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Dennis W
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Thu Dec 02, 2004 5:38 am Post subject:
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Why have I never heard of cam seal leaks till my 2001(A4 Quattro) 2.8 at
60k? I've owned everthing from GM-Asian-European. What is the fix? Big
dollars at the dealer? Otherwise, what a great car to drive. Only thing that
can beat a rear wheel drive benz. TIA.
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Ian S
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Thu Dec 02, 2004 5:40 am Post subject:
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Why have I never heard of cam seal leaks till my 2001(A4 Quattro) 2.8
at
60k? I've owned everthing from GM-Asian-European. What is the fix? Big
dollars at the dealer? Otherwise, what a great car to drive. Only
thing
that
can beat a rear wheel drive benz. TIA.
Actually, it's all part of Audi's well-engineered external lubrication
system. I think they licensed it from the British. ;-)
Keeps the rust at bay doncha know ?!
Well, there you go: lubrication AND rust preventative. What will those |
German engineers think of next?! |
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Iain Miller
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Why have I never heard of cam seal leaks till my 2001(A4 Quattro) 2.8
at
60k? I've owned everthing from GM-Asian-European. What is the fix? Big
dollars at the dealer? Otherwise, what a great car to drive. Only thing
that
can beat a rear wheel drive benz. TIA.
Actually, it's all part of Audi's well-engineered external lubrication
system. I think they licensed it from the British. ;-)
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Keeps the rust at bay doncha know ?!
I.
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Ian S
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"Dennis W" <dwyattgrNOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Why have I never heard of cam seal leaks till my 2001(A4 Quattro) 2.8 at
60k? I've owned everthing from GM-Asian-European. What is the fix? Big
dollars at the dealer? Otherwise, what a great car to drive. Only thing
that
can beat a rear wheel drive benz. TIA.
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Actually, it's all part of Audi's well-engineered external lubrication
system. I think they licensed it from the British. ;-)
Seriously, it appears to be a fault with the 2.8 - mine had the cam seals
done recently at 73,000 miles along with the TB service. If you haven't
noticed, the reliability of German cars has tanked over the past few years.
Probably the most spectacular fall has been MB but the smaller VWs are bad
too. Even the new 7-series BMW is an embarrassment. To me, an engineer,
there is NO excuse for engine oil leaks at 60,000 miles or coils that fail
within a year (VW recall). These are design and/or quality control issues
that are a result of shoddy work. For reliability, you're better off getting
a Hyundai. My 98 A4 is my last Audi and I've driven nothing else but Audis
for nearly 20 years. |
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Ronny
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Thu Dec 02, 2004 5:34 pm Post subject:
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Why have I never heard of cam seal leaks till my 2001(A4 Quattro)
2.8
at
60k? I've owned everthing from GM-Asian-European. What is the fix?
Big
dollars at the dealer? Otherwise, what a great car to drive. Only
thing
that
can beat a rear wheel drive benz. TIA.
Actually, it's all part of Audi's well-engineered external lubrication
system. I think they licensed it from the British. ;-)
Keeps the rust at bay doncha know ?!
Well, there you go: lubrication AND rust preventative. What will those
German engineers think of next?!
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They may not be the most reliable, but is everything about reliability? They
look great, drive great and have the best interiors.
If Audi owners wanted reliability they would be Toyota owners. |
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Ian S
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Why have I never heard of cam seal leaks till my 2001(A4 Quattro)
2.8
at
60k? I've owned everthing from GM-Asian-European. What is the fix?
Big
dollars at the dealer? Otherwise, what a great car to drive. Only
thing
that
can beat a rear wheel drive benz. TIA.
Actually, it's all part of Audi's well-engineered external
lubrication
system. I think they licensed it from the British. ;-)
Keeps the rust at bay doncha know ?!
Well, there you go: lubrication AND rust preventative. What will those
German engineers think of next?!
They may not be the most reliable, but is everything about reliability?
They
look great, drive great and have the best interiors.
If Audi owners wanted reliability they would be Toyota owners.
I don't see why reliability and the other attributes you list have to be |
mutually exclusive. Especially when in some of the Audi/VW problems, poor
design is clearly the issue. |
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Jay Somerset
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Why have I never heard of cam seal leaks till my 2001(A4 Quattro)
2.8
at
60k? I've owned everthing from GM-Asian-European. What is the fix?
Big
dollars at the dealer? Otherwise, what a great car to drive. Only
thing
that
can beat a rear wheel drive benz. TIA.
Actually, it's all part of Audi's well-engineered external
lubrication
system. I think they licensed it from the British. ;-)
Keeps the rust at bay doncha know ?!
Well, there you go: lubrication AND rust preventative. What will those
German engineers think of next?!
They may not be the most reliable, but is everything about reliability?
They
look great, drive great and have the best interiors.
If Audi owners wanted reliability they would be Toyota owners.
I don't see why reliability and the other attributes you list have to be
mutually exclusive. Especially when in some of the Audi/VW problems, poor
design is clearly the issue.
Absolutley! It is a total cop-out to to excuse poor reliability by extoling |
"look & feel." Audis, especially the A4/A6 lines between 1997 and 2001 (and
maybe still) are very poor from a reliability/robustness standpoint.
There is absolutely no excuse for having front ends practically disintegrate
by 60,000 miles (100,000 km), or having valve cover and cam seal/adjuster
gaskets dribble oil all over the outside of the engine and hot exhaust
manifolds. These cars also have a much higher than average incidence of
electrical faults -- dashboard display LED segments failing; cruise controls
that become intermittant and then stop working; exterior mirrors whose
heating elements fail within the first three years, etc.
Yes, Audis do look nice, drive nice, and generally smell nice (excpet when
oil leaks out onto the exhaust! But if a car is not relaible, then its
long-term position in the marketplace will (and has) suffered.
Would I buy another Audi? Probably not. Would I buy another TRoyota
Avalon? Probably yes. |
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Ian S
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Fri Dec 03, 2004 7:51 pm Post subject:
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"Jay Somerset" <jay@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 08:42:44 -0700, "Ian S" <iws51remove@cox.net> wrote:
I don't see why reliability and the other attributes you list have to be
mutually exclusive. Especially when in some of the Audi/VW problems,
poor
design is clearly the issue.
Absolutley! It is a total cop-out to to excuse poor reliability by
extoling
"look & feel." Audis, especially the A4/A6 lines between 1997 and 2001
(and
maybe still) are very poor from a reliability/robustness standpoint.
There is absolutely no excuse for having front ends practically
disintegrate
by 60,000 miles (100,000 km), or having valve cover and cam seal/adjuster
gaskets dribble oil all over the outside of the engine and hot exhaust
manifolds. These cars also have a much higher than average incidence of
electrical faults -- dashboard display LED segments failing; cruise
controls
that become intermittant and then stop working; exterior mirrors whose
heating elements fail within the first three years, etc.
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I had forgotten about the outside mirror heating elements! Mine expired long
ago - since I live in Phoenix, it's not a big loss although I'm always
reminded of it when I go to Flagstaff in the winter.
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Yes, Audis do look nice, drive nice, and generally smell nice (excpet when
oil leaks out onto the exhaust!
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It was always embarrassing when passengers would ask "what's that smell?"
But if a car is not relaible, then its
| Quote: | long-term position in the marketplace will (and has) suffered.
Would I buy another Audi? Probably not. Would I buy another TRoyota
Avalon? Probably yes.
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I'm considering a sports car next and the TT isn't even in the running. |
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