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ted
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Wed Nov 16, 2005 8:08 am Post subject:
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http://www.topgear.com/content/tgonbbc2/
The M6 0-60 debacle probably has BMW spitting nails.
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DRP535
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Wed Nov 16, 2005 9:13 am Post subject:
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On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 02:08:53 GMT, "ted" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote:
| Quote: | http://www.topgear.com/content/tgonbbc2/
The M6 0-60 debacle probably has BMW spitting nails.
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So don't tease for those of us who are still waiting for download to
finish. What's the debacle of which you speak all about? |
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Mike G
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Wed Nov 16, 2005 4:35 pm Post subject:
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"DRP535" <drp535.nospam@softhome.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 02:08:53 GMT, "ted" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote:
http://www.topgear.com/content/tgonbbc2/
The M6 0-60 debacle probably has BMW spitting nails.
So don't tease for those of us who are still waiting for download to
finish. What's the debacle of which you speak all about?
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Presumably he's referring to the fact that there are so many settings for
the engine, transmission, and traction control, that getting the best 0-60
figure involves a fair bit of button pushing before the car has even turned
a
wheel.
It certainly did appear to be an overly complicated management system.
Frinstance, the engine can deliver 501 hp, but the engine has to be
programmed for that setting, otherwise it only delivers 400 hp.
Mike.
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Dodgy
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Wed Nov 16, 2005 9:58 pm Post subject:
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On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 10:35:49 -0000, "Mike G" <metier@lycos.co.uk>
waffled on about something:
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"DRP535" <drp535.nospam@softhome.net> wrote in message
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On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 02:08:53 GMT, "ted" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote:
http://www.topgear.com/content/tgonbbc2/
The M6 0-60 debacle probably has BMW spitting nails.
So don't tease for those of us who are still waiting for download to
finish. What's the debacle of which you speak all about?
Presumably he's referring to the fact that there are so many settings for
the engine, transmission, and traction control, that getting the best 0-60
figure involves a fair bit of button pushing before the car has even turned
a
wheel.
It certainly did appear to be an overly complicated management system.
Frinstance, the engine can deliver 501 hp, but the engine has to be
programmed for that setting, otherwise it only delivers 400 hp.
Mike.
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Why can't they have some engine management presets, nothing complex,
just economy/fast/track.
Having to fiddle with the traction control, shocks and then battle
with the iDrive to tell the engine to give full welly is insane!
Dodgy.
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ted
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Wed Nov 16, 2005 10:07 pm Post subject:
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It's not complicated, but it can be time consuming and shouldn't be done
while driving. It took the show's driver ~3 minutes to set all of the
performace settings.
The M5 has a dashboard "M" button that appears to do the same thing.
"Mike G" <metier@lycos.co.uk> wrote in message
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"DRP535" <drp535.nospam@softhome.net> wrote in message
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On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 02:08:53 GMT, "ted" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote:
http://www.topgear.com/content/tgonbbc2/
The M6 0-60 debacle probably has BMW spitting nails.
So don't tease for those of us who are still waiting for download to
finish. What's the debacle of which you speak all about?
Presumably he's referring to the fact that there are so many settings for
the engine, transmission, and traction control, that getting the best 0-60
figure involves a fair bit of button pushing before the car has even
turned
a
wheel.
It certainly did appear to be an overly complicated management system.
Frinstance, the engine can deliver 501 hp, but the engine has to be
programmed for that setting, otherwise it only delivers 400 hp.
Mike.
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Daz
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Wed Nov 16, 2005 10:51 pm Post subject:
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"ted" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | It's not complicated, but it can be time consuming and shouldn't be done
while driving. It took the show's driver ~3 minutes to set all of the
performace settings.
The M5 has a dashboard "M" button that appears to do the same thing.
"Mike G" <metier@lycos.co.uk> wrote in message
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"DRP535" <drp535.nospam@softhome.net> wrote in message
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On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 02:08:53 GMT, "ted" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote:
http://www.topgear.com/content/tgonbbc2/
The M6 0-60 debacle probably has BMW spitting nails.
So don't tease for those of us who are still waiting for download to
finish. What's the debacle of which you speak all about?
Presumably he's referring to the fact that there are so many settings for
the engine, transmission, and traction control, that getting the best
0-60
figure involves a fair bit of button pushing before the car has even
turned
a
wheel.
It certainly did appear to be an overly complicated management system.
Frinstance, the engine can deliver 501 hp, but the engine has to be
programmed for that setting, otherwise it only delivers 400 hp.
Mike.
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Forget Top Gear anyway, they're not that good!
Watch 5th gear this week and see either Tiff, VBH or Jason take the M6 round
the track, then you'll get a "proper" review.
Aston was nice though ;-) |
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zerouali
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Wed Nov 16, 2005 11:22 pm Post subject:
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All these journo's are like a dog with a bone over the i-drive system. Too
complicated for their tiny minds, and they can't be arsed to read the manual
so they've already decided it's crap. So why are most other manufacturers
starting to over some very (very, very, very) similar set-ups on their new
models? BMW ahead of their time again? There are so many options it might
take a bit of time to get the interface just right, but it's definitely the
way forward.
As for the 0-60 thing, the M button has to be programmed once (i.e. when you
buy the thing), and then, just like on the M5, pressing the M button gives
you the full potential of the car.
I like Top Gear, but like all motoring reviewers, they can be just too lazy
at times. They couldn't even get the BHP correct for pity's sake!(It's
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zerouali
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Thu Nov 17, 2005 12:36 am Post subject:
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Don't know why I typed "over" instead of "offer", but there you go!
"zerouali" <zeroualinospam@freeuk.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | All these journo's are like a dog with a bone over the i-drive system. Too
complicated for their tiny minds, and they can't be arsed to read the
manual so they've already decided it's crap. So why are most other
manufacturers starting to over some very (very, very, very) similar
set-ups on their new models? BMW ahead of their time again? There are so
many options it might take a bit of time to get the interface just right,
but it's definitely the way forward.
As for the 0-60 thing, the M button has to be programmed once (i.e. when
you buy the thing), and then, just like on the M5, pressing the M button
gives you the full potential of the car.
I like Top Gear, but like all motoring reviewers, they can be just too
lazy at times. They couldn't even get the BHP correct for pity's
sake!(It's 507bhp).
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Mike G
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Thu Nov 17, 2005 1:16 am Post subject:
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"ted" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | It's not complicated, but it can be time consuming and shouldn't be done
while driving. It took the show's driver ~3 minutes to set all of the
performace settings.
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And at the end of the day who is going to use all the variations available
on a regular basis. Chances are that once the novelty wears off, most owners
won't bother.
Mine has just 3 settings for the auto box. Snow, sport, and economy. Most of
my driving is done using the economy mode. I rarely use sport, and have
never used the snow setting.
Mike. |
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Dori A Schmetterling
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Thu Nov 17, 2005 7:36 am Post subject:
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But they voted 2:1 for the Porsche.
Remind me, when is 5th Gear I am out of town again (but still in Britain
for a change).
DAS
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Watch 5th gear this week and see either Tiff, VBH or Jason take the M6
round the track, then you'll get a "proper" review.
Aston was nice though ;-)
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Dave Plowman (News)
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Thu Nov 17, 2005 9:57 am Post subject:
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In article <437b8591$0$1473$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net>,
Mike G <metier@lycos.co.uk> wrote:
| Quote: | Mine has just 3 settings for the auto box. Snow, sport, and economy.
Most of my driving is done using the economy mode. I rarely use sport,
and have never used the snow setting.
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On my E34, the winter mode totally inhibited auto gearchanges. I used to
use it quite frequently in stop start slow traffic to lock the car in
second gear.
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Dave Plowman (News)
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Thu Nov 17, 2005 4:07 pm Post subject:
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In article <Xr6dnQ0mGJ2lO-HenZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@adelphia.com>,
Malt_Hound <Malt_Hound\@*spam-me not*yahoo.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On my E34, the winter mode totally inhibited auto gearchanges. I used
to use it quite frequently in stop start slow traffic to lock the car
in second gear.
3rd gear actually, if I'm not mistaken.
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Only if left in auto.
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Malt_Hound
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Thu Nov 17, 2005 9:47 pm Post subject:
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
| Quote: | In article <437b8591$0$1473$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net>,
Mike G <metier@lycos.co.uk> wrote:
Mine has just 3 settings for the auto box. Snow, sport, and economy.
Most of my driving is done using the economy mode. I rarely use sport,
and have never used the snow setting.
On my E34, the winter mode totally inhibited auto gearchanges. I used to
use it quite frequently in stop start slow traffic to lock the car in
second gear.
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3rd gear actually, if I'm not mistaken.
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