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Muhammed Mustafo Goldstei
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Mon Dec 05, 2005 9:16 am Post subject:
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Why does Japan not allow US autos to be imported to there country? Yet they
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Truckdude
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Mon Dec 05, 2005 9:16 am Post subject:
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"Allow"? I'll bet it has more to do with demand. We want their cars, but
they don't want ours. Why would they? |
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John Horner
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Mon Dec 05, 2005 9:16 am Post subject:
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They do allow it, and a several years ago Toyota and GM made a big fuss
about exporting one of the Chevrolet models (I forget which one) in
right hand drive format from the US to Japan ... the big problem was
that almost nobody bought it.
The project died quietly.
John
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Steve T
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Mon Dec 05, 2005 9:16 am Post subject:
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| Quote: | We want their cars, but
they don't want ours. Why would they?
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Exactly
This was like when Motorola was bitching about this same thing, saying they
wouldn't buy our products. Then someone there pointed out how crappy the
Motorola cell phones they were talking about really were and FINALLY
someone at Motorola got off their butt and started making high quality ones
and they actually started selling them outside the US.
Imagine that, quality sells?
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NoNoBadDog!
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Mon Dec 05, 2005 9:16 am Post subject:
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Two reasons;
First, Japanese cars do not have to meet the crash safety requirements
that US cars must meet.
Because of the extra safety features, American cars are very heavy and not
very fuel efficient.
In addition, the cost of an American made vehicle is disproportionately high
in Japan. Why would they buy an American Car when they can get a similar
Japanese model at much less cost?
Also, Japan does not require the use of Unleaded gas, so the Catalytic
Converter and ECU are again an unnecessary expense, and unleaded gas is
harder to find in Japan.
Having said that, it is common to see European cars in most large Japanese
cities.
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Darrell with DieselBenz.i
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Mon Dec 05, 2005 8:43 pm Post subject:
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*MAYBE* they are literate and read stuff like their equivalent consumer
reviews and find out that American cars are about 15 years behind
japanese reliability in problems per cars? If you were in Japan, why
would you pay more for a less reliable car?
Muhammed Mustafo Goldstein Jr wrote:
| Quote: | Why does Japan not allow US autos to be imported to there country? Yet they
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Dan J.S.
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Mon Dec 05, 2005 11:12 pm Post subject:
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| Quote: | Why does Japan not allow US autos to be imported to there country? Yet
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Because their highway systems do not allow for pulled over cars. I kid you
not. Importing American cars would create clogs on the highways - since they
would break more often. |
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Peter Hill
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Mon Dec 05, 2005 11:19 pm Post subject:
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| Quote: | Why does Japan not allow US autos to be imported to there country? Yet they
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Does America even allow the use of RHD vehicles? I thought all
Skylines had to be converted to cack hand drive for use in the USA. UK
allows LHD as they have vistors from Europe. I'm not sure if Japan
permits LHD.
Same reason they don't sell many cars in the UK, Australia and New
Zealand. US car makers aren't bothered about exports, if they were
they would make RHD versions. Cack hand drive cars incur a big
insurance hit in the UK as they have limited driver vison in narrow
twisty English lanes, the width means you are much more likely to find
you don't fit though a gap resulting in a trading of paint. Low
volume imports incur a big insurance hit due to poor parts
availablity, causing long repair times which gives high storage costs.
USA doesn't make cars with proper lights. Dip beam is is just a de-
foused undefined sploge of light without a proper cut off or kickup on
nearside. USA car makers can't be bothered to make proper lights for
export markets.
American cars are a liablity in crowded citys with small streets. They
tend to get stuck and/or cause gridlock. Famously Jeremy Clarkson of
the TV show Top Gear found the Ford GT won't fit over Hammersmith
Bridge the hard way, caused a such massive traffic jam while doing a
21 point turn that it got reported on the traffic news.
Tokyo has laws about car size. Big cars get more highly taxed. Unless
you have a micro car under a set size you have to have an off road car
parking place for the car and land prices are skyhigh so they have to
be rich to own a big car. The rich Japanese like the rich American
prefers a Merc or other premium European car, helps that they sell
cars in the UK so they make RHD cars. |
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Greywolf
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Mon Dec 05, 2005 11:28 pm Post subject:
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| Quote: | Does America even allow the use of RHD vehicles?
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Yes. They are very popular with rural mail carriers who need to work
roadside mailboxes. A had a friend who bought a RHD 4WD Subaru for just that
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R Flowers
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Mon Dec 05, 2005 11:43 pm Post subject:
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| Quote: | Because their highway systems do not allow for pulled over cars. I kid
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not. Importing American cars would create clogs on the highways - since
they would break more often.
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OK, Japanese models are good, but they're not perfect. What happens if HAVE
to pull over? I mean, maybe the timing belt goes, and you don't have the
option of getting to another exit? I don't know what the highways are like
in Japan.
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R Flowers
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Dan J.S.
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Tue Dec 06, 2005 12:09 am Post subject:
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| Quote: | OK, Japanese models are good, but they're not perfect. What happens if
HAVE to pull over? I mean, maybe the timing belt goes, and you don't have
the option of getting to another exit? I don't know what the highways are
like in Japan.
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You get a fine. Around for $500 or so... I lived there for 4 years. In
Japan, they make it very cost prohibitive to own your car for more than 5
years. They have these really expensive inspection starting at year two of
your car and then every year. These inspections cost 2 to 3 thousand
dollars. They go over everything. |
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C. E. White
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Tue Dec 06, 2005 1:34 am Post subject:
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| Quote: | Why does Japan not allow US autos to be imported to there country? Yet
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You might as well ask why the Japanese don't import clothes made in the US,
why they restrict imports of US fruits, US beef, just about anything. The
Japanese have always maintained non-tariff barriers to imports. They used
these barrier to foster a Japanese domestic car industry.
Of course in most cases American cars are not suited to the Japanese market.
American manufacters don't attempt to tailor models to Japanese markets. The
Japanese on the other hand do tailor models to the US market. In the past US
automakers have generally set-up foreign sbusiduaries to assemble and sell
vehicles in foreign markets. The Japanese government discouraged this in
Japan.
Even today realtively few foreign built cars are imported in Japan. Less
than 300,000 in recent years. In recent years these have mostly been high
end European cars, but some US cars are still imported into Japan. At the
peak in 1996, around 439,000 cars were imported into Japan - over half of
these were US brands.
http://www.jama.org/statistics/motorvehicle/imports/mv_imports_make.htm
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Johnny Hageyama
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Tue Dec 06, 2005 1:39 am Post subject:
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Muhammed Mustafo Goldstein Jr wrote:
| Quote: | Why does Japan not allow US autos to be imported to there country?
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They do, as all the American cars my relatives and the Yakuza (mob)
have bought since at least the 1950s prove. But until the 1980s or
1990s car imports were greatly restricted, both by the government and
by the largest distributor of imported cars, who favored high markup
and low volume over low markup and high volume. My guess is that
there are currently far more German than American cars sold in Japan. |
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Johnny Hageyama
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Tue Dec 06, 2005 1:51 am Post subject:
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NoNoBadDog! wrote:
| Quote: | Two reasons;
First, Japanese cars do not have to meet the crash safety requirements
that US cars must meet. Because of the extra safety features, American
cars are very heavy and not very fuel efficient.
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I don't know what their safety requirements are, but I find that very
hard to believe because Japan has tended to imitate the U.S. in matters
of safety and pollution, and back in the 1980s someone there received a
great deal of press by claiming that the cars submitted for crash
testing were beefed-up versions of what was sold on the market.
However if that was true, then it must have been done to the cars
submitted for U.S. crash testing, which I doubt. Also ever since the
1970s Toyota has had its own standard for fuel tank safety, requiring
them to remain intact even in an approximately 35 MPH rear crash.
| Quote: | In addition, the cost of an American made vehicle is disproportionately high
in Japan. Why would they buy an American Car when they can get a similar
Japanese model at much less cost?
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It was a mistake for U.S. makers to market small, fuel-efficient cars
in Japan because the country is full of them. Instead they should have
pushed cars like the Mustang, Corvette, Trans Am, and Cadillacs, rather
than the Toyota Cavalier (Chevy Cavalier).
| Quote: | Also, Japan does not require the use of Unleaded gas, so the Catalytic
Converter and ECU are again an unnecessary expense, and unleaded gas is
harder to find in Japan.
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I don't know if it's practical to meet Japanese emissions standards
without catalysts and unleaded gas because their standards are
virtually identical to ours. But I doubt it is, and almost every car
sold there since the early-mid 1980s has been equipped with both a
catalyst and an engine management computer to cut pollution. It was
Europe that was late in adopting strict pollution laws and these
devices. |
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Hachiroku
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Tue Dec 06, 2005 6:42 am Post subject:
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| Quote: | Why does Japan not allow US autos to be imported to there country? Yet they
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Where did you get this misinformation?
I you had your choice of all the models of Japanese cars sold in the UIS,
plus many, many others not sold anywhere but in the Japan, why on EARTH
would you want to drive an American car?
It's not the government, it's the market.
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