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Nathan
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Tue Dec 07, 2004 2:08 pm Post subject:
cold air intake |
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is it true that if cold air yields more power than normal temperated air by
the car engine. if so, i would like to modify my car aiir intake. but before
that, can anyone explain what is K&N air filter, cold ai kit, and where &
how do I install it.
Thanks
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Tue Dec 07, 2004 6:51 pm Post subject:
Re: cold air intake |
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Look carefully at your existing intake. Many Toyotas come stock from
the factory with air intake through the bumper which admits cooler
outside air.
K&N will admit more air but also more dirt (silica). Only conceivable
power improvement would be a wide open throttle. Oiled filters can foul
the hot wire air sensor if you have one.
Main effect of the set up you're describing is more intake air noise.
Likely do better by just blowing out the stock filter with compressed
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Nathan
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Tue Dec 07, 2004 8:59 pm Post subject:
Re: cold air intake |
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ya. the stock air intack is located very close to the front grille where
outside air can get into very easily... but is it true that colder air
yields more power than warmer air. If so, why?
<nospampls2002@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Look carefully at your existing intake. Many Toyotas come stock from
the factory with air intake through the bumper which admits cooler
outside air.
K&N will admit more air but also more dirt (silica). Only conceivable
power improvement would be a wide open throttle. Oiled filters can foul
the hot wire air sensor if you have one.
Main effect of the set up you're describing is more intake air noise.
Likely do better by just blowing out the stock filter with compressed
air or changing it more often.
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Philip
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Tue Dec 07, 2004 9:23 pm Post subject:
Re: cold air intake |
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Nathan: google is your friend. Cold air ... oxygen density per volume ...
basic physics.
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- Philip
In observance of Pear Harbor, feel free to
Zero in on a Mitsubishi driver and cut him off!
"Nathan" <nospamtilapia@tm.net.my> wrote in message
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| Quote: | ya. the stock air intack is located very close to the front grille where
outside air can get into very easily... but is it true that colder air
yields more power than warmer air. If so, why?
nospampls2002@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1102427492.629774.259770@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Look carefully at your existing intake. Many Toyotas come stock from
the factory with air intake through the bumper which admits cooler
outside air.
K&N will admit more air but also more dirt (silica). Only conceivable
power improvement would be a wide open throttle. Oiled filters can foul
the hot wire air sensor if you have one.
Main effect of the set up you're describing is more intake air noise.
Likely do better by just blowing out the stock filter with compressed
air or changing it more often.
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Gord Beaman
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Tue Dec 07, 2004 11:59 pm Post subject:
Re: cold air intake |
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"Nathan" <nospamtilapia@tm.net.my> wrote:
| Quote: | ya. the stock air intack is located very close to the front grille where
outside air can get into very easily... but is it true that colder air
yields more power than warmer air. If so, why?
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Because it's denser, therefore can be mixed with more fuel
therefore yields more power... simple.
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(use gordon in email) |
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HachiRoku
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Wed Dec 08, 2004 5:41 am Post subject:
Re: cold air intake |
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On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 02:08:55 +0000, Philip wrote:
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"TeGGer®" <teggeratistopdotcom@changetheobvious.invalid> wrote in message
news:Xns95B8CDC84B7AAteggeratistop@207.14.113.17...
"TeGGer®" <teggeratistopdotcom@changetheobvious.invalid> floridly penned
in
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"Nathan" <nospamtilapia@tm.net.my> floridly penned in
news:41b572f0_2@news.tm.net.my:
is it true that if cold air yields more power than normal temperated
air by the car engine. if so, i would like to modify my car aiir
intake. but before that, can anyone explain what is K&N air filter,
cold ai kit, and where & how do I install it.
Have a look at this before removing your valuable credit card from your
wallet:
http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/coldair.html
and this:
http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/faq.html#intake
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TeGGeR®
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
John ... don't you have a job or is your wife the real bread winner? WAY
too much time on your hands. LOL
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Ok, so your post was, um, OK, but I sure did like the Tagline!!! |
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HachiRoku
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Wed Dec 08, 2004 5:41 am Post subject:
Re: cold air intake |
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On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 17:08:09 +0800, Nathan wrote:
| Quote: | is it true that if cold air yields more power than normal temperated air by
the car engine. if so, i would like to modify my car aiir intake. but before
that, can anyone explain what is K&N air filter, cold ai kit, and where &
how do I install it.
Thanks
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Hmmmm....interesting subject. I put a Pilot CAI on a Tercel (!) hoping to
gain some horsepower. What I noticed was:
Fuel mileage increased about 4 MPG
Throttle response was a lot better
No real increase in horsepower; thing still couldn't make it up an anthill!
The other thing to consider is, it lets more air in. In a lot of cases, it
lets more DIRT in, too. It says to clean the filter every 30,000 miles, I
did it once a year, at about 10-12,000. I wanted to make sure the thing
had fresh oil to help keep the dirt out. I was going to increase to every
6 months, but I sold the car.
You don't say what you have for a car. If it is a throwaway, you can get
an intake pretty cheap. If it something you want to keep for a while,
unass some ducats and get a good one, like an iceman or so. |
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TeGGer®
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Wed Dec 08, 2004 5:41 am Post subject:
Re: cold air intake |
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"Nathan" <nospamtilapia@tm.net.my> floridly penned in
news:41b572f0_2@news.tm.net.my:
| Quote: | is it true that if cold air yields more power than normal temperated
air by the car engine. if so, i would like to modify my car aiir
intake. but before that, can anyone explain what is K&N air filter,
cold ai kit, and where & how do I install it.
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Have a look at this before removing your valuable credit card from your
wallet:
http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/coldair.html
Oh, and K&N filters have a tendency to munch MAF sensors on Toyotas.
They're expensive you know.
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TeGGer®
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Wed Dec 08, 2004 5:41 am Post subject:
Re: cold air intake |
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"TeGGer®" <teggeratistopdotcom@changetheobvious.invalid> floridly penned in
news:Xns95B8CD59B3FF3teggeratistop@207.14.113.17:
| Quote: | "Nathan" <nospamtilapia@tm.net.my> floridly penned in
news:41b572f0_2@news.tm.net.my:
is it true that if cold air yields more power than normal temperated
air by the car engine. if so, i would like to modify my car aiir
intake. but before that, can anyone explain what is K&N air filter,
cold ai kit, and where & how do I install it.
Have a look at this before removing your valuable credit card from your
wallet:
http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/coldair.html
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and this:
http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/faq.html#intake
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TeGGeR®
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
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Philip
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Wed Dec 08, 2004 5:41 am Post subject:
Re: cold air intake |
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"TeGGer®" <teggeratistopdotcom@changetheobvious.invalid> wrote in message
news:Xns95B8CDC84B7AAteggeratistop@207.14.113.17...
| Quote: | "TeGGer®" <teggeratistopdotcom@changetheobvious.invalid> floridly penned
in
news:Xns95B8CD59B3FF3teggeratistop@207.14.113.17:
"Nathan" <nospamtilapia@tm.net.my> floridly penned in
news:41b572f0_2@news.tm.net.my:
is it true that if cold air yields more power than normal temperated
air by the car engine. if so, i would like to modify my car aiir
intake. but before that, can anyone explain what is K&N air filter,
cold ai kit, and where & how do I install it.
Have a look at this before removing your valuable credit card from your
wallet:
http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/coldair.html
and this:
http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/faq.html#intake
--
TeGGeR®
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
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John ... don't you have a job or is your wife the real bread winner? WAY
too much time on your hands. LOL
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In observance of Pearl Harbor, feel free to
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TeGGer®
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Wed Dec 08, 2004 5:41 am Post subject:
Re: cold air intake |
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"Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> floridly penned in
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John ... don't you have a job or is your wife the real bread winner?
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She's gettin' there. She just passed her Mutual Funds Exam with 90%.
| Quote: | WAY too much time on your hands. LOL
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I like playing with Photoshop.
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Ted Johnson
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Thu Dec 09, 2004 5:42 am Post subject:
Re: cold air intake |
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Nice photos!
How'd you make those arrows, Tegger? (ie, what sw app did you use?)
| Quote: | Oh, and K&N filters have a tendency to munch MAF sensors on Toyotas.
They're expensive you know.
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And can be dangerous (hydro lock) if one drives in a rainy area.
One unexpected deep mud puddle can turn one's engine into a $5k
piece of twisted steel scupture. (Google for anecdotes)
-Ted |
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