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Wed Mar 09, 2005 12:13 am Post subject:
In-the-window antenna, '97 Crown Vic |
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I have a '97 Crown Vic LX. This is the model that has the car's
antenna part of the defroster layout in the rear window -- the zig zag
at the top.
Anyway, this car came with an aftermarket radio. A JVC KD-G800, if
that makes any difference. The previous owner said that after the new
radio was put in he couldn't get any radio stations in and this
continues to be the case. The CD/MP3 player worked perfectly and
continues to do so. I tried an old whip antenna in the radio and it
brought in stations perfectly.
I was in Best Buy looking at a new radio (Pioneer FH-P5000 double DIN)
and started to talk to the sales guy. He told me that the
glass-mounted antennae are considered a power antenna and they have a
seperate power hook-up which must be attached to the 12 volt lead on
the radio or I won't get any stations. I can almost see the legitimacy
of this but not quite.
When I took the radio out to check for the power antenna wire he
mentioned, I could find no such thing. Was he telling me a story or is
this the case? More importantly, do I have to have a special radio for
this set-up?
Any and all relevant insight is most welcome!!
Thanks,
Bob
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Wed Mar 09, 2005 4:14 am Post subject:
Re: In-the-window antenna, '97 Crown Vic |
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On 8 Mar 2005 11:13:31 -0800, BobTop@gmail.com wrote:
| Quote: | I have a '97 Crown Vic LX. This is the model that has the car's
antenna part of the defroster layout in the rear window -- the zig zag
at the top.
Anyway, this car came with an aftermarket radio. A JVC KD-G800, if
that makes any difference. The previous owner said that after the new
radio was put in he couldn't get any radio stations in and this
continues to be the case. The CD/MP3 player worked perfectly and
continues to do so. I tried an old whip antenna in the radio and it
brought in stations perfectly.
I was in Best Buy looking at a new radio (Pioneer FH-P5000 double DIN)
and started to talk to the sales guy. He told me that the
glass-mounted antennae are considered a power antenna and they have a
seperate power hook-up which must be attached to the 12 volt lead on
the radio or I won't get any stations. I can almost see the legitimacy
of this but not quite.
When I took the radio out to check for the power antenna wire he
mentioned, I could find no such thing. Was he telling me a story or is
this the case? More importantly, do I have to have a special radio for
this set-up?
Any and all relevant insight is most welcome!!
Thanks,
Bob
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was his name jim warman?
the guy is full of crap
buy after market power antenna
run a wires
trhe seperate wire is power ant wire
it is on back of your sterio
hurc ast
hurc ast |
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Father Guido
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Wed Mar 09, 2005 7:56 am Post subject:
Re: In-the-window antenna, '97 Crown Vic |
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On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 04:39:41 GMT, fred@usenet.com wrote:
~On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 23:33:03 -0500, Tom Adkins
~<newton5@remove.comcast.net> wrote:
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~>BobTop@gmail.com wrote:
~>> I have a '97 Crown Vic LX. This is the model that has the car's
~>> antenna part of the defroster layout in the rear window -- the zig
zag
~>> at the top.
~>>
~>> Anyway, this car came with an aftermarket radio. A JVC KD-G800,
if
~>> that makes any difference. The previous owner said that after the
new
~>> radio was put in he couldn't get any radio stations in and this
~>> continues to be the case. The CD/MP3 player worked perfectly and
~>> continues to do so. I tried an old whip antenna in the radio and
it
~>> brought in stations perfectly.
~>>
~>> I was in Best Buy looking at a new radio (Pioneer FH-P5000 double
DIN)
~>> and started to talk to the sales guy. He told me that the
~>> glass-mounted antennae are considered a power antenna and they
have a
~>> seperate power hook-up which must be attached to the 12 volt lead
on
~>> the radio or I won't get any stations. I can almost see the
legitimacy
~>> of this but not quite.
~>>
~>> When I took the radio out to check for the power antenna wire he
~>> mentioned, I could find no such thing. Was he telling me a story
or is
~>> this the case? More importantly, do I have to have a special
radio for
~>> this set-up?
~>>
~>> Any and all relevant insight is most welcome!!
~>>
~>> Thanks,
~>> Bob
~>>
~> Bob,
~> The original "radio" in your instrument panel is just a remote
head unit, kind of
~>like the remote control on your TV. The actual "radio" is in the
trunk. I think that's
~>your main problem, that's where the antenna cable goes. There is a
unit between the
~>window and the rear module, but IIRC it doesn't amplify the signal.
Your aftermarket
~>radio probably needs the antenna input directly to the unit in the
instrument panel.
~>You should be able to locate an extension cable locally to route the
cable "up front".
~>The reason for locating the RF\AF chassis away from the head unit
was to deter theft
~>of the entire radio, the unit in the instrument panel is useless
without the "other
~>half" in the trunk. Aftermarket installation in a modern vehicle can
be convoluted and
~>frustrating, but keep in mind; if it's hard for you, it's just as
hard for a thief.
~>
~> Tom"I've had many radios stolen"Adkins
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~
~why do they steel sterios?
~is it a craze whereu live?
~
~hurc ast
__________________________
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Tom Adkins
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Wed Mar 09, 2005 7:57 am Post subject:
Re: In-the-window antenna, '97 Crown Vic |
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BobTop@gmail.com wrote:
| Quote: | I have a '97 Crown Vic LX. This is the model that has the car's
antenna part of the defroster layout in the rear window -- the zig zag
at the top.
Anyway, this car came with an aftermarket radio. A JVC KD-G800, if
that makes any difference. The previous owner said that after the new
radio was put in he couldn't get any radio stations in and this
continues to be the case. The CD/MP3 player worked perfectly and
continues to do so. I tried an old whip antenna in the radio and it
brought in stations perfectly.
I was in Best Buy looking at a new radio (Pioneer FH-P5000 double DIN)
and started to talk to the sales guy. He told me that the
glass-mounted antennae are considered a power antenna and they have a
seperate power hook-up which must be attached to the 12 volt lead on
the radio or I won't get any stations. I can almost see the legitimacy
of this but not quite.
When I took the radio out to check for the power antenna wire he
mentioned, I could find no such thing. Was he telling me a story or is
this the case? More importantly, do I have to have a special radio for
this set-up?
Any and all relevant insight is most welcome!!
Thanks,
Bob
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The original "radio" in your instrument panel is just a remote head unit, kind of
like the remote control on your TV. The actual "radio" is in the trunk. I think that's
your main problem, that's where the antenna cable goes. There is a unit between the
window and the rear module, but IIRC it doesn't amplify the signal. Your aftermarket
radio probably needs the antenna input directly to the unit in the instrument panel.
You should be able to locate an extension cable locally to route the cable "up front".
The reason for locating the RF\AF chassis away from the head unit was to deter theft
of the entire radio, the unit in the instrument panel is useless without the "other
half" in the trunk. Aftermarket installation in a modern vehicle can be convoluted and
frustrating, but keep in mind; if it's hard for you, it's just as hard for a thief.
Tom"I've had many radios stolen"Adkins |
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Wed Mar 09, 2005 7:57 am Post subject:
Re: In-the-window antenna, '97 Crown Vic |
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On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 23:33:03 -0500, Tom Adkins
<newton5@remove.comcast.net> wrote:
| Quote: | BobTop@gmail.com wrote:
I have a '97 Crown Vic LX. This is the model that has the car's
antenna part of the defroster layout in the rear window -- the zig zag
at the top.
Anyway, this car came with an aftermarket radio. A JVC KD-G800, if
that makes any difference. The previous owner said that after the new
radio was put in he couldn't get any radio stations in and this
continues to be the case. The CD/MP3 player worked perfectly and
continues to do so. I tried an old whip antenna in the radio and it
brought in stations perfectly.
I was in Best Buy looking at a new radio (Pioneer FH-P5000 double DIN)
and started to talk to the sales guy. He told me that the
glass-mounted antennae are considered a power antenna and they have a
seperate power hook-up which must be attached to the 12 volt lead on
the radio or I won't get any stations. I can almost see the legitimacy
of this but not quite.
When I took the radio out to check for the power antenna wire he
mentioned, I could find no such thing. Was he telling me a story or is
this the case? More importantly, do I have to have a special radio for
this set-up?
Any and all relevant insight is most welcome!!
Thanks,
Bob
Bob,
The original "radio" in your instrument panel is just a remote head unit, kind of
like the remote control on your TV. The actual "radio" is in the trunk. I think that's
your main problem, that's where the antenna cable goes. There is a unit between the
window and the rear module, but IIRC it doesn't amplify the signal. Your aftermarket
radio probably needs the antenna input directly to the unit in the instrument panel.
You should be able to locate an extension cable locally to route the cable "up front".
The reason for locating the RF\AF chassis away from the head unit was to deter theft
of the entire radio, the unit in the instrument panel is useless without the "other
half" in the trunk. Aftermarket installation in a modern vehicle can be convoluted and
frustrating, but keep in mind; if it's hard for you, it's just as hard for a thief.
Tom"I've had many radios stolen"Adkins
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why do they steel sterios?
is it a craze whereu live?
hurc ast |
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Tom Adkins
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Wed Mar 09, 2005 7:57 am Post subject:
Re: In-the-window antenna, '97 Crown Vic |
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fred@usenet.com wrote:
| Quote: | On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 23:33:03 -0500, Tom Adkins
newton5@remove.comcast.net> wrote:
BobTop@gmail.com wrote:
I have a '97 Crown Vic LX. This is the model that has the car's
antenna part of the defroster layout in the rear window -- the zig zag
at the top.
Anyway, this car came with an aftermarket radio. A JVC KD-G800, if
that makes any difference. The previous owner said that after the new
radio was put in he couldn't get any radio stations in and this
continues to be the case. The CD/MP3 player worked perfectly and
continues to do so. I tried an old whip antenna in the radio and it
brought in stations perfectly.
I was in Best Buy looking at a new radio (Pioneer FH-P5000 double DIN)
and started to talk to the sales guy. He told me that the
glass-mounted antennae are considered a power antenna and they have a
seperate power hook-up which must be attached to the 12 volt lead on
the radio or I won't get any stations. I can almost see the legitimacy
of this but not quite.
When I took the radio out to check for the power antenna wire he
mentioned, I could find no such thing. Was he telling me a story or is
this the case? More importantly, do I have to have a special radio for
this set-up?
Any and all relevant insight is most welcome!!
Thanks,
Bob
Bob,
The original "radio" in your instrument panel is just a remote head unit, kind of
like the remote control on your TV. The actual "radio" is in the trunk. I think that's
your main problem, that's where the antenna cable goes. There is a unit between the
window and the rear module, but IIRC it doesn't amplify the signal. Your aftermarket
radio probably needs the antenna input directly to the unit in the instrument panel.
You should be able to locate an extension cable locally to route the cable "up front".
The reason for locating the RF\AF chassis away from the head unit was to deter theft
of the entire radio, the unit in the instrument panel is useless without the "other
half" in the trunk. Aftermarket installation in a modern vehicle can be convoluted and
frustrating, but keep in mind; if it's hard for you, it's just as hard for a thief.
Tom"I've had many radios stolen"Adkins
why do they steel sterios?
is it a craze whereu live?
hurc ast
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Yep, Kinda like me stealing your male virginity. How 'bout it hurc....damn you make me
hot!! I want you ....... |
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Paul of Dayton
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Wed Mar 09, 2005 7:57 am Post subject:
Re: In-the-window antenna, '97 Crown Vic |
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I have the same antenna on my '95 Vic. When I got the car, someone had
yanked the head unit. 2 aftermarket units did OK on FM but AM sucked. I
finally found the problem. There IS an amplifier for this antenna. It
lives under the trunk deck. It is possible to connect an antenna line to
run up front to either the lead from the antenna or from the output of the
amplifier. It must go thru the amp, first. The amp must have it's power
line attached. It does not get power from the head unit. My reception
problem was a damaged adapter from the antenna amp to the front of the car.
A new $9 adapter fixed it.
I realize your car is a couple of years newer but I expect it is very
similar. Most of the radios were just controls and a tape player up front,
the innards are in the trunk. My trunk unit is still there but it's not
connected to anything.
You might check Ebay for a Ford Factory service manual - mine paid for
itself in a few months.
Paul
<BobTop@gmail.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I have a '97 Crown Vic LX. This is the model that has the car's
antenna part of the defroster layout in the rear window -- the zig zag
at the top.
Anyway, this car came with an aftermarket radio. A JVC KD-G800, if
that makes any difference. The previous owner said that after the new
radio was put in he couldn't get any radio stations in and this
continues to be the case. The CD/MP3 player worked perfectly and
continues to do so. I tried an old whip antenna in the radio and it
brought in stations perfectly.
I was in Best Buy looking at a new radio (Pioneer FH-P5000 double DIN)
and started to talk to the sales guy. He told me that the
glass-mounted antennae are considered a power antenna and they have a
seperate power hook-up which must be attached to the 12 volt lead on
the radio or I won't get any stations. I can almost see the legitimacy
of this but not quite.
When I took the radio out to check for the power antenna wire he
mentioned, I could find no such thing. Was he telling me a story or is
this the case? More importantly, do I have to have a special radio for
this set-up?
Any and all relevant insight is most welcome!!
Thanks,
Bob
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Fri Mar 11, 2005 7:06 pm Post subject:
Re: In-the-window antenna, '97 Crown Vic |
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"Paul of Dayton" <F_an...@NOSPAMameritech.net> imparted this bit of
wisdom:
news:1110309211.437567.262680@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | I have the same antenna on my '95 Vic. When I got the car, someone
had
yanked the head unit. 2 aftermarket units did OK on FM but AM sucked.
I
finally found the problem. There IS an amplifier for this antenna.
It
lives under the trunk deck. It is possible to connect an antenna line
to
run up front to either the lead from the antenna or from the output of
the
amplifier. It must go thru the amp, first. The amp must have it's
power
line attached. It does not get power from the head unit. My
reception
problem was a damaged adapter from the antenna amp to the front of the
car.
A new $9 adapter fixed it.
I realize your car is a couple of years newer but I expect it is very
similar. Most of the radios were just controls and a tape player up
front,
the innards are in the trunk. My trunk unit is still there but it's
not
connected to anything.
You might check Ebay for a Ford Factory service manual - mine paid for
itself in a few months.
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Thanks for that tip, Paul! I did find what I think to be the location
of the antenna amp in the trunk. In there, on the passenger side,
behind a panel, there is a plug with three wires. There isn't anything
plugged into it, though, so I suspect that's where the amp was removed.
The wire from the antenna assembly there to the front of the car is
still there. There is an antenna plug in the front where the radio is
(and is plugged into the radio).
Do you remember where you got this adapter? It might be the solution
to a very vexing problem!!
I'm also going to be picking up a service manual for the car. I've had
one for every car I've owned and I agree about their value!
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Paul of Dayton
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Sat Mar 12, 2005 8:48 pm Post subject:
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Just about any decent aftermarket hi-fi store should have one. The kit got
actually had two adapters, I needed both to make the connection. I don't
think it was much over $12. Heck, you might even find it at walmart - but
try to go to an independant car audio shop - the small guys need the
business and will probably even offer advice.
Paul
<BobTop@gmail.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | "Paul of Dayton" <F_an...@NOSPAMameritech.net> imparted this bit of
wisdom:
news:1110309211.437567.262680@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
I have the same antenna on my '95 Vic. When I got the car, someone
had
yanked the head unit. 2 aftermarket units did OK on FM but AM sucked.
I
finally found the problem. There IS an amplifier for this antenna.
It
lives under the trunk deck. It is possible to connect an antenna line
to
run up front to either the lead from the antenna or from the output of
the
amplifier. It must go thru the amp, first. The amp must have it's
power
line attached. It does not get power from the head unit. My
reception
problem was a damaged adapter from the antenna amp to the front of the
car.
A new $9 adapter fixed it.
I realize your car is a couple of years newer but I expect it is very
similar. Most of the radios were just controls and a tape player up
front,
the innards are in the trunk. My trunk unit is still there but it's
not
connected to anything.
You might check Ebay for a Ford Factory service manual - mine paid for
itself in a few months.
Thanks for that tip, Paul! I did find what I think to be the location
of the antenna amp in the trunk. In there, on the passenger side,
behind a panel, there is a plug with three wires. There isn't anything
plugged into it, though, so I suspect that's where the amp was removed.
The wire from the antenna assembly there to the front of the car is
still there. There is an antenna plug in the front where the radio is
(and is plugged into the radio).
Do you remember where you got this adapter? It might be the solution
to a very vexing problem!!
I'm also going to be picking up a service manual for the car. I've had
one for every car I've owned and I agree about their value!
Thanks again!
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