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JJ
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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 2:06 am    Post subject: Wow! Reply with quote

I've owned 4 wheel drive SUV's....but we just had a horrible ice storm
yesterday morning. I drove my 03 A4 AWD 21 miles to work......I couldn't
believe how my vehicle didn't slip or slide at all. This is with performance
tires too!!!! Very impressed!

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Douglas Siebert
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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 2:06 am    Post subject: Re: Wow! Reply with quote

"Pete" <escape2music@hotmail.com> writes:


Quote:
"JJ" wrote
I've owned 4 wheel drive SUV's....but we just had a horrible ice storm
yesterday morning. I drove my 03 A4 AWD 21 miles to work......I
couldn't believe how my vehicle didn't slip or slide at all. This is
with performance tires too!!!! Very impressed!

Please don't tell me you drove on summer tires. That wasn't very smart.


I honestly haven't had any problems driving my A4Q on the summer tires.
I guess since I grew up where it snows every winter I learned how to
drive with rear wheel drive vehicles with old half bald tires, so having
4WD even on summer tires is great. It isn't as if I'd suddenly be able
to (or want to) drive really fast in the snow if I had all seasons or
snow tires.

It is kind of annoying that if you get the sport package they force the
summer tires on you, it would have been nice to have the choice to get
some all season tires instead. But given that it'd be $1000 for even
fairly cheap rims and tires for the winter, when there's only real
quantities of snow on the roads about a dozen days during the winter
here in SE Iowa, it just wasn't worth it. If I lived in a place like
Buffalo where it snows all the time, or had a long commute to work each
day, I'd probably feel differently. Or perhaps if I lived somewhere
like Atlanta, where I'd want my car to really handle well to avoid all
the idiots who have no idea how to drive on snow since it only happens
every few years :)

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Douglas Siebert dsiebert@excisethis.khamsin.net

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" -- Thomas Jefferson
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Pete
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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 2:09 am    Post subject: Re: Wow! Reply with quote

"JJ" wrote
Quote:
I've owned 4 wheel drive SUV's....but we just had a horrible ice storm
yesterday morning. I drove my 03 A4 AWD 21 miles to work......I
couldn't believe how my vehicle didn't slip or slide at all. This is
with performance tires too!!!! Very impressed!

Please don't tell me you drove on summer tires. That wasn't very smart.

Cheers,

Pete

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Ronny
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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 4:20 am    Post subject: Re: Wow! Reply with quote

"Douglas Siebert" <dsiebert@excisethis.khamsin.net> wrote in message
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"Pete" <escape2music@hotmail.com> writes:


"JJ" wrote
I've owned 4 wheel drive SUV's....but we just had a horrible ice storm
yesterday morning. I drove my 03 A4 AWD 21 miles to work......I
couldn't believe how my vehicle didn't slip or slide at all. This is
with performance tires too!!!! Very impressed!

Please don't tell me you drove on summer tires. That wasn't very smart.


I honestly haven't had any problems driving my A4Q on the summer tires.
I guess since I grew up where it snows every winter I learned how to
drive with rear wheel drive vehicles with old half bald tires, so having
4WD even on summer tires is great. It isn't as if I'd suddenly be able
to (or want to) drive really fast in the snow if I had all seasons or
snow tires.

It is kind of annoying that if you get the sport package they force the
summer tires on you, it would have been nice to have the choice to get
some all season tires instead. But given that it'd be $1000 for even
fairly cheap rims and tires for the winter, when there's only real
quantities of snow on the roads about a dozen days during the winter
here in SE Iowa, it just wasn't worth it. If I lived in a place like
Buffalo where it snows all the time, or had a long commute to work each
day, I'd probably feel differently. Or perhaps if I lived somewhere
like Atlanta, where I'd want my car to really handle well to avoid all
the idiots who have no idea how to drive on snow since it only happens
every few years :)

--
Douglas Siebert dsiebert@excisethis.khamsin.net

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" -- Thomas Jefferson

I've driven my A4 quattro on summer tires every year and have no problems at
all, it stops fine, and pulls like its on tarmac, if you have real expensive
summer tires then I would imagine it might be different but the amount of
snow we get in the UK is minimal so it's not really an issue.

If you drive it like it nutter in the snow you will crash it, it doesnt
matter if you use summer/allseason/winter.
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Pete
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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 2:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Wow! Reply with quote

"Ronny" wrote
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I've driven my A4 quattro on summer tires every year and have no problems
at
all, it stops fine, and pulls like its on tarmac, if you have real
expensive
summer tires then I would imagine it might be different but the amount of
snow we get in the UK is minimal so it's not really an issue.

Yeah, I guess it all depends. Out here in Poland, we don't get that much
snow either, but all it takes is one snow storm and one accident, and
suddenly you realize that not having the proper tires is very expensive,
quattro or not. Driving on my summer Bridgestone S-03s during winter wasn't
fun. They become very hard (like hockey pucks), and only grip ok in the
dry. In the wet or snow they're terrible since they don't have the sipes
that help bite into the snow/slush. I can still get going without a problem
because of quattro, but stopping and turning becomes very cumbersome.

Cheers,

Pete
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Dan Koren
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Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 2:05 am    Post subject: Re: Wow! Reply with quote

"Pete" <escape2music@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Out here in Poland, we don't get that much snow
either, but all it takes is one snow storm and
one accident, and suddenly you realize that not
having the proper tires is very expensive, quattro
or not. Driving on my summer Bridgestone S-03s
during winter wasn't fun. They become very hard
(like hockey pucks), and only grip ok in the dry.
In the wet or snow they're terrible since they
don't have the sipes that help bite into the
snow/slush. I can still get going without a
problem because of quattro, but stopping and
turning becomes very cumbersome.



If you live in Poland, you should treat yourself
to a set of Nokia Hakkapeliitta 4! (not available
in the US). They are awesome!

I use the earlier Hak 2's on my A4's (without the
studs since I also drive in dry areas) and they
are the best winter tires (other than the Hak 4's)
I have ever used.



dk
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Dan Koren
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Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 2:07 am    Post subject: Re: Wow! Reply with quote

"Ronny" <ronny@nospamfsplanes.net> wrote in message
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If you drive it like it nutter in the snow
you will crash it, it doesnt matter if you
use summer/allseason/winter.



What exactly do you mean by "nutter"?

Driving recklessly? Or simply fast?



dk
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Pete
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Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 2:59 am    Post subject: Re: Wow! Reply with quote

"Dan Koren" wrote
Quote:
If you live in Poland, you should treat yourself
to a set of Nokia Hakkapeliitta 4! (not available
in the US). They are awesome!

Well, they're probably too hardcore for me. :-) We don't get that much
snow. Most of the time the roads are clear during winter, and I live in
the city - don't hit snow-covered country roads at all. I'll probably
get Nokian WR next time though.

Cheers,

Pete
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Dan Koren
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Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 6:12 am    Post subject: Re: Wow! Reply with quote

"Pete" <escape2music@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Quote:

"Dan Koren" wrote
If you live in Poland, you should treat yourself
to a set of Nokia Hakkapeliitta 4! (not available
in the US). They are awesome!

Well, they're probably too hardcore for me. :-) We don't get that much
snow. Most of the time the roads are clear during winter, and I live in
the city - don't hit snow-covered country roads at all. I'll probably
get Nokian WR next time though.



I've had WR's (and the earlier NRW's)
and used them year round. Great tires.



dk
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