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Thu Nov 17, 2005 8:57 am Post subject:
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IMPEACH BUSH:
Phosphorus 'may have killed' in Iraq
By Guy Dinmore in Washington
Published: November 16 2005 23:39 | Last updated: November 16 2005
23:39
US IraqThe US military on Wednesday acknowledged it might have killed
civilians in the Iraqi city of Falluja with white phosphorus munitions
during the battle against insurgents a year ago.
The Pentagon insisted civilians had not been targeted, however, and
that it had avoided unnecessary casualties by evacuating the city
before the offensive.
White phosphorus, which is fired by artillery or mortars, can be used
as an incendiary device or to create a smokescreen.
While it is not classified as a chemical weapon, the chemical is
covered by Protocol III of the 1980 Convention on Conventional Weapons,
which prohibits the use of incendiary weapons against military forces
located within concentrations of civilians - as was the case with the
insurgents in Falluja. The US is party to the convention but, unlike a
number of its allies, including the UK, it has not signed Protocol III.
Last week, Italy's Rai 24 news channel broadcast a documentary that
alleged many civilians had been burned to death by the incendiary
devices during the assault. It showed bodies burned to the bone inside
clothes that remained intact.
Narmin Uthman, Iraq's acting human rights minister, said an Iraqi
team would investigate the claims.
"The documentary offers no compelling evidence as to how the people
in the various images actually died," Lieutenant-Colonel Barry
Venable, a Pentagon spokesman, told the FT. He said he was not aware of
any US inquiry into the issue.
Asked if it was possible civilians had been killed by white phosphorus,
he replied: "It would not be out of the realm of the possible."
The UK defence ministry said the British army only used white
phosphorus for smokescreens.
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badgolferman
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Thu Nov 17, 2005 9:18 am Post subject:
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Learning Richard, 11/16/2005,9:57:17 PM, wrote:
Here we go again...
| Quote: | Phosphorus 'may have killed' in Iraq
By Guy Dinmore in Washington
Published: November 16 2005 23:39 | Last updated: November 16 2005
23:39
US IraqThe US military on Wednesday acknowledged it might have killed
civilians in the Iraqi city of Falluja with white phosphorus munitions
during the battle against insurgents a year ago.
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Look at the way this is written. Who the hell published this? Where
is the link?
| Quote: | The Pentagon insisted civilians had not been targeted, however, and
that it had avoided unnecessary casualties by evacuating the city
before the offensive.
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They were told to get out. It's their problem if they want to harbor
the mercenaries.
| Quote: | Asked if it was possible civilians had been killed by white
phosphorus, he replied: "It would not be out of the realm of the
possible."
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This is your smoking gun? Of course he's got to cover his ass somehow.
What if he denied it and they found out a soldier lit a match to smoke
and some of the phosphorus from the match burned someone?
Fallujah should have been burned with someting more incindiary than
white phosphorus. |
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Learning Richard
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Thu Nov 17, 2005 9:18 am Post subject:
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Learning Richard wrote:
| Quote: | badgolferman wrote:
Learning Richard, 11/16/2005,9:57:17 PM, wrote:
IMPEACH BUSH:
Here we go again...
Phosphorus 'may have killed' in Iraq
By Guy Dinmore in Washington
Published: November 16 2005 23:39 | Last updated: November 16 2005
23:39
US IraqThe US military on Wednesday acknowledged it might have killed
civilians in the Iraqi city of Falluja with white phosphorus munitions
during the battle against insurgents a year ago.
Look at the way this is written. Who the hell published this? Where
is the link?
oops left that part out
http://news.ft.com/cms/s/5fc7a7b4-56f9-11da-b98c-00000e25118c,dwp_uuid=c1a5b968-e1ed-11d7-81c6-0820abe49a01.html
but there are going to be thousands of links by noon tomorrow ;)
The Pentagon insisted civilians had not been targeted, however, and
that it had avoided unnecessary casualties by evacuating the city
before the offensive.
They were told to get out. It's their problem if they want to harbor
the mercenaries.
heh... yeah tell that to the skeletons of children who had their skin
cooked off by white phosphorous.
Asked if it was possible civilians had been killed by white
phosphorus, he replied: "It would not be out of the realm of the
possible."
This is your smoking gun? Of course he's got to cover his ass somehow.
uh huh.... your kids ?
What if he denied it and they found out a soldier lit a match to smoke
and some of the phosphorus from the match burned someone?
what?
Fallujah should have been burned with someting more incindiary than
white phosphorus.
Sieg Heil?
Ironic, isn't it? They should consult with "Chemical Ali" next time.
Wanna see pics of the skeletons? Goto google news:
http://news.google.com/news?q=phosphorous
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dammit
http://news.google.com/news?q=phosphorus
that will get even better results.
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Learning Richard
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Thu Nov 17, 2005 9:18 am Post subject:
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badgolferman wrote:
| Quote: | Learning Richard, 11/16/2005,9:57:17 PM, wrote:
IMPEACH BUSH:
Here we go again...
Phosphorus 'may have killed' in Iraq
By Guy Dinmore in Washington
Published: November 16 2005 23:39 | Last updated: November 16 2005
23:39
US IraqThe US military on Wednesday acknowledged it might have killed
civilians in the Iraqi city of Falluja with white phosphorus munitions
during the battle against insurgents a year ago.
Look at the way this is written. Who the hell published this? Where
is the link?
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oops left that part out
http://news.ft.com/cms/s/5fc7a7b4-56f9-11da-b98c-00000e25118c,dwp_uuid=c1a5b968-e1ed-11d7-81c6-0820abe49a01.html
but there are going to be thousands of links by noon tomorrow ;)
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The Pentagon insisted civilians had not been targeted, however, and
that it had avoided unnecessary casualties by evacuating the city
before the offensive.
They were told to get out. It's their problem if they want to harbor
the mercenaries.
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heh... yeah tell that to the skeletons of children who had their skin
cooked off by white phosphorous.
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Asked if it was possible civilians had been killed by white
phosphorus, he replied: "It would not be out of the realm of the
possible."
This is your smoking gun? Of course he's got to cover his ass somehow.
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uh huh.... your kids ?
| Quote: | What if he denied it and they found out a soldier lit a match to smoke
and some of the phosphorus from the match burned someone?
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what?
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Fallujah should have been burned with someting more incindiary than
white phosphorus.
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Sieg Heil?
Ironic, isn't it? They should consult with "Chemical Ali" next time.
Wanna see pics of the skeletons? Goto google news:
http://news.google.com/news?q=phosphorous |
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Mark
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Thu Nov 17, 2005 9:18 am Post subject:
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Tell your doc to work up a new prescription Rich... this latest one
seemed to hold some promise back around Veterans Day, but you've had a
bad relapse... |
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hbuck
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Thu Nov 17, 2005 6:38 pm Post subject:
Re: OT BUSH BURNS IRAQI CIVILIANS TO DEATH WITH PHOSPHOROUS |
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| Quote: | by "Learning Richard" ><learningrichard@gmail.com> Nov 16, 2005 at 06:57
PM |
| Quote: | IMPEACH BUSH:
Phosphorus 'may have killed' in Iraq
By Guy Dinmore in Washington
Published: November 16 2005 23:39 | Last >updated: November 16 2005
23:39
US IraqThe US military on Wednesday acknowledged >it might have killed
civilians in the Iraqi city of Falluja with >white phosphorus munitions
during the battle against insurgents a year ago.
The Pentagon insisted civilians had not been >targeted, however, and
that it had avoided unnecessary casualties by >evacuating the city
before the offensive.
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They EVACUATED
| Quote: | White phosphorus, which is fired by artillery or >mortars, can be used
as an incendiary device or to create a >smokescreen.
While it is not classified as a chemical weapon, >the chemical is
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NOT CLASSIFIED AS CHEMICAL WEAPON
| Quote: | covered by Protocol III of the 1980 Convention >on Conventional Weapons,
which prohibits the use of incendiary weapons >against military forces
located within concentrations of civilians - as >was the case with the
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Thats why they EVACUATED
| Quote: | insurgents in Falluja. The US is party to the >convention but, unlike a
number of its allies, including the UK, it has >not signed Protocol III.
Last week, Italy's Rai 24 news channel broadcast >a documentary that
alleged many civilians had been burned to death >by the incendiary
devices during the assault. It >showed bodies burned to the bone inside
clothes that remained intact.
Narmin Uthman, Iraq's acting human rights >minister, said an Iraqi
team would investigate the claims.
"The documentary offers no compelling evidence >as to how the people
in the various images actually died," Lieutenant->Colonel Barry Venable,
a Pentagon spokesman, >told the FT. He said he was not aware of
any US inquiry into the issue.
Asked if it was possible civilians had been >killed by white phosphorus,
he replied: "It would not be out of the realm of >the possible."
The UK defence ministry said the British army >only used white
phosphorus for smokescreens.
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Children dying this way bothers me.
But I blame the adults. They were given the opportunity to evacuate but
they did not. 200,000 did safely leave. If it were me I certainly would
have. Would'nt any of us for the sake of your child? Any of the adults who
stayed must have been hardcore insurgents or their family members.
Next they cut off their water, electricity, food supplies. Still they
stayed. Is it possible they were not allowed to go?
Our military could not know these people were still there.
Next came 8 weeks of bombings.
Before any of this they tried talks.The insurgents would have none of it.
Lastly the gloves were pulled off and Phosphorous was used to flush
insurgents into the open and taken out with High Energy explosions.
By law phosphorous may be used as an insindiary device against the enemy
but not intentionally on civilians. Clearly here it was not.
Tragic.
-hbuck |
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Mike Hunter
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Thu Nov 17, 2005 9:14 pm Post subject:
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Did they wear signs to indicate whom was a combatant and whom was a
civilian, or are terrorist wearing uniforms now a days? LOL
mike hunt
"Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | IMPEACH BUSH:
Phosphorus 'may have killed' in Iraq
By Guy Dinmore in Washington
Published: November 16 2005 23:39 | Last updated: November 16 2005
23:39
US IraqThe US military on Wednesday acknowledged it might have killed
civilians in the Iraqi city of Falluja with white phosphorus munitions
during the battle against insurgents a year ago.
The Pentagon insisted civilians had not been targeted, however, and
that it had avoided unnecessary casualties by evacuating the city
before the offensive.
White phosphorus, which is fired by artillery or mortars, can be used
as an incendiary device or to create a smokescreen.
While it is not classified as a chemical weapon, the chemical is
covered by Protocol III of the 1980 Convention on Conventional Weapons,
which prohibits the use of incendiary weapons against military forces
located within concentrations of civilians - as was the case with the
insurgents in Falluja. The US is party to the convention but, unlike a
number of its allies, including the UK, it has not signed Protocol III.
Last week, Italy's Rai 24 news channel broadcast a documentary that
alleged many civilians had been burned to death by the incendiary
devices during the assault. It showed bodies burned to the bone inside
clothes that remained intact.
Narmin Uthman, Iraq's acting human rights minister, said an Iraqi
team would investigate the claims.
"The documentary offers no compelling evidence as to how the people
in the various images actually died," Lieutenant-Colonel Barry
Venable, a Pentagon spokesman, told the FT. He said he was not aware of
any US inquiry into the issue.
Asked if it was possible civilians had been killed by white phosphorus,
he replied: "It would not be out of the realm of the possible."
The UK defence ministry said the British army only used white
phosphorus for smokescreens.
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Mike Hunter
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Thu Nov 17, 2005 9:22 pm Post subject:
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Why do you guys even bother to reply to the loonies? As usual little
richard tells only half the story. Phosphorus has been used for more than
60 years by the military in one form to light the night sky or in another to
produce cover smoke. Next thing you know the kooks on the left will say the
military is in violation of the pollution laws by using its bombs. LOL
mike hunt
"hbuck" <hbuck@nadaspam.breakthru.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | by "Learning Richard" ><learningrichard@gmail.com> Nov 16, 2005 at 06:57
PM
IMPEACH BUSH:
Phosphorus 'may have killed' in Iraq
By Guy Dinmore in Washington
Published: November 16 2005 23:39 | Last >updated: November 16 2005
23:39
US IraqThe US military on Wednesday acknowledged >it might have killed
civilians in the Iraqi city of Falluja with >white phosphorus munitions
during the battle against insurgents a year ago.
The Pentagon insisted civilians had not been >targeted, however, and
that it had avoided unnecessary casualties by >evacuating the city
before the offensive.
They EVACUATED
White phosphorus, which is fired by artillery or >mortars, can be used
as an incendiary device or to create a >smokescreen.
While it is not classified as a chemical weapon, >the chemical is
NOT CLASSIFIED AS CHEMICAL WEAPON
covered by Protocol III of the 1980 Convention >on Conventional Weapons,
which prohibits the use of incendiary weapons >against military forces
located within concentrations of civilians - as >was the case with the
Thats why they EVACUATED
insurgents in Falluja. The US is party to the >convention but, unlike a
number of its allies, including the UK, it has >not signed Protocol III.
Last week, Italy's Rai 24 news channel broadcast >a documentary that
alleged many civilians had been burned to death >by the incendiary
devices during the assault. It >showed bodies burned to the bone inside
clothes that remained intact.
Narmin Uthman, Iraq's acting human rights >minister, said an Iraqi
team would investigate the claims.
"The documentary offers no compelling evidence >as to how the people
in the various images actually died," Lieutenant->Colonel Barry Venable,
a Pentagon spokesman, >told the FT. He said he was not aware of
any US inquiry into the issue.
Asked if it was possible civilians had been >killed by white phosphorus,
he replied: "It would not be out of the realm of >the possible."
The UK defence ministry said the British army >only used white
phosphorus for smokescreens.
Children dying this way bothers me.
But I blame the adults. They were given the opportunity to evacuate but
they did not. 200,000 did safely leave. If it were me I certainly would
have. Would'nt any of us for the sake of your child? Any of the adults who
stayed must have been hardcore insurgents or their family members.
Next they cut off their water, electricity, food supplies. Still they
stayed. Is it possible they were not allowed to go?
Our military could not know these people were still there.
Next came 8 weeks of bombings.
Before any of this they tried talks.The insurgents would have none of it.
Lastly the gloves were pulled off and Phosphorous was used to flush
insurgents into the open and taken out with High Energy explosions.
By law phosphorous may be used as an insindiary device against the enemy
but not intentionally on civilians. Clearly here it was not.
Tragic.
-hbuck
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Learning Richard
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Fri Nov 18, 2005 4:01 am Post subject:
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Mike Hunter wrote:
| Quote: | Did they wear signs to indicate whom was a combatant and whom was a
civilian, or are terrorist wearing uniforms now a days? LOL
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To folks like you it doesn't matter anyway... young, old, as long as
their skin is brown right White Mike? |
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Mike Hunter
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Sat Nov 19, 2005 2:12 am Post subject:
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You are partly correct. I was willing to fight ANY of the people like that
who wanted to kill us in 1944 and I would do so today, if I was allowed, but
why would you think I would fight a person simply because he looks like me?
LOL
mike hunt
"Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Mike Hunter wrote:
Did they wear signs to indicate whom was a combatant and whom was a
civilian, or are terrorist wearing uniforms now a days? LOL
To folks like you it doesn't matter anyway... young, old, as long as
their skin is brown right White Mike?
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Mark
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It's so fun watching LR crash and burn here on a regular basis. We
should nickname him the Hindenburg... LOL |
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.dbu,
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In article <1132365044.415365.255180@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Mark" <bogusmailmark@yahoo.com> wrote:
| Quote: | It's so fun watching LR crash and burn here on a regular basis. We
should nickname him the Hindenburg... LOL
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I wonder if he throws things when he gets mad.
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