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Harry Face
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Wed Dec 07, 2005 9:14 am Post subject:
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Here's a new one on me. Last night an 06 Buick Lucerne commercial was
shown and it was touting its Heated Windshield Washer Fluid a new
feature for 2006. A warm 140 degree burst of windshield washer fluid is
supposed to immediately clear off ice & snow from your windshield.
--- questions ---
How is the WW fluid heated, is it by a heating element in the bottle?
Does it take time for it to heat up or is the WW Fluid heated at all
times and at a 140 degrees when you start the car up in the morning ?
Wouldn't flooding the windshield with warm water in really cold weather
cause it to steam / fog up ?
Harryface
05 Park Avenue, 32,672
91 Bonneville LE 304,778
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sdlomi2
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Wed Dec 07, 2005 4:35 pm Post subject:
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"Harry Face" <harryface@webtv.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Here's a new one on me. Last night an 06 Buick Lucerne commercial was
shown and it was touting its Heated Windshield Washer Fluid a new
feature for 2006. A warm 140 degree burst of windshield washer fluid is
supposed to immediately clear off ice & snow from your windshield.
--- questions ---
How is the WW fluid heated, is it by a heating element in the bottle?
Does it take time for it to heat up or is the WW Fluid heated at all
times and at a 140 degrees when you start the car up in the morning ?
Wouldn't flooding the windshield with warm water in really cold weather
cause it to steam / fog up ?
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Good concern, Harry Face; my 1st concern was the danger of cracking the
iced windshield--esp. causing a pre-existing chip to *run*. Certainly GM
determined 140 degrees was a safe temperature??? s |
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80 Knight
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Wed Dec 07, 2005 5:10 pm Post subject:
Re: Heated WW Fluid 06 Buick |
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| Quote: | "Harry Face" <harryface@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:5126-439669AD-2481@storefull-3118.bay.webtv.net...
Here's a new one on me. Last night an 06 Buick Lucerne commercial was
shown and it was touting its Heated Windshield Washer Fluid a new
feature for 2006. A warm 140 degree burst of windshield washer fluid is
supposed to immediately clear off ice & snow from your windshield.
--- questions ---
How is the WW fluid heated, is it by a heating element in the bottle?
Does it take time for it to heat up or is the WW Fluid heated at all
times and at a 140 degrees when you start the car up in the morning ?
Wouldn't flooding the windshield with warm water in really cold weather
cause it to steam / fog up ?
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I have never seen one in a car before, but just recently Canadian Tire
started selling a device that you install in your car, and it warms the
washer fluid up to 60C when you first start the car.
Here is what there site says about it:
Helps keep windshield clean all year round
Quickly heats windshield washer fluid to 60°C when the vehicle is started
HotWash works with existing windshield washer fluid control
Quickly removes ice, frost and snow without scraping
In warmer months, HotWash is more effective at removing dirt, bugs and road
grime from windshield
Easy to install; no special tools required
It sells for $59.99 (Canadian) and was on sale for $39.99 (Canadian) when it
first came out a month or so ago. Sounds like a neat little gadget to me,
but time will tell if it works any good.
Here's the link:
http://tinyurl.com/bl2mt
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N8N
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Wed Dec 07, 2005 10:37 pm Post subject:
Re: Heated WW Fluid 06 Buick |
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80 Knight wrote:
| Quote: | "Harry Face" <harryface@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:5126-439669AD-2481@storefull-3118.bay.webtv.net...
Here's a new one on me. Last night an 06 Buick Lucerne commercial was
shown and it was touting its Heated Windshield Washer Fluid a new
feature for 2006. A warm 140 degree burst of windshield washer fluid is
supposed to immediately clear off ice & snow from your windshield.
--- questions ---
How is the WW fluid heated, is it by a heating element in the bottle?
Does it take time for it to heat up or is the WW Fluid heated at all
times and at a 140 degrees when you start the car up in the morning ?
Wouldn't flooding the windshield with warm water in really cold weather
cause it to steam / fog up ?
I have never seen one in a car before, but just recently Canadian Tire
started selling a device that you install in your car, and it warms the
washer fluid up to 60C when you first start the car.
Here is what there site says about it:
Helps keep windshield clean all year round
Quickly heats windshield washer fluid to 60°C when the vehicle is started
HotWash works with existing windshield washer fluid control
Quickly removes ice, frost and snow without scraping
In warmer months, HotWash is more effective at removing dirt, bugs and road
grime from windshield
Easy to install; no special tools required
It sells for $59.99 (Canadian) and was on sale for $39.99 (Canadian) when it
first came out a month or so ago. Sounds like a neat little gadget to me,
but time will tell if it works any good.
Here's the link:
http://tinyurl.com/bl2mt
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Wouldn't it be fairly trivial to make a little heat exchanger that
would go in one of the heater hoses? Or even just spiral wrap the WW
hose around a heater hose a couple times?
nate |
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80 Knight
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Thu Dec 08, 2005 3:55 am Post subject:
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"N8N" <njnagel@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1133973435.158904.125950@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
80 Knight wrote:
| Quote: | "Harry Face" <harryface@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:5126-439669AD-2481@storefull-3118.bay.webtv.net...
Here's a new one on me. Last night an 06 Buick Lucerne commercial was
shown and it was touting its Heated Windshield Washer Fluid a new
feature for 2006. A warm 140 degree burst of windshield washer fluid is
supposed to immediately clear off ice & snow from your windshield.
--- questions ---
How is the WW fluid heated, is it by a heating element in the bottle?
Does it take time for it to heat up or is the WW Fluid heated at all
times and at a 140 degrees when you start the car up in the morning ?
Wouldn't flooding the windshield with warm water in really cold weather
cause it to steam / fog up ?
I have never seen one in a car before, but just recently Canadian Tire
started selling a device that you install in your car, and it warms the
washer fluid up to 60C when you first start the car.
Here is what there site says about it:
Helps keep windshield clean all year round
Quickly heats windshield washer fluid to 60°C when the vehicle is started
HotWash works with existing windshield washer fluid control
Quickly removes ice, frost and snow without scraping
In warmer months, HotWash is more effective at removing dirt, bugs and
road
grime from windshield
Easy to install; no special tools required
It sells for $59.99 (Canadian) and was on sale for $39.99 (Canadian) when
it
first came out a month or so ago. Sounds like a neat little gadget to me,
but time will tell if it works any good.
Here's the link:
http://tinyurl.com/bl2mt
Wouldn't it be fairly trivial to make a little heat exchanger that
would go in one of the heater hoses? Or even just spiral wrap the WW
hose around a heater hose a couple times?
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I would imagine many people could rig up some sort of device that could do
this. The question is will it do it in the same time, at the same
temperature, be safe, and of course, does anyone actually want this? I mean,
sure it looks neat, but I do not know anyone who has bought one from CT, and
I know a lot of people who shop and work there. |
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sdlomi2
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Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:49 am Post subject:
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"N8N" <njnagel@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1133973435.158904.125950@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
80 Knight wrote:
| Quote: | "Harry Face" <harryface@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:5126-439669AD-2481@storefull-3118.bay.webtv.net...
Here's a new one on me. Last night an 06 Buick Lucerne commercial was
shown and it was touting its Heated Windshield Washer Fluid a new
feature for 2006. A warm 140 degree burst of windshield washer fluid is
supposed to immediately clear off ice & snow from your windshield.
--- questions ---
How is the WW fluid heated, is it by a heating element in the bottle?
Does it take time for it to heat up or is the WW Fluid heated at all
times and at a 140 degrees when you start the car up in the morning ?
Wouldn't flooding the windshield with warm water in really cold weather
cause it to steam / fog up ?
I have never seen one in a car before, but just recently Canadian Tire
started selling a device that you install in your car, and it warms the
washer fluid up to 60C when you first start the car.
Here is what there site says about it:
Helps keep windshield clean all year round
Quickly heats windshield washer fluid to 60°C when the vehicle is started
HotWash works with existing windshield washer fluid control
Quickly removes ice, frost and snow without scraping
In warmer months, HotWash is more effective at removing dirt, bugs and
road
grime from windshield
Easy to install; no special tools required
It sells for $59.99 (Canadian) and was on sale for $39.99 (Canadian) when
it
first came out a month or so ago. Sounds like a neat little gadget to me,
but time will tell if it works any good.
Here's the link:
http://tinyurl.com/bl2mt
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Wouldn't it be fairly trivial to make a little heat exchanger that
would go in one of the heater hoses? Or even just spiral wrap the WW
hose around a heater hose a couple times?
nate
Nate, sure looks like one could wind, spirally, a small copper tube,
carrying the solvent from the reservoir, around a heater hose and connect it
to the solvent nozzles and achieve some *degree* of success. May not be hot
soon enough, but given time, the hose gets plenty hot to burn hands.
BTW, 80 Knight, that is an interesting device. s |
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Silver Surfer
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Thu Dec 08, 2005 5:59 am Post subject:
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Here's a link to an article on the heated washer fluid feature.
http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2005/08/24/141203.html
"Harry Face" <harryface@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:5126-439669AD-2481@storefull-3118.bay.webtv.net...
| Quote: | Here's a new one on me. Last night an 06 Buick Lucerne commercial was
shown and it was touting its Heated Windshield Washer Fluid a new
feature for 2006. A warm 140 degree burst of windshield washer fluid is
supposed to immediately clear off ice & snow from your windshield.
--- questions ---
How is the WW fluid heated, is it by a heating element in the bottle?
Does it take time for it to heat up or is the WW Fluid heated at all
times and at a 140 degrees when you start the car up in the morning ?
Wouldn't flooding the windshield with warm water in really cold weather
cause it to steam / fog up ?
Harryface
05 Park Avenue, 32,672
91 Bonneville LE 304,778
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Harry Face
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Thu Dec 08, 2005 8:18 am Post subject:
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Surfer & Knight
Those were informative links thanks. Now people can start saying why
didn't they think of that 20 years ago?
LOL
Harryface
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James C. Reeves
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Thu Dec 08, 2005 9:15 am Post subject:
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"Harry Face" <harryface@webtv.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Surfer & Knight
Those were informative links thanks. Now people can start saying why
didn't they think of that 20 years ago?
LOL
Harryface
05 Park Avenue, 32,672
91 Bonneville LE 304,778
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We might know the answer to your question in 2-3 years when windshields
start cracking from several "cycles" of "thermal shock". But, we'll see.
From an initial look, it seems like a good idea. Hopefully GM tested this
thoroughly over years worth of simulation. |
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Dennis Smith
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Thu Dec 08, 2005 11:41 am Post subject:
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In article <25098-439797F0-9@storefull-3118.bay.webtv.net>,
harryface@webtv.net says...
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Surfer & Knight
Those were informative links thanks. Now people can start saying why
didn't they think of that 20 years ago?
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Just like the amazing fold flat front passenger seat in the Malibu and
Grand Prix. Funny thing is, my brother's 36 year old Grand Prix has the
same thing. I guess GM forgot about it for about 30 years.
What will be the next big "new" thing, quarter windows that roll down?
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Thu Dec 08, 2005 7:57 pm Post subject:
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At first look, "heated windshield washer fluid" sounds excessive.
The best improvement BUICK made in that area was
the ONE GALLON fluid reservoir.
On the other hand, my BUICK came with many features
that I wouldn't have ordered;
Automatic headlights
Auto door locks
Electric windows
Cruise Control.
Remote door lock/unlock
But now, I can't imagine driving a car without those features.
If I would grouse about one thing,
it'd be "the hundred-button radio"
It takes a co-pilot to run the damn thing.
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Steve W.
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Thu Dec 08, 2005 10:44 pm Post subject:
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"Harry Face" <harryface@webtv.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Surfer & Knight
Those were informative links thanks. Now people can start saying why
didn't they think of that 20 years ago?
LOL
Harryface
05 Park Avenue, 32,672
91 Bonneville LE 304,778
Actually it has been around for a while. Mercedes has it on some |
vehicles. Works just fine.
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Sharon K.Cooke
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Thu Dec 08, 2005 11:57 pm Post subject:
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"Steve W." wrote:
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"Harry Face" <harryface@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Surfer & Knight
Those were informative links thanks. Now people can start saying why
didn't they think of that 20 years ago?
LOL
Harryface
05 Park Avenue, 32,672
91 Bonneville LE 304,778
Actually it has been around for a while. Mercedes has it on some
vehicles. Works just fine.
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I had a plastic coil "kit" thing that I bought/installed on a '71 Ford Pinto's
radiator hose more than 30 years ago. The WW fluid heater worked OK, once the
engine got hot enough for the thermostat to open; until then though, it was just
cold WW fluid. An electric WW fluid heater would be a definite improvement. |
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Fri Dec 09, 2005 2:52 am Post subject:
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European cars have been offering this sort of thing for some years.
While they may vary a bit in design, I believe that, on one type at least,
a 12 v electrical heating element is used to heat the fluid quickly as
it comes from the reservoir. I could be mistaken but I believe that is the
way they work. It is hot on demand, not constantly maintained hot.
Dont know how Lucerne is doing it.
Unfortunately, Buick has dropped the LeSabre, which leaves me wanting
a better car than the LaCross and not being willing to pay $40,000 for a
Lucerne.
Toyota, Honda, or VW...my next car will bear one of those logos.
"Harry Face" <harryface@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:5126-439669AD-2481@storefull-3118.bay.webtv.net...
| Quote: | Here's a new one on me. Last night an 06 Buick Lucerne commercial was
shown and it was touting its Heated Windshield Washer Fluid a new
feature for 2006. A warm 140 degree burst of windshield washer fluid is
supposed to immediately clear off ice & snow from your windshield.
--- questions ---
How is the WW fluid heated, is it by a heating element in the bottle?
Does it take time for it to heat up or is the WW Fluid heated at all
times and at a 140 degrees when you start the car up in the morning ?
Wouldn't flooding the windshield with warm water in really cold weather
cause it to steam / fog up ?
Harryface
05 Park Avenue, 32,672
91 Bonneville LE 304,778
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GRL
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Sat Dec 10, 2005 8:22 am Post subject:
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A Lucerne V6 costs nowhere near $40,000. Start around $15,000 south of that
figure.
http://www.edmunds.com/new/2006/buick/lucerne/sedan/large/index.html
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| Quote: | European cars have been offering this sort of thing for some years.
While they may vary a bit in design, I believe that, on one type at least,
a 12 v electrical heating element is used to heat the fluid quickly as
it comes from the reservoir. I could be mistaken but I believe that is
the
way they work. It is hot on demand, not constantly maintained hot.
Dont know how Lucerne is doing it.
Unfortunately, Buick has dropped the LeSabre, which leaves me wanting
a better car than the LaCross and not being willing to pay $40,000 for a
Lucerne.
Toyota, Honda, or VW...my next car will bear one of those logos.
"Harry Face" <harryface@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:5126-439669AD-2481@storefull-3118.bay.webtv.net...
Here's a new one on me. Last night an 06 Buick Lucerne commercial was
shown and it was touting its Heated Windshield Washer Fluid a new
feature for 2006. A warm 140 degree burst of windshield washer fluid is
supposed to immediately clear off ice & snow from your windshield.
--- questions ---
How is the WW fluid heated, is it by a heating element in the bottle?
Does it take time for it to heat up or is the WW Fluid heated at all
times and at a 140 degrees when you start the car up in the morning ?
Wouldn't flooding the windshield with warm water in really cold weather
cause it to steam / fog up ?
Harryface
05 Park Avenue, 32,672
91 Bonneville LE 304,778
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