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Pierre-Marc Bonneau
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Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 4:14 am    Post subject: E39/528i/Manual/98 - Engine accelerates by itself - idle rev Reply with quote

Hi;

my 1998 528i has started to do some "vroom vroom" when hot, since a month.
When accelerating after a few minutes of engine warm-up, it seems to "fail"
and just does some vroom...vroom (changing from -100rpm to +100rpm) and then
goes on.

I went to pick it up from the paint shop this morning (it's been sitting
there for two weeks), my battery was dead so I had to be jumpstarted by the
mechanic's rig; All went ok until after 20 minutes of riding.
It started to do does "vroom vroom" things; and when going on a stop or red
lite, idled around 5000 to 6000 rpm. And now, everytime it's hot, (well
normal running temp) it does that, there is no way of getting around it.

Anyone has an idea ?

pmb

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Kyle and Lori Greene
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Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 5:13 am    Post subject: Re: E39/528i/Manual/98 - Engine accelerates by itself - idle Reply with quote

"Pierre-Marc Bonneau" <pbonneau@compuproapm.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
Hi;

my 1998 528i has started to do some "vroom vroom" when hot, since a month.
When accelerating after a few minutes of engine warm-up, it seems to
"fail"
and just does some vroom...vroom (changing from -100rpm to +100rpm) and
then
goes on.

I went to pick it up from the paint shop this morning (it's been sitting
there for two weeks), my battery was dead so I had to be jumpstarted by
the
mechanic's rig; All went ok until after 20 minutes of riding.
It started to do does "vroom vroom" things; and when going on a stop or
red
lite, idled around 5000 to 6000 rpm. And now, everytime it's hot, (well
normal running temp) it does that, there is no way of getting around it.

Anyone has an idea ?

pmb


Could you clarify a few things for us? For instance, what do you mean by "
Does some vroom-vroom"? When you say "changing from -100rpm to +100rpm" I
assume you mean the swing in RPM as 100RPM is pretty slow and I'm not sure
what would happen if you got the engine to do -100RPM. Some sort of time
warp perhaps ;-) Also, are you sure that your idle speed is 5000 to 6000
RPM? Normal is usually around 600-700RPM.

Kyle.
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Pierre-Marc Bonneau
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Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 5:41 am    Post subject: Re: E39/528i/Manual/98 - Engine accelerates by itself - idle Reply with quote

Thanks for the concern;

By vroom vroom I mean that the engines burps a little bit, let's say I'm
driving at 3000 rpm; well it goes down to 2900 and then up to 3100 a couple
of times before accelerating (happens only when I try to accelerate);

and yes, id idles at 5000-6000RPM (would probably go higher but I don't have
the courage to let it go up there, I usually turn it off when I'm at 6000)

As you can see, because of this last problem the car is quite unusable in a
safe fashion; and probably those two problems are linked.

thanx!

pmb
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"Pierre-Marc Bonneau" <pbonneau@compuproapm.com> wrote in message
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Hi;

my 1998 528i has started to do some "vroom vroom" when hot, since a
month.
When accelerating after a few minutes of engine warm-up, it seems to
"fail"
and just does some vroom...vroom (changing from -100rpm to +100rpm) and
then
goes on.

I went to pick it up from the paint shop this morning (it's been sitting
there for two weeks), my battery was dead so I had to be jumpstarted by
the
mechanic's rig; All went ok until after 20 minutes of riding.
It started to do does "vroom vroom" things; and when going on a stop or
red
lite, idled around 5000 to 6000 rpm. And now, everytime it's hot, (well
normal running temp) it does that, there is no way of getting around it.

Anyone has an idea ?

pmb


Could you clarify a few things for us? For instance, what do you mean by
"
Does some vroom-vroom"? When you say "changing from -100rpm to +100rpm" I
assume you mean the swing in RPM as 100RPM is pretty slow and I'm not sure
what would happen if you got the engine to do -100RPM. Some sort of time
warp perhaps ;-) Also, are you sure that your idle speed is 5000 to 6000
RPM? Normal is usually around 600-700RPM.

Kyle.



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Michael Low
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Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 5:41 am    Post subject: Re: E39/528i/Manual/98 - Engine accelerates by itself - idle Reply with quote

"Pierre-Marc Bonneau" <pbonneau@compuproapm.com> wrote in message news:<6T7qd.85713$Le1.1796347@news20.bellglobal.com>...
Quote:
Hi;

my 1998 528i has started to do some "vroom vroom" when hot, since a month.
When accelerating after a few minutes of engine warm-up, it seems to "fail"
and just does some vroom...vroom (changing from -100rpm to +100rpm) and then
goes on.

I went to pick it up from the paint shop this morning (it's been sitting
there for two weeks), my battery was dead so I had to be jumpstarted by the
mechanic's rig; All went ok until after 20 minutes of riding.
It started to do does "vroom vroom" things; and when going on a stop or red
lite, idled around 5000 to 6000 rpm. And now, everytime it's hot, (well
normal running temp) it does that, there is no way of getting around it.

Anyone has an idea ?



Was it running fine before it went to the paintshop? How long have you had the car?


Michael

> pmb
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Aldo Larrabiata
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Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 10:46 pm    Post subject: Re: E39/528i/Manual/98 - Engine accelerates by itself - idle Reply with quote

Drunk ?
Do paint solvents contain alchool ?
Troll ?

"Michael Low" <metrocomm@ca.inter.net> a écrit dans le message news:
7bb4f8b6.0411271848.5de69afd@posting.google.com...
Quote:
"Pierre-Marc Bonneau" <pbonneau@compuproapm.com> wrote in message
news:<6T7qd.85713$Le1.1796347@news20.bellglobal.com>...
Hi;

my 1998 528i has started to do some "vroom vroom" when hot, since a
month.
When accelerating after a few minutes of engine warm-up, it seems to
"fail"
and just does some vroom...vroom (changing from -100rpm to +100rpm) and
then
goes on.

I went to pick it up from the paint shop this morning (it's been sitting
there for two weeks), my battery was dead so I had to be jumpstarted by
the
mechanic's rig; All went ok until after 20 minutes of riding.
It started to do does "vroom vroom" things; and when going on a stop or
red
lite, idled around 5000 to 6000 rpm. And now, everytime it's hot, (well
normal running temp) it does that, there is no way of getting around it.

Anyone has an idea ?



Was it running fine before it went to the paintshop? How long have you
had the car?


Michael

pmb
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Pierre-Marc Bonneau
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Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 10:54 pm    Post subject: Re: E39/528i/Manual/98 - Engine accelerates by itself - idle Reply with quote

It was only doing the "vroom vroom" part for about a month prior to go
paintshopping;

I've had it for 3 years and it has always runned perfect

pmb

"Aldo Larrabiata" <duschmoll@racer.com> wrote in message
news:41aa0ed8$0$31708$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr...
Quote:
Drunk ?
Do paint solvents contain alchool ?
Troll ?

"Michael Low" <metrocomm@ca.inter.net> a écrit dans le message news:
7bb4f8b6.0411271848.5de69afd@posting.google.com...
"Pierre-Marc Bonneau" <pbonneau@compuproapm.com> wrote in message
news:<6T7qd.85713$Le1.1796347@news20.bellglobal.com>...
Hi;

my 1998 528i has started to do some "vroom vroom" when hot, since a
month.
When accelerating after a few minutes of engine warm-up, it seems to
"fail"
and just does some vroom...vroom (changing from -100rpm to +100rpm)
and
then
goes on.

I went to pick it up from the paint shop this morning (it's been
sitting
there for two weeks), my battery was dead so I had to be jumpstarted
by
the
mechanic's rig; All went ok until after 20 minutes of riding.
It started to do does "vroom vroom" things; and when going on a stop
or
red
lite, idled around 5000 to 6000 rpm. And now, everytime it's hot,
(well
normal running temp) it does that, there is no way of getting around
it.

Anyone has an idea ?



Was it running fine before it went to the paintshop? How long have you
had the car?


Michael

pmb

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Kyle and Lori Greene
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Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 12:29 am    Post subject: Re: E39/528i/Manual/98 - Engine accelerates by itself - idle Reply with quote

"Pierre-Marc Bonneau" <pbonneau@compuproapm.com> wrote in message
news:Shoqd.633$kI6.112173@news20.bellglobal.com...
Quote:
It was only doing the "vroom vroom" part for about a month prior to go
paintshopping;

I've had it for 3 years and it has always runned perfect

pmb

"Aldo Larrabiata" <duschmoll@racer.com> wrote in message
news:41aa0ed8$0$31708$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr...
Drunk ?
Do paint solvents contain alchool ?
Troll ?

"Michael Low" <metrocomm@ca.inter.net> a écrit dans le message news:
7bb4f8b6.0411271848.5de69afd@posting.google.com...
"Pierre-Marc Bonneau" <pbonneau@compuproapm.com> wrote in message
news:<6T7qd.85713$Le1.1796347@news20.bellglobal.com>...
Hi;

my 1998 528i has started to do some "vroom vroom" when hot, since a
month.
When accelerating after a few minutes of engine warm-up, it seems to
"fail"
and just does some vroom...vroom (changing from -100rpm to +100rpm)
and
then
goes on.

I went to pick it up from the paint shop this morning (it's been
sitting
there for two weeks), my battery was dead so I had to be jumpstarted
by
the
mechanic's rig; All went ok until after 20 minutes of riding.
It started to do does "vroom vroom" things; and when going on a stop
or
red
lite, idled around 5000 to 6000 rpm. And now, everytime it's hot,
(well
normal running temp) it does that, there is no way of getting around
it.

Anyone has an idea ?



Was it running fine before it went to the paintshop? How long have you
had the car?


Michael

pmb


When its idling at 5000 and you engage 1st gear to drive away, what happens
to the engine speed? Does it do this as soon as the clutch is pushed, only
in neutral or both?

Kyle.
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Pierre-Marc Bonneau
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Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 5:42 am    Post subject: Re: E39/528i/Manual/98 - Engine accelerates by itself - idle Reply with quote

it goes to 5000 (and going on...) even when engaged in a gear;
which makes it difficult to drive away without drawing too much attention

My thought is on the obd2 or something computer-like like that; but might
not be

pmb

"Kyle and Lori Greene" <kylogreene1@tampabay1.rr1.com> wrote in message
news:iGpqd.76240$8G4.74693@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
Quote:

"Pierre-Marc Bonneau" <pbonneau@compuproapm.com> wrote in message
news:Shoqd.633$kI6.112173@news20.bellglobal.com...
It was only doing the "vroom vroom" part for about a month prior to go
paintshopping;

I've had it for 3 years and it has always runned perfect

pmb

"Aldo Larrabiata" <duschmoll@racer.com> wrote in message
news:41aa0ed8$0$31708$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr...
Drunk ?
Do paint solvents contain alchool ?
Troll ?

"Michael Low" <metrocomm@ca.inter.net> a écrit dans le message news:
7bb4f8b6.0411271848.5de69afd@posting.google.com...
"Pierre-Marc Bonneau" <pbonneau@compuproapm.com> wrote in message
news:<6T7qd.85713$Le1.1796347@news20.bellglobal.com>...
Hi;

my 1998 528i has started to do some "vroom vroom" when hot, since a
month.
When accelerating after a few minutes of engine warm-up, it seems
to
"fail"
and just does some vroom...vroom (changing from -100rpm to +100rpm)
and
then
goes on.

I went to pick it up from the paint shop this morning (it's been
sitting
there for two weeks), my battery was dead so I had to be
jumpstarted
by
the
mechanic's rig; All went ok until after 20 minutes of riding.
It started to do does "vroom vroom" things; and when going on a
stop
or
red
lite, idled around 5000 to 6000 rpm. And now, everytime it's hot,
(well
normal running temp) it does that, there is no way of getting
around
it.

Anyone has an idea ?



Was it running fine before it went to the paintshop? How long have
you
had the car?


Michael

pmb


When its idling at 5000 and you engage 1st gear to drive away, what
happens
to the engine speed? Does it do this as soon as the clutch is pushed,
only
in neutral or both?

Kyle.

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Kyle and Lori Greene
Guest





Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 2:19 pm    Post subject: Re: E39/528i/Manual/98 - Engine accelerates by itself - idle Reply with quote

"Pierre-Marc Bonneau" <pbonneau@compuproapm.com> wrote in message
news:lsuqd.4719$Ad3.304106@news20.bellglobal.com...
Quote:
it goes to 5000 (and going on...) even when engaged in a gear;
which makes it difficult to drive away without drawing too much attention

My thought is on the obd2 or something computer-like like that; but might
not be

pmb

"Kyle and Lori Greene" <kylogreene1@tampabay1.rr1.com> wrote in message
news:iGpqd.76240$8G4.74693@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...

"Pierre-Marc Bonneau" <pbonneau@compuproapm.com> wrote in message
news:Shoqd.633$kI6.112173@news20.bellglobal.com...
It was only doing the "vroom vroom" part for about a month prior to go
paintshopping;

I've had it for 3 years and it has always runned perfect

pmb

"Aldo Larrabiata" <duschmoll@racer.com> wrote in message
news:41aa0ed8$0$31708$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr...
Drunk ?
Do paint solvents contain alchool ?
Troll ?

"Michael Low" <metrocomm@ca.inter.net> a écrit dans le message news:
7bb4f8b6.0411271848.5de69afd@posting.google.com...
"Pierre-Marc Bonneau" <pbonneau@compuproapm.com> wrote in message
news:<6T7qd.85713$Le1.1796347@news20.bellglobal.com>...
Hi;

my 1998 528i has started to do some "vroom vroom" when hot, since
a
month.
When accelerating after a few minutes of engine warm-up, it seems
to
"fail"
and just does some vroom...vroom (changing from -100rpm to
+100rpm)
and
then
goes on.

I went to pick it up from the paint shop this morning (it's been
sitting
there for two weeks), my battery was dead so I had to be
jumpstarted
by
the
mechanic's rig; All went ok until after 20 minutes of riding.
It started to do does "vroom vroom" things; and when going on a
stop
or
red
lite, idled around 5000 to 6000 rpm. And now, everytime it's hot,
(well
normal running temp) it does that, there is no way of getting
around
it.

Anyone has an idea ?



Was it running fine before it went to the paintshop? How long have
you
had the car?


Michael

pmb


When its idling at 5000 and you engage 1st gear to drive away, what
happens
to the engine speed? Does it do this as soon as the clutch is pushed,
only
in neutral or both?

Kyle.



It sounds like the throttle is stuck open. Also check around the foot
pedal. Make sure the carpet or anything else is not stuck on or behind it.

Kyle.
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Pierre-Marc Bonneau
Guest





Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 3:01 am    Post subject: Re: E39/528i/Manual/98 - Engine accelerates by itself - idle Reply with quote

Thanks!

I brought it this morning to my dealer (Canbec in MTL,qc), and the mechanic
just told me the throttle assembly needed a severe clean, it that it might
be all. But, he let undergo that this might not be it...

Still, you aimed good thanks!
Hopes this will work though (2 hours of labor @90+...)!

pmb

"Kyle and Lori Greene" <kylogreene1@tampabay1.rr1.com> wrote in message
news:BQBqd.99338$6w6.29158@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
Quote:

"Pierre-Marc Bonneau" <pbonneau@compuproapm.com> wrote in message
news:lsuqd.4719$Ad3.304106@news20.bellglobal.com...
it goes to 5000 (and going on...) even when engaged in a gear;
which makes it difficult to drive away without drawing too much
attention

My thought is on the obd2 or something computer-like like that; but
might
not be

pmb

"Kyle and Lori Greene" <kylogreene1@tampabay1.rr1.com> wrote in message
news:iGpqd.76240$8G4.74693@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...

"Pierre-Marc Bonneau" <pbonneau@compuproapm.com> wrote in message
news:Shoqd.633$kI6.112173@news20.bellglobal.com...
It was only doing the "vroom vroom" part for about a month prior to
go
paintshopping;

I've had it for 3 years and it has always runned perfect

pmb

"Aldo Larrabiata" <duschmoll@racer.com> wrote in message
news:41aa0ed8$0$31708$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr...
Drunk ?
Do paint solvents contain alchool ?
Troll ?

"Michael Low" <metrocomm@ca.inter.net> a écrit dans le message news:
7bb4f8b6.0411271848.5de69afd@posting.google.com...
"Pierre-Marc Bonneau" <pbonneau@compuproapm.com> wrote in message
news:<6T7qd.85713$Le1.1796347@news20.bellglobal.com>...
Hi;

my 1998 528i has started to do some "vroom vroom" when hot,
since
a
month.
When accelerating after a few minutes of engine warm-up, it
seems
to
"fail"
and just does some vroom...vroom (changing from -100rpm to
+100rpm)
and
then
goes on.

I went to pick it up from the paint shop this morning (it's been
sitting
there for two weeks), my battery was dead so I had to be
jumpstarted
by
the
mechanic's rig; All went ok until after 20 minutes of riding.
It started to do does "vroom vroom" things; and when going on a
stop
or
red
lite, idled around 5000 to 6000 rpm. And now, everytime it's
hot,
(well
normal running temp) it does that, there is no way of getting
around
it.

Anyone has an idea ?



Was it running fine before it went to the paintshop? How long
have
you
had the car?


Michael

pmb


When its idling at 5000 and you engage 1st gear to drive away, what
happens
to the engine speed? Does it do this as soon as the clutch is pushed,
only
in neutral or both?

Kyle.



It sounds like the throttle is stuck open. Also check around the foot
pedal. Make sure the carpet or anything else is not stuck on or behind
it.

Kyle.

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Pierre-Marc Bonneau
Guest





Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 12:34 am    Post subject: Re: E39/528i/Manual/98 - Engine accelerates by itself - idle Reply with quote

It was indeed only dirt (caused by bad combustion and bad mix of oil/gas),
in the throttle body;

a thorough cleaning by BMW mechanics has proved me once again that bimmers
are wonderful :)
I'm in love with my car, once again...!

thank you all!

pmb

"Pierre-Marc Bonneau" <pbonneau@compuproapm.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
Thanks!

I brought it this morning to my dealer (Canbec in MTL,qc), and the
mechanic
just told me the throttle assembly needed a severe clean, it that it might
be all. But, he let undergo that this might not be it...

Still, you aimed good thanks!
Hopes this will work though (2 hours of labor @90+...)!

pmb

"Kyle and Lori Greene" <kylogreene1@tampabay1.rr1.com> wrote in message
news:BQBqd.99338$6w6.29158@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...

"Pierre-Marc Bonneau" <pbonneau@compuproapm.com> wrote in message
news:lsuqd.4719$Ad3.304106@news20.bellglobal.com...
it goes to 5000 (and going on...) even when engaged in a gear;
which makes it difficult to drive away without drawing too much
attention

My thought is on the obd2 or something computer-like like that; but
might
not be

pmb

"Kyle and Lori Greene" <kylogreene1@tampabay1.rr1.com> wrote in
message
news:iGpqd.76240$8G4.74693@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...

"Pierre-Marc Bonneau" <pbonneau@compuproapm.com> wrote in message
news:Shoqd.633$kI6.112173@news20.bellglobal.com...
It was only doing the "vroom vroom" part for about a month prior to
go
paintshopping;

I've had it for 3 years and it has always runned perfect

pmb

"Aldo Larrabiata" <duschmoll@racer.com> wrote in message
news:41aa0ed8$0$31708$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr...
Drunk ?
Do paint solvents contain alchool ?
Troll ?

"Michael Low" <metrocomm@ca.inter.net> a écrit dans le message
news:
7bb4f8b6.0411271848.5de69afd@posting.google.com...
"Pierre-Marc Bonneau" <pbonneau@compuproapm.com> wrote in
message
news:<6T7qd.85713$Le1.1796347@news20.bellglobal.com>...
Hi;

my 1998 528i has started to do some "vroom vroom" when hot,
since
a
month.
When accelerating after a few minutes of engine warm-up, it
seems
to
"fail"
and just does some vroom...vroom (changing from -100rpm to
+100rpm)
and
then
goes on.

I went to pick it up from the paint shop this morning (it's
been
sitting
there for two weeks), my battery was dead so I had to be
jumpstarted
by
the
mechanic's rig; All went ok until after 20 minutes of riding.
It started to do does "vroom vroom" things; and when going on
a
stop
or
red
lite, idled around 5000 to 6000 rpm. And now, everytime it's
hot,
(well
normal running temp) it does that, there is no way of getting
around
it.

Anyone has an idea ?



Was it running fine before it went to the paintshop? How long
have
you
had the car?


Michael

pmb


When its idling at 5000 and you engage 1st gear to drive away, what
happens
to the engine speed? Does it do this as soon as the clutch is
pushed,
only
in neutral or both?

Kyle.



It sounds like the throttle is stuck open. Also check around the foot
pedal. Make sure the carpet or anything else is not stuck on or behind
it.

Kyle.



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sailor
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Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 5:40 am    Post subject: Re: E39/528i/Manual/98 - Engine accelerates by itself - idle Reply with quote

Glad you got your problem solved I thought you might have picked up an Audi
by mistake.

Sailor
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