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Teknical
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Sun Nov 28, 2004 2:12 am Post subject:
Changing timing chain on 3.0 Vulcan |
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I've noticed when "hitting" the throttle from a standing start, or when
going up a hill in O/D (at low RPMs) the engine makes a "rattling" noise. at
low RPMs not under load (flat pavement), or at idle it's quiet. It only
makes the noise under load at low rpms. I'm guessing this is the timing
chain getting a little sloppy?
The engine is otherwise sound, no oil leaks, mobil-1 synthetic for the past
30,000miles, no smoke, no problems with emission testing.
If it is the timing chain, does anyone have any tips on what to watch out
for when changing it? can it be done with the engine in-car?
(1997 Taurus GL, 3.0 vulcan, ~120,000miles)
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Backyard Mechanic
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Sun Nov 28, 2004 2:27 am Post subject:
Re: Changing timing chain on 3.0 Vulcan |
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Teknical opined in news:jo-dnTPRveUpcDXcRVn-gQ@rogers.com:
| Quote: | I've noticed when "hitting" the throttle from a standing start, or when
going up a hill in O/D (at low RPMs) the engine makes a "rattling"
noise. at low RPMs not under load (flat pavement), or at idle it's
quiet. It only makes the noise under load at low rpms. I'm guessing this
is the timing chain getting a little sloppy?
The engine is otherwise sound, no oil leaks, mobil-1 synthetic for the
past 30,000miles, no smoke, no problems with emission testing.
If it is the timing chain, does anyone have any tips on what to watch
out for when changing it? can it be done with the engine in-car?
(1997 Taurus GL, 3.0 vulcan, ~120,000miles)
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Why would you suspect the timing chain in a nearly bulletproof engine, only
120 K and Mobil 1?..... check the CPS first! |
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Teknical
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Sun Nov 28, 2004 2:30 am Post subject:
Re: Changing timing chain on 3.0 Vulcan |
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"Backyard Mechanic" <pettyfog@Yaywho.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95AEA67B18B27BkMch6d@207.115.63.158...
| Quote: | Teknical opined in news:jo-dnTPRveUpcDXcRVn-gQ@rogers.com:
I've noticed when "hitting" the throttle from a standing start, or when
going up a hill in O/D (at low RPMs) the engine makes a "rattling"
noise. at low RPMs not under load (flat pavement), or at idle it's
quiet. It only makes the noise under load at low rpms. I'm guessing this
is the timing chain getting a little sloppy?
The engine is otherwise sound, no oil leaks, mobil-1 synthetic for the
past 30,000miles, no smoke, no problems with emission testing.
If it is the timing chain, does anyone have any tips on what to watch
out for when changing it? can it be done with the engine in-car?
(1997 Taurus GL, 3.0 vulcan, ~120,000miles)
Why would you suspect the timing chain in a nearly bulletproof engine,
only
120 K and Mobil 1?..... check the CPS first!
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Really? For a internal rattling noise? I'll do that. Thanks
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Backyard Mechanic
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Sun Nov 28, 2004 2:34 am Post subject:
Re: Changing timing chain on 3.0 Vulcan |
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Teknical opined in news:c92dnX1bqs6fbzXcRVn-2g@rogers.com:
| Quote: | "Backyard Mechanic" <pettyfog@Yaywho.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95AEA67B18B27BkMch6d@207.115.63.158...
Teknical opined in news:jo-dnTPRveUpcDXcRVn-gQ@rogers.com:
I've noticed when "hitting" the throttle from a standing start, or when
going up a hill in O/D (at low RPMs) the engine makes a "rattling"
noise. at low RPMs not under load (flat pavement), or at idle it's
quiet. It only makes the noise under load at low rpms. I'm guessing this
is the timing chain getting a little sloppy?
The engine is otherwise sound, no oil leaks, mobil-1 synthetic for the
past 30,000miles, no smoke, no problems with emission testing.
If it is the timing chain, does anyone have any tips on what to watch
out for when changing it? can it be done with the engine in-car?
(1997 Taurus GL, 3.0 vulcan, ~120,000miles)
Why would you suspect the timing chain in a nearly bulletproof engine,
only
120 K and Mobil 1?..... check the CPS first!
Really? For a internal rattling noise? I'll do that. Thanks
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Are you SURE it's not bad pre-ignition? |
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ProudPapa
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Sun Nov 28, 2004 5:42 am Post subject:
Re: Changing timing chain on 3.0 Vulcan |
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"Teknical" <teknical@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:jo-dnTPRveUpcDXcRVn-gQ@rogers.com...
| I've noticed when "hitting" the throttle from a standing start, or when
| going up a hill in O/D (at low RPMs) the engine makes a "rattling" noise.
at
| low RPMs not under load (flat pavement), or at idle it's quiet. It only
| makes the noise under load at low rpms. I'm guessing this is the timing
| chain getting a little sloppy?
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| The engine is otherwise sound, no oil leaks, mobil-1 synthetic for the
past
| 30,000miles, no smoke, no problems with emission testing.
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| If it is the timing chain, does anyone have any tips on what to watch out
| for when changing it? can it be done with the engine in-car?
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| (1997 Taurus GL, 3.0 vulcan, ~120,000miles)
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Take a look see if your exhaust heat shield is loose. |
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Scott M
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Sun Nov 28, 2004 12:41 pm Post subject:
Re: Changing timing chain on 3.0 Vulcan |
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"Backyard Mechanic" <pettyfog@Yaywho.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95AEA7BB91B1ABkMch6d@207.115.63.158...
| Quote: | Teknical opined in news:c92dnX1bqs6fbzXcRVn-2g@rogers.com:
"Backyard Mechanic" <pettyfog@Yaywho.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95AEA67B18B27BkMch6d@207.115.63.158...
Teknical opined in news:jo-dnTPRveUpcDXcRVn-gQ@rogers.com:
I've noticed when "hitting" the throttle from a standing start, or
when
going up a hill in O/D (at low RPMs) the engine makes a "rattling"
noise. at low RPMs not under load (flat pavement), or at idle it's
quiet. It only makes the noise under load at low rpms. I'm guessing
this
is the timing chain getting a little sloppy?
The engine is otherwise sound, no oil leaks, mobil-1 synthetic for the
past 30,000miles, no smoke, no problems with emission testing.
If it is the timing chain, does anyone have any tips on what to watch
out for when changing it? can it be done with the engine in-car?
(1997 Taurus GL, 3.0 vulcan, ~120,000miles)
Why would you suspect the timing chain in a nearly bulletproof engine,
only
120 K and Mobil 1?..... check the CPS first!
Really? For a internal rattling noise? I'll do that. Thanks
Are you SURE it's not bad pre-ignition?
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Thats what I was thinking, pinging. It sounds like a rattle and does it
under load at low RPMs usually. Clean your MAF and change the fuel filter
and see if that helps.
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ledpeddle
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Sun Nov 28, 2004 8:13 pm Post subject:
Re: Changing timing chain on 3.0 Vulcan |
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"ProudPapa" <feesa@sbd.net> wrote in message
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"Teknical" <teknical@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:jo-dnTPRveUpcDXcRVn-gQ@rogers.com...
| I've noticed when "hitting" the throttle from a standing start, or when
| going up a hill in O/D (at low RPMs) the engine makes a "rattling"
noise.
at
| low RPMs not under load (flat pavement), or at idle it's quiet. It only
| makes the noise under load at low rpms. I'm guessing this is the timing
| chain getting a little sloppy?
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| The engine is otherwise sound, no oil leaks, mobil-1 synthetic for the
past
| 30,000miles, no smoke, no problems with emission testing.
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| If it is the timing chain, does anyone have any tips on what to watch
out
| for when changing it? can it be done with the engine in-car?
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| (1997 Taurus GL, 3.0 vulcan, ~120,000miles)
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Take a look see if your exhaust heat shield is loose.
Scott is right you need to clean the mass air unit. I have all Fords and |
this is a common problem they get dirty and the engine computer has to
adjust and pinging is what happens. Clean it with computer alcahol and swap
be very careful when doing this. you'll notice a big difference in the
motor. |
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Bill 2
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Posted:
Sun Nov 28, 2004 10:52 pm Post subject:
Re: Changing timing chain on 3.0 Vulcan |
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"Scott M" <no@no.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Are you SURE it's not bad pre-ignition?
Thats what I was thinking, pinging. It sounds like a rattle and does it
under load at low RPMs usually. Clean your MAF and change the fuel filter
and see if that helps.
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I'd agree with the suggestion that it's pre-ignition. I had a problem with
pinging in my Taurus, and it sounded very much as the OP described, being a
"rattling under load". |
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