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Ethan
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Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 8:19 am    Post subject: Power window failure in 1997 Taurus Reply with quote

The front driver's side power window stopped working on our 1997 Taurus, and
in the down position. All other windows still work, as well as all other
electrical things as far as I can tell. I've checked fuses and the relay
that is supposed to be associated with that window, although I don't know
what a bad relay is supposed to look like. Any guess on the most likely
culprit?

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Backyard Mechanic
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Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 8:40 am    Post subject: Re: Power window failure in 1997 Taurus Reply with quote

"Ethan" <ethan448@NOSOLICITINGyahoo.com> wrote:

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The front driver's side power window stopped working on our 1997
Taurus, and in the down position. All other windows still work, as
well as all other electrical things as far as I can tell. I've
checked fuses and the relay that is supposed to be associated with
that window, although I don't know what a bad relay is supposed to
look like. Any guess on the most likely culprit?

notoriously weak motors in those, all the way back to 80's.

1. if you can grasp the window at all, try to see if you can assist the
motor in bringing it up.

2. give the door a couple good slams, trying again after each. may jar
the motor just enough.

it will need to be replaced.

--
Yeh, I'm a Krusty old Geezer, putting up with my 'smartass' is the price
you pay..DEAL with it!
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Sharon K.Cooke
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Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 9:15 am    Post subject: Re: Power window failure in 1997 Taurus Reply with quote

Backyard Mechanic wrote:
Quote:

"Ethan" <ethan448@NOSOLICITINGyahoo.com> wrote:

The front driver's side power window stopped working on our 1997
Taurus, and in the down position. All other windows still work, as
well as all other electrical things as far as I can tell. I've
checked fuses and the relay that is supposed to be associated with
that window, although I don't know what a bad relay is supposed to
look like. Any guess on the most likely culprit?

notoriously weak motors in those, all the way back to 80's.

1. if you can grasp the window at all, try to see if you can assist the
motor in bringing it up.

2. give the door a couple good slams, trying again after each. may jar
the motor just enough.

it will need to be replaced.

--
Yeh, I'm a Krusty old Geezer, putting up with my 'smartass' is the price
you pay..DEAL with it!

If you can HEAR the motor, but nothing happens with the glass, just replace the
the 3 nylon rollers in the gear motor head. If you don't hear the motor at all,
try applying 12V directly to the motor leads at the motor. If the motor turns
then, it's the switch; if no movement, the motor's fried and requires
replacement for about $60.

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Ethan
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Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 9:15 am    Post subject: Re: Power window failure in 1997 Taurus Reply with quote

"Sharon K.Cooke" <scooke@cox.net> wrote in message
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Backyard Mechanic wrote:

"Ethan" <ethan448@NOSOLICITINGyahoo.com> wrote:

The front driver's side power window stopped working on our 1997
Taurus, and in the down position. All other windows still work, as
well as all other electrical things as far as I can tell. I've
checked fuses and the relay that is supposed to be associated with
that window, although I don't know what a bad relay is supposed to
look like. Any guess on the most likely culprit?

notoriously weak motors in those, all the way back to 80's.

1. if you can grasp the window at all, try to see if you can assist the
motor in bringing it up.

2. give the door a couple good slams, trying again after each. may jar
the motor just enough.

it will need to be replaced.

--
Yeh, I'm a Krusty old Geezer, putting up with my 'smartass' is the price
you pay..DEAL with it!

If you can HEAR the motor, but nothing happens with the glass, just
replace the
the 3 nylon rollers in the gear motor head. If you don't hear the motor at
all,
try applying 12V directly to the motor leads at the motor. If the motor
turns
then, it's the switch; if no movement, the motor's fried and requires
replacement for about $60.

I've tried the first suggestion--grasping the window and trying to pull it
up, and slamming the door. No luck.

No, I cannot hear the motor, just a clicking of the relay box underneath the
dashboard when I press the window up/down button. I'll try applying 12V
directly to the motor tomorrow morning, when I can see well enough to remove
the door paneling.
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Tom Adkins
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Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 9:15 am    Post subject: Re: Power window failure in 1997 Taurus Reply with quote

Ethan wrote:
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"Sharon K.Cooke" <scooke@cox.net> wrote in message
news:439266F9.2CB4E6A4@cox.net...

Backyard Mechanic wrote:

"Ethan" <ethan448@NOSOLICITINGyahoo.com> wrote:


The front driver's side power window stopped working on our 1997
Taurus, and in the down position. All other windows still work, as
well as all other electrical things as far as I can tell. I've
checked fuses and the relay that is supposed to be associated with
that window, although I don't know what a bad relay is supposed to
look like. Any guess on the most likely culprit?

notoriously weak motors in those, all the way back to 80's.

1. if you can grasp the window at all, try to see if you can assist the
motor in bringing it up.

2. give the door a couple good slams, trying again after each. may jar
the motor just enough.

it will need to be replaced.

--
Yeh, I'm a Krusty old Geezer, putting up with my 'smartass' is the price
you pay..DEAL with it!

If you can HEAR the motor, but nothing happens with the glass, just
replace the
the 3 nylon rollers in the gear motor head. If you don't hear the motor at
all,
try applying 12V directly to the motor leads at the motor. If the motor
turns
then, it's the switch; if no movement, the motor's fried and requires
replacement for about $60.


I've tried the first suggestion--grasping the window and trying to pull it
up, and slamming the door. No luck.

No, I cannot hear the motor, just a clicking of the relay box underneath the
dashboard when I press the window up/down button. I'll try applying 12V
directly to the motor tomorrow morning, when I can see well enough to remove
the door paneling.




Have the door open while trying to operate the window upward. Watch the dome light
closely while you press the window switch. If it dims slightly, the motor is "stuck".
If the light dims, rap the door hard with the side of your fist 3.or 4 times while
holding the switch in the "UP" position.. (Inside, about 6" above the bottom edge, in
the middle. Hit it like you are mad at it, really hard.. The window will probably go
up and then work normally.(You can also use a rubber mallet). Replace the window
motor. It will likely fail down again at a very inopportune moment. If you need to
save up dollars or time before replacemant, don't put the window all the way down,
leave it up 1/2" or so. The commutator inside the motor burns in one spot in the full
down position causing this problem.
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Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 11:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Power window failure in 1997 Taurus Reply with quote

"Tom Adkins" <newton5@remove.comcast.net> wrote in message
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Have the door open while trying to operate the window upward. Watch the
dome light closely while you press the window switch. If it dims slightly,
the motor is "stuck". If the light dims, rap the door hard with the side
of your fist 3.or 4 times while holding the switch in the "UP" position..
(Inside, about 6" above the bottom edge, in the middle. Hit it like you
are mad at it, really hard.. The window will probably go up and then work
normally.(You can also use a rubber mallet). Replace the window motor. It
will likely fail down again at a very inopportune moment. If you need to
save up dollars or time before replacemant, don't put the window all the
way down, leave it up 1/2" or so. The commutator inside the motor burns in
one spot in the full down position causing this problem.

Hey, great advice. It worked. Thanks.
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The One
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Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 11:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Power window failure in 1997 Taurus Reply with quote

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2. give the door a couple good slams, trying again after each. may jar
the motor just enough.

LOL
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Tom Adkins
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 2:29 am    Post subject: Re: Power window failure in 1997 Taurus Reply with quote

Ethan wrote:

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Hey, great advice. It worked. Thanks.

Great. Just don't forget to replace the motor. Murphys law says it will fail again
during the next torrential downpour or snowstorm, five minutes after the parts store
closes on a long holiday weekend.
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