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Bob Bitch'n
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Al Bundy
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Mon Dec 05, 2005 2:09 am Post subject:
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Bob Bitch'n wrote:
Living in the past is sad. Dealing with reality is the hope of the
future. GM is still huge and will be for some time. However, they are
poorly managed. There could well come a time when Toyota and GM could
merge to the benefit of both. As the Chinese move forward there will be
many new alliances.
Michigan is probably not an attractive spot for a new Toyota engine
plant because of the economy and lack of state support. And you are
right about Toyota trying to soften the blow of their progress relative
to the American companies. I like the way they offered to RAISE their
prices to help us when our companies had to discount prices to move
products.
We better start looking at these moves and work harder and smarter or
we won't be able to afford new cars. I keep thinking that Edward Deming
is rolling over in his grave saying, "I told you so." He told Henry
Ford one day, "You just don't get it." Our companies still don't get
it. They have ISO certifications that turn out to mean little more than
eyewash. The targets keep moving and we're still only a little bit
behind.
Sorry for ranting. |
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StingRay
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Mon Dec 05, 2005 4:30 am Post subject:
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"Bob Bitch'n" <Bob@spamhater.com> wrote in message
news:wSEkf.10980$dv.1053@fed1read02...
The article's author clearly wasn't concerned about the truth Bob. You're
giving far too much credibility to an un-named author. The author is clearly
speculating shamefully by using the following 5 phrases in this short, six
sentence article:
1. "The rumor mill has it "
2. "Blue-collar workers must be thinking the same way"
3. "which explains why"
4. "Both were presumably doing some subtle scouting "
5. "we think "
Bob, I wouldn't lend any credibilty whatsoever to an unsigned article
containing so much supposition. IMHO, the author said a great deal of
nothing.
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Spam Hater
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Mon Dec 05, 2005 9:16 am Post subject:
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In article <1133726979.274995.318400@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
"Al Bundy" <MSfortune@mcpmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | And you are
right about Toyota trying to soften the blow of their progress relative
to the American companies. I like the way they offered to RAISE their
prices to help us when our companies had to discount prices to move
products.
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I heard a Toyota manager say they could sell at a lower price, but it
wouldn't be nice to struggling GM. |
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Al Bundy
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Mon Dec 05, 2005 9:16 pm Post subject:
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They sure want to avoid the backlash of the 70's when UAW workers and
others thought it was cool to demolish a Japanese vehicle for the news
cameras. I suspect the climate is far different these days when there
are so many foreign manufacturer's plants here employing Americans.
There's a cultural difference too. The Japanese don't like to embarrass
their competitors or reject people's thoughts directly. My Japanese
friend never likes to say "No" when I ask him something. He will say,
"It would be very difficult." I am aware that this is as close to "No"
as he will get.
The Chinese would probably be able to beat everybody's prices too one
of these days. They will just do enough discounting to get some market
share to begin with. |
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