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Jack Traite
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 9:13 am    Post subject: New bulbs -- PIAA or Luminic? Reply with quote

I want to put new bulbs in my bmw. The current bulbs are dim.

the PIAA gives more "specs' on the bulb, but won't tell me how long they'll
last.

Luminic is cheaper, but give a 1 year warranty. Considering how bright they
burn, that's good.

Does anyone have any opinion for DOT legal bulbs (PIAA are, not sure about
Luminic) for bright white bulbs?

PIAA has "superwhite" and Luminic has "titanium white"

Any opinions?

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JB
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 9:13 am    Post subject: Re: New bulbs -- PIAA or Luminic? Reply with quote

"Jack Traite" <jack@noway.com> wrote in message
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I want to put new bulbs in my bmw. The current bulbs are dim.

the PIAA gives more "specs' on the bulb, but won't tell me how long
they'll
last.

Luminic is cheaper, but give a 1 year warranty. Considering how bright
they
burn, that's good.

Does anyone have any opinion for DOT legal bulbs (PIAA are, not sure about
Luminic) for bright white bulbs?

PIAA has "superwhite" and Luminic has "titanium white"

Any opinions?

Just get Osram "Silverstar" or Philips "VisionPlus" lamps. The rest are
really just snake-oil copies.

JB
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Jack Traite
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 9:27 pm    Post subject: Re: New bulbs -- PIAA or Luminic? Reply with quote

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Just get Osram "Silverstar" or Philips "VisionPlus" lamps. The rest are
really just snake-oil copies.

Thanks! There's a kid out here who's got PIAA's -- I have to admit; they are
bright; but that's compared to my old car (he's got one of those stupid coffee
can mufflered hondas).

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Gcracker
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Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 11:48 pm    Post subject: Re: New bulbs -- PIAA or Luminic? Reply with quote

PIAA is a reputable specialty bulb producer.

I wouldn't consider them "snake oil" peddlers at all.!

"Jack Traite" <jack@noway.com> wrote in message
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I want to put new bulbs in my bmw. The current bulbs are dim.

the PIAA gives more "specs' on the bulb, but won't tell me how long
they'll
last.

Luminic is cheaper, but give a 1 year warranty. Considering how bright
they
burn, that's good.

Does anyone have any opinion for DOT legal bulbs (PIAA are, not sure about
Luminic) for bright white bulbs?

PIAA has "superwhite" and Luminic has "titanium white"

Any opinions?
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Malt_Hound
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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 7:08 pm    Post subject: Re: New bulbs -- PIAA or Luminic? Reply with quote

Gcracker wrote:
Quote:
PIAA is a reputable specialty bulb producer.

I wouldn't consider them "snake oil" peddlers at all.!


Reputable? perhaps. Snake oil? Perhaps not. But they certainly do
run fast and loose with the marketing hyperbole...

They claim their bulbs are brighter. One would infer this means that
they put out more quantity of light than a standard halogen. They do
not, at least not by any appreciable amount. By changing the gas
mixture in the bulb envelope, the filament burns hotter which makes it
put out a whiter color of light than standard halogen bulbs. Like when
you are doing your laundry, it can be said to be "brighter" because it's
whiter. Does it actually give you improved night vision, which afterall
is the whole point of automotive lighting? Probably not.

And the prices they demand for their hyped up bulbs is ridiculous IMO.


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-Fred W
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mattinro
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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 2:52 am    Post subject: Re: New bulbs -- PIAA or Luminic? Reply with quote

those are called sH1t cans
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John Carrier
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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 4:14 am    Post subject: Re: New bulbs -- PIAA or Luminic? Reply with quote

"Malt_Hound" <""Malt_Hound\"@*spam-me not*yahoo.com"> wrote in message
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Gcracker wrote:
PIAA is a reputable specialty bulb producer.

I wouldn't consider them "snake oil" peddlers at all.!


Reputable? perhaps. Snake oil? Perhaps not. But they certainly do run
fast and loose with the marketing hyperbole...

They claim their bulbs are brighter. One would infer this means that they
put out more quantity of light than a standard halogen. They do not, at
least not by any appreciable amount. By changing the gas mixture in the
bulb envelope, the filament burns hotter which makes it put out a whiter
color of light than standard halogen bulbs. Like when you are doing your
laundry, it can be said to be "brighter" because it's whiter. Does it
actually give you improved night vision, which afterall is the whole point
of automotive lighting? Probably not.

And the prices they demand for their hyped up bulbs is ridiculous IMO.

The Phillips vision plus is reputed to have the highest output for a
standard bulb. It's noticeable, but just. It's also not HID blue/white.

R / John
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Malt_Hound
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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 10:14 pm    Post subject: Re: New bulbs -- PIAA or Luminic? Reply with quote

John Carrier wrote:
Quote:
"Malt_Hound" <""Malt_Hound\"@*spam-me not*yahoo.com"> wrote in message
news:VvCdnT1NI9XTEeXeRVn-qQ@adelphia.com...

Gcracker wrote:

PIAA is a reputable specialty bulb producer.

I wouldn't consider them "snake oil" peddlers at all.!


Reputable? perhaps. Snake oil? Perhaps not. But they certainly do run
fast and loose with the marketing hyperbole...

They claim their bulbs are brighter. One would infer this means that they
put out more quantity of light than a standard halogen. They do not, at
least not by any appreciable amount. By changing the gas mixture in the
bulb envelope, the filament burns hotter which makes it put out a whiter
color of light than standard halogen bulbs. Like when you are doing your
laundry, it can be said to be "brighter" because it's whiter. Does it
actually give you improved night vision, which afterall is the whole point
of automotive lighting? Probably not.

And the prices they demand for their hyped up bulbs is ridiculous IMO.


The Phillips vision plus is reputed to have the highest output for a
standard bulb. It's noticeable, but just. It's also not HID blue/white.

R / John



I've also heard, but have no FHE, that the Osram Silverstars have a
higher lumen output. But these are not available in the US since
Sylvania markets a different bulb under the Silverstar product name.
The Sylvania bulbs are just blue bulbs at a premium price.

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-Fred W
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Floyd Rogers
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Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 5:14 am    Post subject: Re: New bulbs -- PIAA or Luminic? Reply with quote

"Malt_Hound" <""Malt_Hound\"@*spam-me not*yahoo.com"> wrote
Quote:
John Carrier wrote:
"Malt_Hound" <""Malt_Hound\"@*spam-me not*yahoo.com"> wrote
I've also heard, but have no FHE, that the Osram Silverstars have a higher
lumen output. But these are not available in the US since Sylvania
markets a different bulb under the Silverstar product name. The Sylvania
bulbs are just blue bulbs at a premium price.

True. Try Daniel Stern's site:
http://www.danielsternlighting.com/home.html
You might also google in rec.autos.driving for him - he posted a quickie
guide to best lightbulbs a couple years ago.

FloydR
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Malt_Hound
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Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 6:39 pm    Post subject: Re: New bulbs -- PIAA or Luminic? Reply with quote

Floyd Rogers wrote:
Quote:
"Malt_Hound" <""Malt_Hound\"@*spam-me not*yahoo.com"> wrote

John Carrier wrote:

"Malt_Hound" <""Malt_Hound\"@*spam-me not*yahoo.com"> wrote

I've also heard, but have no FHE, that the Osram Silverstars have a
higher lumen output. But these are not available in the US since
Sylvania markets a different bulb under the Silverstar product name.
The Sylvania bulbs are just blue bulbs at a premium price.


True. Try Daniel Stern's site:
http://www.danielsternlighting.com/home.html
You might also google in rec.autos.driving for him - he posted a quickie
guide to best lightbulbs a couple years ago.

FloydR

Thanks, but I have read that site and find it to be very informative.
Daniel sometimes passes through here (a.a.b) with a comment or two.

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-Fred W
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