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dweezil
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Sun Dec 26, 2004 4:04 am Post subject:
Goodbye my 911, I won't miss you. |
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I am a very happy person today.
Why?
Because I finally got rid of my 2000 911, a horrible piece of junk I
was stupid enough to have bought new four years ago. I replaced it with
a properly engineered automobile - a 2001 BMW M5 with the Dinan S2
upgrades.
Farwell me 911, I won't miss you. You are barely better than a Honda
Civic.
You aren't terribly good looking. Your parents have style; you have
none.
You're badly designed. You don't even have a glove compartment.
You drive about as well as the Taurus I rented last week from Hertz.
Let me correct that: I think that the Taurus is faster.
You're noisy, unreliable, and expensive to repair.
You feel cheap. Your doors are light. You are made of plastic.
No wonder Porsche has the highest profit margins in the automobile
industry - selling Hondas for $80,000 is a profitable business to be
in.
Porsche, you can keep your Boxsters and your Cayennes, you can keep the
911 that is the shadow of what this car once was.
There was a time when I said I would never drive a car other than a
Porsche. The 911 was my second Porsche; the first was a 1988 944. That
944 has a lot more soul than my 911 will ever have.
I am gone from Porsche for good. Good riddance to crap.
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E Brown
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Sun Dec 26, 2004 5:13 am Post subject:
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On 25 Dec 2004 15:04:38 -0800, "dweezil" <kirkegrd@msn.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Porsche, you can keep your Boxsters and your Cayennes, you can keep the
911 that is the shadow of what this car once was.
There was a time when I said I would never drive a car other than a
Porsche. The 911 was my second Porsche; the first was a 1988 944. That
944 has a lot more soul than my 911 will ever have.
I am gone from Porsche for good. Good riddance to crap.
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Well, as long as you aren't bitter! :-) Enjoy the M5, they're very
cool cars.
Emanuel
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1983 Porsche 911 Guards Red/Black
1983 Porsche 944 Guards Red/Black
1983 Porsche 928 Guards Red/Black |
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S.C. Porsche
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Sun Dec 26, 2004 7:00 am Post subject:
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i too have found that my 944 has a lot more spirit than my 911 (912) had.
but, there are many who say 944's are barely even a porsche. go figure.
Sean
84 944 Sunkis Orange
"E Brown" <epbrown01@att.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | On 25 Dec 2004 15:04:38 -0800, "dweezil" <kirkegrd@msn.com> wrote:
Porsche, you can keep your Boxsters and your Cayennes, you can keep the
911 that is the shadow of what this car once was.
There was a time when I said I would never drive a car other than a
Porsche. The 911 was my second Porsche; the first was a 1988 944. That
944 has a lot more soul than my 911 will ever have.
I am gone from Porsche for good. Good riddance to crap.
Well, as long as you aren't bitter! :-) Enjoy the M5, they're very
cool cars.
Emanuel
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1983 Porsche 911 Guards Red/Black
1983 Porsche 944 Guards Red/Black
1983 Porsche 928 Guards Red/Black |
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kk
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Sun Dec 26, 2004 10:25 pm Post subject:
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My 911 eats BMW's for breakfast. I will never drive anything else!!
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KK
"dweezil" <kirkegrd@msn.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I am a very happy person today.
Why?
Because I finally got rid of my 2000 911, a horrible piece of junk I
was stupid enough to have bought new four years ago. I replaced it with
a properly engineered automobile - a 2001 BMW M5 with the Dinan S2
upgrades.
Farwell me 911, I won't miss you. You are barely better than a Honda
Civic.
You aren't terribly good looking. Your parents have style; you have
none.
You're badly designed. You don't even have a glove compartment.
You drive about as well as the Taurus I rented last week from Hertz.
Let me correct that: I think that the Taurus is faster.
You're noisy, unreliable, and expensive to repair.
You feel cheap. Your doors are light. You are made of plastic.
No wonder Porsche has the highest profit margins in the automobile
industry - selling Hondas for $80,000 is a profitable business to be
in.
Porsche, you can keep your Boxsters and your Cayennes, you can keep the
911 that is the shadow of what this car once was.
There was a time when I said I would never drive a car other than a
Porsche. The 911 was my second Porsche; the first was a 1988 944. That
944 has a lot more soul than my 911 will ever have.
I am gone from Porsche for good. Good riddance to crap.
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Steve Grauman
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Mon Dec 27, 2004 7:53 am Post subject:
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| Quote: | i too have found that my 944 has a lot more spirit than my 911 (912)
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The 912 is not a 911. It's a 911 chassis with a toned-down suspension and a 356
motor in it. You can't make comparisons between the 912 and the 944, the 944
was a better driver's car. The 912 was for people who couldn't afford a real
911. I've driven enough BMW's to know that while they build a great car, none
of them are 911 beaters, and the Z3 was never even close to making me prefer it
over the Boxster.
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dweezil
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Mon Dec 27, 2004 7:53 am Post subject:
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Sadly, I haven't sold the 911 yet, so I have to drive it when the M5's
in the shop!
(I am interested in selling the car - only 28k miles on it in LA - if
anyone is interested. But, I don't recommend it!)
Admittedly my post was filled with attitude, but I felt the point was
important to make. A 2000 911 just ain't a great car. The M5 creates
the excitement I thought I'd get from the 911. Porsche has made better
911's in the past, and perhaps they are making better 911's today. But
in the year 2000 - they produced a big disappointment in my book.
Steve Grauman wrote:
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944 has a lot more soul than my 911 will ever have.
What could have made you feel that way? In 40 years Porsche has never
built a
911 that wasn't considered among the best sports cars in the world.
I am gone from Porsche for good. Good riddance to crap.
Wow, harsh words from a harsh critic. I gotta say, I don't think
Porsche needs
customers with this kind of attitude anyway. You moved onto an
M5....=) I'll
see in you my 911, Mr. BMW.
Steve Grauman |
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Steve Grauman
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Mon Dec 27, 2004 7:53 am Post subject:
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| Quote: | That
944 has a lot more soul than my 911 will ever have.
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What could have made you feel that way? In 40 years Porsche has never built a
911 that wasn't considered among the best sports cars in the world.
| Quote: | I am gone from Porsche for good. Good riddance to crap.
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Wow, harsh words from a harsh critic. I gotta say, I don't think Porsche needs
customers with this kind of attitude anyway. You moved onto an M5....=) I'll
see in you my 911, Mr. BMW.
Steve Grauman |
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Chicago Paddling-Fishing
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Mon Dec 27, 2004 9:50 am Post subject:
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dweezil <kirkegrd@msn.com> wrote:
: Sadly, I haven't sold the 911 yet, so I have to drive it when the M5's
: in the shop!
: (I am interested in selling the car - only 28k miles on it in LA - if
: anyone is interested. But, I don't recommend it!)
<snip>
Ah, well, if it's such a bad car, I'll take it off your hands for $500
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Chicago Paddling-Fishing
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Mon Dec 27, 2004 7:06 pm Post subject:
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dweezil <kirkegrd@msn.com> wrote:
: Chicago Paddling-Fishing wrote:
:> dweezil <kirkegrd@msn.com> wrote:
:> : (I am interested in selling the car - only 28k miles on it in LA -
: if
:> : anyone is interested. But, I don't recommend it!)
:> <snip>
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:> Ah, well, if it's such a bad car, I'll take it off your hands for
: $500
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:> --
:> John Nelson
: Sadly I'm in the investment business - so I'm plenty used to selling
: things for more than they are worth (and sometimes, unfortunately, for
: less than they're worth too)...
Well, I hope your not holding lots of oil futures at $60/barrel...
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dweezil
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Mon Dec 27, 2004 8:05 pm Post subject:
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Chicago Paddling-Fishing wrote:
| Quote: | dweezil <kirkegrd@msn.com> wrote:
: (I am interested in selling the car - only 28k miles on it in LA -
if
: anyone is interested. But, I don't recommend it!)
snip
Ah, well, if it's such a bad car, I'll take it off your hands for
$500
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John Nelson
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Sadly I'm in the investment business - so I'm plenty used to selling
things for more than they are worth (and sometimes, unfortunately, for
less than they're worth too)... |
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Bill Schmidt
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Mon Dec 27, 2004 8:47 pm Post subject:
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Please excuse this somewhat Off-Topic response:
The 912 has earned and enjoyed a pretty decent following in it's lifetime.
Of course on a smaller scale, however still comparable to the "cult-ish" fan
base of the air-cooled VWs. This was a vehicle that was produced for a
relatively short amount of time, and thus is beginning to appreciate in
value and status. Granted, the out-of-the-hole performance is not
comparable to the 911, but a 912 is quite enjoyable to drive on twisty roads
just the same, quite easy to maintain and certainly attracts attention and
interest from the general public still. I own a '66 912 - my first Porsche
and I must write that it was a very interesting vehicle to learn about; it's
history both with the "new" body style (at that time in the 60's), and the
venerable flat-four pushrod engine that was Porsche's bread and butter in
the 356 line up for so many years. Also interesting (and frustrating at
times) in it's lineage were the changes that were made almost annually to
the body and mechanicals in the early vehicles, not to mention the
differences between the USA Export and European Models (heating, cooling,
exhaust etc.).
Do I recall correctly that the 912 was actually introduced BEFORE the 911,
to "test" the public reaction to the new body style?
While it is true that the 944 was a better driver's car (comfort, handling
and performance and oh yeah, HEAT), the old 912s still sort of represent the
old "true sports car" theme for many people; small, not terribly comfortable
for those over 6' in height and somewhat loud.
Thanks for the indulgence, all ~
<912 protective mode=OFF>
- Bill Schmidt
'66 Porsche 912
'74 MB 240D
"Steve Grauman" <oneactor1@aol.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | i too have found that my 944 has a lot more spirit than my 911 (912)
The 912 is not a 911. It's a 911 chassis with a toned-down suspension and
a 356
motor in it. You can't make comparisons between the 912 and the 944, the
944
was a better driver's car. The 912 was for people who couldn't afford a
real
911. I've driven enough BMW's to know that while they build a great car,
none
of them are 911 beaters, and the Z3 was never even close to making me
prefer it
over the Boxster.
Steve Grauman |
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Steve Grauman
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Tue Dec 28, 2004 5:31 am Post subject:
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| Quote: | A 2000 911 just ain't a great car.
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Well, there are literally millions of experienced drivers, including myself,
who find that to be a silly and obtuse claim. But it's your car and you money
so drive whatever you like. The last M car I thought had anything on a 911 in
terms of raw sportiness was the 4-cylinder 88-91 M3.
Steve Grauman |
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Steve Grauman
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Tue Dec 28, 2004 5:35 am Post subject:
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| Quote: | The 912 has earned and enjoyed a pretty decent following in it's lifetime.
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I'm a huge "Porscheophile", and I love nearly everything they've made
throughout the years. I find the 912 to be an interesting vehicle and a
historical piece of value. I admit, I wouldn't mind owning one, both a older
carbureated version and a newer fuel injected 912 E. But it isn't really
compareable - as a sports car - to the 944, especially the 944 Turbo. In
fairness, the 911 isn't quite the sports car that the Carrera GT is, either.
;-)
Steve Grauman |
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Success-Productions
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Tue Dec 28, 2004 7:35 am Post subject:
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I'll beat that offer of $500.00! I'll give $550.00! I have an 84 928 with
85K that will smoke it but it might be fun until I sell it for a nice
profit!!
Roger
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| Quote: | dweezil <kirkegrd@msn.com> wrote:
: Chicago Paddling-Fishing wrote:
:> dweezil <kirkegrd@msn.com> wrote:
:> : (I am interested in selling the car - only 28k miles on it in LA -
: if
:> : anyone is interested. But, I don't recommend it!)
:> <snip
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:> Ah, well, if it's such a bad car, I'll take it off your hands for
: $500
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:> --
:> John Nelson
: Sadly I'm in the investment business - so I'm plenty used to selling
: things for more than they are worth (and sometimes, unfortunately, for
: less than they're worth too)...
Well, I hope your not holding lots of oil futures at $60/barrel...
--
John Nelson
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dweezil
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Tue Dec 28, 2004 7:57 am Post subject:
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Steve- next time you're in LA let me know - I suspect you haven't
driven an M5 with the Dinan S2 upgrades before. I promise that if you
take it for a spin you'll be begging for a longer ride... and trust
me, I've gotten "oohs and aahs" from passengers in this car that the
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