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Yvan
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Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 6:46 pm    Post subject: Oil cap Reply with quote

While I was trying to solve my idle - ISV problems, I removed oil cap to
see if I have vacuum leak, and it looks like this:

http://us.f3.yahoofs.com/users/41b0e1b7z17770e36/5719/__sr_/73f4.jpg?phRivuBBW4VfwRBN

I changed oil one month ago - some 500 miles (Castrol GTX - mineral
oil). All this time car is driven on short distances (2 - 2.5 miles) to
work and back.

It never looked like this. I am going to drive it on a highway, for some
200 miles to see if it will go away. Is it safe? Is it only deposit
cosed by short distance driving, or am I facing some major reprise?

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Jesper Giovanni
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Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 10:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Oil cap Reply with quote

"Yvan" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:20041211144605.09b7ac3b@iva.imperl.com...
Quote:
While I was trying to solve my idle - ISV problems, I removed oil cap to
see if I have vacuum leak, and it looks like this:

http://us.f3.yahoofs.com/users/41b0e1b7z17770e36/5719/__sr_/73f4.jpg?phRivuBBW4VfwRBN

The link can´t be found.
But...i´m curious!...so please fix it :o)


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Yvan
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Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 11:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Oil cap Reply with quote

Nedavno Jesper Giovanni pise:

| The link can´t be found.
| But...i´m curious!...so please fix it :o)

Sory, I just tried Yahoo's photos service. Try this link, and click on
photo. Hope it works now :-)

http://photos.yahoo.com/perlica




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Richard Wall
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Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 11:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Oil cap Reply with quote

Looks to me as if you have water getting into the oil. Head gasket ?? Not
a good sign
Regards Richard
"Yvan" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:20041211144605.09b7ac3b@iva.imperl.com...
Quote:
While I was trying to solve my idle - ISV problems, I removed oil cap to
see if I have vacuum leak, and it looks like this:

http://us.f3.yahoofs.com/users/41b0e1b7z17770e36/5719/__sr_/73f4.jpg?phRivuBBW4VfwRBN

I changed oil one month ago - some 500 miles (Castrol GTX - mineral
oil). All this time car is driven on short distances (2 - 2.5 miles) to
work and back.

It never looked like this. I am going to drive it on a highway, for some
200 miles to see if it will go away. Is it safe? Is it only deposit
cosed by short distance driving, or am I facing some major reprise?

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Alec
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 12:28 am    Post subject: Re: Oil cap Reply with quote

That's "mayonnaise" caused by water in the oil. Probably because of the very
short trips your are making in cold weather. Buy yourself a bike .
Rgds
Alec


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Tony
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 12:32 am    Post subject: Re: Oil cap Reply with quote

Coolant, probably, but Ivan is running dual fuel (gasoline / LP ) so it could be
a side effect of the LP. Seems to me that burning LP generates water as a
by-product of combusion. This is nothing more than a guess to give Ivan another
possibility.

Tony
'91 100q

Richard Wall wrote:
Quote:
Looks to me as if you have water getting into the oil. Head gasket ?? Not
a good sign
Regards Richard
"Yvan" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:20041211144605.09b7ac3b@iva.imperl.com...

While I was trying to solve my idle - ISV problems, I removed oil cap to
see if I have vacuum leak, and it looks like this:

http://us.f3.yahoofs.com/users/41b0e1b7z17770e36/5719/__sr_/73f4.jpg?phRivuBBW4VfwRBN

I changed oil one month ago - some 500 miles (Castrol GTX - mineral
oil). All this time car is driven on short distances (2 - 2.5 miles) to
work and back.

It never looked like this. I am going to drive it on a highway, for some
200 miles to see if it will go away. Is it safe? Is it only deposit
cosed by short distance driving, or am I facing some major reprise?

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Yvan
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 12:57 am    Post subject: Re: Oil cap Reply with quote

Nedavno Tony pise:

| Coolant, probably, but Ivan is running dual fuel (gasoline / LP ) so
| it could be a side effect of the LP. Seems to me that burning LP
| generates water as a by-product of combusion. This is nothing more
| than a guess to give Ivan another possibility.

I am going to check coolant level. I was told that burning LPG generates
water, and that exost silencers will have to be changed more often. But
how would that wather find it's way into oil?

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Glenn Spence
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 5:40 am    Post subject: Re: Oil cap Reply with quote

My guess is short trips and motor not up to temperature long enough to
release the water. The 200 mile ride might be overdoing it but a 20 to 50
mile one will tell the story. If it's gone after the ride then it's just
the short trips.
Skippy
"Tony" <tonyjnospam@nospamvisi.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
Coolant, probably, but Ivan is running dual fuel (gasoline / LP ) so it
could be a side effect of the LP. Seems to me that burning LP generates
water as a by-product of combusion. This is nothing more than a guess to
give Ivan another possibility.

Tony
'91 100q

Richard Wall wrote:
Looks to me as if you have water getting into the oil. Head gasket ??
Not a good sign
Regards Richard
"Yvan" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:20041211144605.09b7ac3b@iva.imperl.com...

While I was trying to solve my idle - ISV problems, I removed oil cap to
see if I have vacuum leak, and it looks like this:

http://us.f3.yahoofs.com/users/41b0e1b7z17770e36/5719/__sr_/73f4.jpg?phRivuBBW4VfwRBN

I changed oil one month ago - some 500 miles (Castrol GTX - mineral
oil). All this time car is driven on short distances (2 - 2.5 miles) to
work and back.

It never looked like this. I am going to drive it on a highway, for some
200 miles to see if it will go away. Is it safe? Is it only deposit
cosed by short distance driving, or am I facing some major reprise?

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KWS
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 5:40 am    Post subject: Re: Oil cap Reply with quote

Looks to me that someone put lithium grease on the cap thread so it would
come off easier. Suggest you wipe this crap off and drive the car for a day
or so; see if it recurs. Also, look into the hole at the lubricant on the
lifters; does it look just like the stuff on the cap?

Ken

"Tony" <tonyjnospam@nospamvisi.com> wrote in message
news:41bb4b36$0$9728$a1866201@visi.com...
Quote:
Coolant, probably, but Ivan is running dual fuel (gasoline / LP ) so it
could be
a side effect of the LP. Seems to me that burning LP generates water as a
by-product of combusion. This is nothing more than a guess to give Ivan
another
possibility.

Tony
'91 100q

Richard Wall wrote:
Looks to me as if you have water getting into the oil. Head gasket ??
Not
a good sign
Regards Richard
"Yvan" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:20041211144605.09b7ac3b@iva.imperl.com...

While I was trying to solve my idle - ISV problems, I removed oil cap to
see if I have vacuum leak, and it looks like this:


http://us.f3.yahoofs.com/users/41b0e1b7z17770e36/5719/__sr_/73f4.jpg?phRiv
uBBW4VfwRBN

I changed oil one month ago - some 500 miles (Castrol GTX - mineral
oil). All this time car is driven on short distances (2 - 2.5 miles) to
work and back.

It never looked like this. I am going to drive it on a highway, for some
200 miles to see if it will go away. Is it safe? Is it only deposit
cosed by short distance driving, or am I facing some major reprise?

--
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Toy
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 9:52 am    Post subject: Re: Oil cap Reply with quote

"Glenn Spence" <grspence@ameritech.net> wrote in message
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Quote:
My guess is short trips and motor not up to temperature long enough to
release the water. The 200 mile ride might be overdoing it but a 20 to 50
mile one will tell the story. If it's gone after the ride then it's just
the short trips.
Skippy
"Tony" <tonyjnospam@nospamvisi.com> wrote in message
news:41bb4b36$0$9728$a1866201@visi.com...
Coolant, probably, but Ivan is running dual fuel (gasoline / LP ) so it
could be a side effect of the LP. Seems to me that burning LP generates
water as a by-product of combusion. This is nothing more than a guess to
give Ivan another possibility.

Tony
'91 100q

Richard Wall wrote:
Looks to me as if you have water getting into the oil. Head gasket ??
Not a good sign
Regards Richard
"Yvan" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:20041211144605.09b7ac3b@iva.imperl.com...

While I was trying to solve my idle - ISV problems, I removed oil cap to
see if I have vacuum leak, and it looks like this:

http://us.f3.yahoofs.com/users/41b0e1b7z17770e36/5719/__sr_/73f4.jpg?phRivuBBW4VfwRBN

I changed oil one month ago - some 500 miles (Castrol GTX - mineral
oil). All this time car is driven on short distances (2 - 2.5 miles) to
work and back.

It never looked like this. I am going to drive it on a highway, for some
200 miles to see if it will go away. Is it safe? Is it only deposit
cosed by short distance driving, or am I facing some major reprise?

--
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once its there its there to stay..........

a long drive will not shift the "mayonnaise"

you will have to physically remove it then do more miles per day to keep the
mayonnaise away.

toy
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 1:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Oil cap Reply with quote

Nedavno KWS pise:

| Looks to me that someone put lithium grease on the cap thread so it
| would come off easier. Suggest you wipe this crap off and drive the
| car for a day or so; see if it recurs. Also, look into the hole at
| the lubricant on the lifters; does it look just like the stuff on the
| cap?

I looked and I couldn't see this white stuff nowhere else but on the
cap. And there can be nothing on the cap because I changed oil recently
myself, and car was not at any mechanic since.



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Yvan
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 2:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Oil cap Reply with quote

Nedavno Glenn Spence pise:

| My guess is short trips and motor not up to temperature long enough to
| release the water. The 200 mile ride might be overdoing it but a 20
| to 50 mile one will tell the story. If it's gone after the ride then
| it's just the short trips.

So should I clean cap before or just drive some 50 miles, and then see
if it is gone?


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KWS
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 10:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Oil cap Reply with quote

Strange. If coolant was getting into the oil, then I would expect to see
this elsewhere. Perhaps there is some reason it would accumulate as it has
in your image, but I don't understand how. Perhaps one explanation is that
the lifters are hot enough to boil off any moisture and it condenses on the
cap.

Per my initial posting, I suggest you wipe the stuff off and see if it is
back in a day or so. Also, if coolant is getting into your oil, you should
see evidence of it on the dipstick. What's happening there?

Ken


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Nedavno KWS pise:

| Looks to me that someone put lithium grease on the cap thread so it
| would come off easier. Suggest you wipe this crap off and drive the
| car for a day or so; see if it recurs. Also, look into the hole at
| the lubricant on the lifters; does it look just like the stuff on the
| cap?

I looked and I couldn't see this white stuff nowhere else but on the
cap. And there can be nothing on the cap because I changed oil recently
myself, and car was not at any mechanic since.



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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 12:05 am    Post subject: Re: Oil cap Reply with quote

Nedavno KWS pise:

| Also, if coolant is getting into your oil, you
| should see evidence of it on the dipstick. What's happening there?

Nothing. Coolant level is OK, oil level did not rise up. Could be LPG
related. Another thing. Around oil cap was an oily patch, so I bended
flaps on oil cap to make it tighter fit to valve cover. Since oily patch
is gone, maybe moist can not go out either, and that could cause
creation of "mayonnaise"?



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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 5:41 am    Post subject: Re: Oil cap Reply with quote

I would say that if the oil in the crankcase isn't showing contamination and
the coolant isn't leaking out that things may not be so bad. I am not a
chemist, so the effects of LPG exhaust maybe leaking around valve stems
causing mayonnaise isn't something I understand.

If you clean the stuff off, how soon does it build up again? Did you change
the brand of oil to Castrol and then this happened? If so: try switching
back. Maybe there is something in the formulation of Castrol that doesn't
agree with your engine.

Maybe it's nothing to worry about, but it is good to be concerned. Good luck
Yvan!

Ken



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Nedavno KWS pise:

| Also, if coolant is getting into your oil, you
| should see evidence of it on the dipstick. What's happening there?

Nothing. Coolant level is OK, oil level did not rise up. Could be LPG
related. Another thing. Around oil cap was an oily patch, so I bended
flaps on oil cap to make it tighter fit to valve cover. Since oily patch
is gone, maybe moist can not go out either, and that could cause
creation of "mayonnaise"?



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