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Alex Halikias
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 8:01 am Post subject:
Advice on 993 v. 996 or 997 |
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I have a nice 1997 993 cab with 50K miles. Only put 3-4K miles a year on
the car, but I've got the get-a-new-car bug lately. Thinking about getting
a more recent model, possibly a 2002-2004 996. Also considering waiting
until next year to aim for the 997 cabs. I can afford the upgrade, but I'm
pretty cost-conscious, so doing well in negotiation and buy/sell timing
matters to me. Any good advice out there?
Alex
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Jim Keenan
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 8:54 pm Post subject:
Re: Advice on 993 v. 996 or 997 |
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Alex Halikias wrote:
| Quote: | I have a nice 1997 993 cab with 50K miles. Only put 3-4K miles a year on
the car, but I've got the get-a-new-car bug lately. Thinking about getting
a more recent model, possibly a 2002-2004 996. Also considering waiting
until next year to aim for the 997 cabs. I can afford the upgrade, but I'm
pretty cost-conscious, so doing well in negotiation and buy/sell timing
matters to me. Any good advice out there?
Alex
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I own a 2002 Coupe. If you opt for a 996, the 2002 and later model years
are the way to go. If you're not wedded to the idea of a cab, a 40th
Anniversary 996 is a nice car - it has the 345 HP engine and some other
nice parts. If you're leaning toward a cab and don't object to AWD, a
996 C4S is a handsome car.
Per standard Porsche practice, the 997 is an objective improvement over
the 996, although the greatest gains are observed in the Carrera S.
Engine output wise, the standard 997 has a 3.6 and is up 5 HP from the
3.6 on 2002 and later 996s, while the Carrera S gets the 3.8 and 35 more
HP. The Carrera S also gets the Porsche Active Suspension Management
system as standard equipment.
If I were leaving my 996 it would only be for the Carrera S, but going
from a 993 to a 996 or 997 gives you more leeway, since either is going
to feature fairly significant changes from the 993. The 997 will
probably feel more like your 993 handling-wise than a 996, if the car
magazine reports are accurate.......
Happy hunting! |
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Weekend Guru
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Wed Feb 09, 2005 4:01 am Post subject:
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I think Jim has hit it dead on target. If you can afford it, a 997-S is the
way to go. No question. Either way (996-997)...you're going to get A/C
that really works and much improved creature comforts to go along with the
obvious technical upgrades.
"Alex Halikias" <ahalikias@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I have a nice 1997 993 cab with 50K miles. Only put 3-4K miles a year on
the car, but I've got the get-a-new-car bug lately. Thinking about getting
a more recent model, possibly a 2002-2004 996. Also considering waiting
until next year to aim for the 997 cabs. I can afford the upgrade, but I'm
pretty cost-conscious, so doing well in negotiation and buy/sell timing
matters to me. Any good advice out there?
Alex
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Alex Halikias
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Wed Feb 09, 2005 7:21 pm Post subject:
Re: Advice on 993 v. 996 or 997 |
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"Jim Keenan" <jtk3@cox.net> wrote in message
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Alex Halikias wrote:
I have a nice 1997 993 cab with 50K miles. Only put 3-4K miles a year on
the car, but I've got the get-a-new-car bug lately. Thinking about
getting a more recent model, possibly a 2002-2004 996. Also considering
waiting until next year to aim for the 997 cabs. I can afford the
upgrade, but I'm pretty cost-conscious, so doing well in negotiation and
buy/sell timing matters to me. Any good advice out there?
Alex
I own a 2002 Coupe. If you opt for a 996, the 2002 and later model years
are the way to go. If you're not wedded to the idea of a cab, a 40th
Anniversary 996 is a nice car - it has the 345 HP engine and some other
nice parts. If you're leaning toward a cab and don't object to AWD, a 996
C4S is a handsome car.
Per standard Porsche practice, the 997 is an objective improvement over
the 996, although the greatest gains are observed in the Carrera S. Engine
output wise, the standard 997 has a 3.6 and is up 5 HP from the 3.6 on
2002 and later 996s, while the Carrera S gets the 3.8 and 35 more HP. The
Carrera S also gets the Porsche Active Suspension Management system as
standard equipment.
If I were leaving my 996 it would only be for the Carrera S, but going
from a 993 to a 996 or 997 gives you more leeway, since either is going to
feature fairly significant changes from the 993. The 997 will probably
feel more like your 993 handling-wise than a 996, if the car magazine
reports are accurate.......
Happy hunting!
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Thanks Jim, good information. I completely agree with your C4S comments
which would be my #1 choice, but they are scarce and steeply priced, so
probably not in my range. Any thoughts on resale value of the 996's? The
993 seems to be holding its value very well, even appreciate in the last
year or so. Would love to know what its future value curve looks like!! My
concern with the 996's is that they are many out there and feel indistinct,
so next upgrade will be costly.
Alex |
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Jim Keenan
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Wed Feb 09, 2005 8:59 pm Post subject:
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Alex Halikias wrote:
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Thanks Jim, good information. I completely agree with your C4S comments
which would be my #1 choice, but they are scarce and steeply priced, so
probably not in my range. Any thoughts on resale value of the 996's? The
993 seems to be holding its value very well, even appreciate in the last
year or so. Would love to know what its future value curve looks like!! My
concern with the 996's is that they are many out there and feel indistinct,
so next upgrade will be costly.
Alex
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I'm not the guy to speak authoritatively about resale values since we
ordered a loaded car from the factory, planning to keep her a long time.
I simply haven't been paying attention.
I would think the introduction of the 997 generally won't help 996
values, because it follows the typical Porsche practice of improving the
product and a lot of folks have to have the latest and greatest. The
base 997 and the standard 2002+ 996 are 5 HP apart and the 997 of course
has an updated interior, exterior, etc. For someone who would be content
with the base 997, a used 2002+ 996 offers pretty similar performance.
The folks who have to have the Carrera S probably won't be interested.
The 996s that might do well are the ones with the 345 HP engines - the
40th anniversary cars and any others with the 345 HP option which was
available on U.S. cars starting with the 2003 model year. These cars are
giving up 10 HP and some torque to the 997 Carrera S, but they're a
little lighter.
The 993 holds up well because it is the best and last of the air cooled
911 family.
The 2002+ 996 is a heck of a car - 0 to 60 MPH in under five seconds,
top speed well over 170, lateral acceleration over .9 G with standard
suspension. The earlier 996 isn't that far off these figures, and both
Porsche and the aftermarket offer suspension modifications that can make
the cars handle just about any way you'd like. The 996 doesn't lend
itself to significant horsepower gains through bolt-on modifocations,
however.
If you haven't already, try visiting Rennlist.com. There are forums
there for various Porsche models and it can be a good source of info on
resale, etc. |
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E Brown
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Sun Feb 20, 2005 1:12 am Post subject:
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On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 17:33:59 GMT, Tom Tweed <ttweed@san.rr.com> wrote:
There are more trouble posts for those cars than the 993s, which are
closing in on 10 years old. A Christmas bonus put me within spitting
distance of buying a 996, but I've had second thoughts...
Emanuel
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Alex Halikias
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Wed Feb 23, 2005 8:00 am Post subject:
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"Tom Tweed" <ttweed@san.rr.com> wrote in message
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Thanks to everyone for their suggestions. I bought a 2004 996 cab with 3K
miles on it and, so far, I love it!
Alex |
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Jim Keenan
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Thu Feb 24, 2005 2:24 am Post subject:
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E Brown wrote:
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Heck, most any thread in the 996/997 will put you off buying one.
There are more trouble posts for those cars than the 993s, which are
closing in on 10 years old. A Christmas bonus put me within spitting
distance of buying a 996, but I've had second thoughts...
Emanuel
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For every post with a gripe about the 996, there's a bunch of us 996
owners just quietly enjoying the heck out of our troublefree cars........ |
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Mike Frith
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Thu Feb 24, 2005 7:58 am Post subject:
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Alex Halikias wrote:
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Thanks to everyone for their suggestions. I bought a 2004 996 cab with 3K
miles on it and, so far, I love it!
Alex
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Congratulations Alex!
Hope you have years of trouble free driving!
Mike |
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E Brown
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Thu Feb 24, 2005 4:14 pm Post subject:
Re: Advice on 993 v. 996 or 997 |
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On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 13:24:27 -0800, Jim Keenan <jtk3@cox.net> wrote:
| Quote: | For every post with a gripe about the 996, there's a bunch of us 996
owners just quietly enjoying the heck out of our troublefree cars
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Which is part of the problem...
E
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Don.
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Fri Feb 25, 2005 4:40 am Post subject:
Re: Advice on 993 v. 996 or 997 |
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E Brown wrote:
| Quote: | On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 13:24:27 -0800, Jim Keenan <jtk3@cox.net> wrote:
For every post with a gripe about the 996, there's a bunch of us 996
owners just quietly enjoying the heck out of our troublefree cars
Which is part of the problem...
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It seems every Porsche (356/912/911) I've ever owned,from 1965 to 2001, was a
"problem" car. The main reason was because I loved to play mechanic when I'm
not one! THAT is the MAIN problem! :-)
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