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Guenter Scholz
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Tue Sep 27, 2005 11:48 pm Post subject:
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Hi all,
quick question if I may. I'd like to buy a boxster (presumably more reliable
than older 911) as a reward to myself for putting kids through university.
Locally there is a '98 for sale for CDN$33k (about US$26.5k) with 50kkm
I remember reading something on this group a while back that it would be
worthwhile to spend some extra $ and buy a >'00 or newer Boxster since there
were considerable improvements made in 2000 .... have I got this wrong??
Any advice much appreciated
cheers, guenter
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Floyd Rogers
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Wed Sep 28, 2005 6:24 am Post subject:
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"Guenter Scholz" <scholz@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca> wrote
| Quote: | quick question if I may. I'd like to buy a boxster (presumably more
reliable
than older 911) as a reward to myself for putting kids through university.
Locally there is a '98 for sale for CDN$33k (about US$26.5k) with 50kkm
I remember reading something on this group a while back that it would be
worthwhile to spend some extra $ and buy a >'00 or newer Boxster since
there
were considerable improvements made in 2000 .... have I got this wrong??
Any advice much appreciated
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Might have been me... We bought a (used with 38K miles) 2000 Boxster
(from a guy in California - many more down there.) for $30K US, two years
ago. So the one you're looking at is too high in price IMO.
The 2000 model saw the 2.7l engine (from 2.5l) and some engineering
upgrades to the engine (mostly oil seals - they all leak.) It's been
quite reliable (now 56K on it IIRC).
BTW, if you want to see a good selection online, go to autotrader.com
or cars.com and search within 100-150 miles of San Jose, CA.
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Chris
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Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:15 am Post subject:
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It use to be "Buy the newest Porsche that you can afford". That all
changed in 98 when the last 993 ended the air cooled P-cars. Now just
buy what you like. Here in South Florida today I counted 73 Porsches in
the service shop. There was only one 993 the rest were all water cooled
cars. Including 3 new $450,000 Carrera GTs with tow hooks on the bumper.
Get a car that's in good condition and enjoy it. They all have
problems eventually, it all depends on how you take care of them. It's
very easy to blow incredible amounts of money on repair bills and parts
are always outrageous however it's still the best sports car ever made
and it should bring you years of fun. Chris
Guenter Scholz wrote:
| Quote: | Hi all,
quick question if I may. I'd like to buy a boxster (presumably more reliable
than older 911) as a reward to myself for putting kids through university.
Locally there is a '98 for sale for CDN$33k (about US$26.5k) with 50kkm
I remember reading something on this group a while back that it would be
worthwhile to spend some extra $ and buy a >'00 or newer Boxster since there
were considerable improvements made in 2000 .... have I got this wrong??
Any advice much appreciated
cheers, guenter
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Guenter Scholz
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Wed Sep 28, 2005 11:34 am Post subject:
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thanks for the tips Floyd, much appreciated,
cheers, guenter
ps if I may ask, did you ever consider a 911, possibly a bit older for the
same price?
In article <11jjs7ujkl4d4cd@corp.supernews.com>,
Floyd Rogers <fbloogyudsr@hotmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | "Guenter Scholz" <scholz@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca> wrote
quick question if I may. I'd like to buy a boxster (presumably more
reliable
than older 911) as a reward to myself for putting kids through university.
Locally there is a '98 for sale for CDN$33k (about US$26.5k) with 50kkm
I remember reading something on this group a while back that it would be
worthwhile to spend some extra $ and buy a >'00 or newer Boxster since
there
were considerable improvements made in 2000 .... have I got this wrong??
Any advice much appreciated
Might have been me... We bought a (used with 38K miles) 2000 Boxster
(from a guy in California - many more down there.) for $30K US, two years
ago. So the one you're looking at is too high in price IMO.
The 2000 model saw the 2.7l engine (from 2.5l) and some engineering
upgrades to the engine (mostly oil seals - they all leak.) It's been
quite reliable (now 56K on it IIRC).
BTW, if you want to see a good selection online, go to autotrader.com
or cars.com and search within 100-150 miles of San Jose, CA.
FloydR
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Floyd Rogers
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Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:22 pm Post subject:
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"Guenter Scholz" <scholz@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca> wrote
| Quote: | ps if I may ask, did you ever consider a 911, possibly a bit older for the
same price?
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Not really. We were looking only for convertibles, and there aren't many
available and consequently higher-priced. Also, the mellower handling
appealed to Judy (it's her car), and Boxsters are in her opinion far better
looking than C2/C4 Cabrios (also IMHO!)
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cp
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Sat Nov 12, 2005 9:16 am Post subject:
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| Quote: | It use to be "Buy the newest Porsche that you can afford". That all changed in 98 when the last 993 ended the air cooled P-cars.
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What's better about the air cooled engines, they're simpler?
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E Brown
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Sat Nov 12, 2005 5:00 pm Post subject:
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On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 08:52:30 GMT, "cp" <asdf@asdf.com> wrote:
| Quote: | It use to be "Buy the newest Porsche that you can afford". That all changed in 98 when the last 993 ended the air cooled P-cars.
What's better about the air cooled engines, they're simpler?
The biggest gripe about the new engines is that the air-cooled cars |
were competition engines made for the street, while the water-cooled
cars are built to a price point. They aren't proving as durable as the
previous generation, and Porsche used the air-cooled case for the GT3.
epbrown
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Dan Stephenson
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Sun Nov 13, 2005 1:03 am Post subject:
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In article <siibn1htb42oauisgl5u9306vqf2p52jts@4ax.com>, E Brown
<epbrown01@att.net> wrote:
| Quote: | On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 08:52:30 GMT, "cp" <asdf@asdf.com> wrote:
It use to be "Buy the newest Porsche that you can afford". That all
changed in 98 when the last 993 ended the air cooled P-cars.
What's better about the air cooled engines, they're simpler?
The biggest gripe about the new engines is that the air-cooled cars
were competition engines made for the street, while the water-cooled
cars are built to a price point. They aren't proving as durable as the
previous generation, and Porsche used the air-cooled case for the GT3.
epbrown
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I don't understand, what do you mean by "competition engineers for the
street" vs. "to a price point"? Isn't it just a different heat
transfer mechanism?
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NeedforSwede2
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Tue Nov 15, 2005 7:32 pm Post subject:
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In article <121120051305033428%stephedanospam@mac.com>,
stephedanospam@mac.com says...
| Quote: | I don't understand, what do you mean by "competition engineers for the
street" vs. "to a price point"? Isn't it just a different heat
transfer mechanism?
yes and no |
An air cooled engine used air and oil.
The oil ways would be bigger and once moving air flow was unlikely to
disappear unless the engine got totally sealed and isolated.
A water cooled engine has to find space in a similar physical size of
unit to fit both oil and liquid coolant.
That will mean thinner oil galleries, and the ability to close off some
of the air flow so you can sound deaden the engine bay to keep the
greenies happy. And unlike an aircooled engine, it is very possible to
lose major coolant source at speed (hose pops off/headgasket
goes/radiator pops). Combine that with less airflow at speed, and less
oil and engines get hurt real quick if it happens when you are seriously
playing.
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E Brown
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Tue Nov 15, 2005 9:26 pm Post subject:
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On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 19:03:55 GMT, Dan Stephenson
<stephedanospam@mac.com> wrote:
| Quote: | I don't understand, what do you mean by "competition engineers for the
street" vs. "to a price point"? Isn't it just a different heat
transfer mechanism?
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Water-cooling v aircooling, yes. And I've got no problem with
water-pumpers, having owned 2 Porsches with watercooled engines
earlier this year (a 944 and 928).
But the change to water-cooling also signified a change at Porsche.
Weideking (sp?) changed Porsche's manufacturing philosophy after
bringing in consultants from Japanese car companies to streamline the
building process.
Prior to the changes, I would describe Porsches as over-engineered,
while the 996 and Boxster are (as I wrote) engineered to a price
point. Rather than spend the money to make the engines the best they
could muster, they're now built to be the best Porsche can do - for
the money. The previous cars are durable and can rack up 100s of
thousands of miles, but the company teetered on the brink of
bankruptcy on a regular basis. The current cars are faster and more
up-to-date and Porsche is now the most profitable car company on the
planet
Time will tell how durable the 996 and its variants are (I
personally think the RMS issue is overstated, but I'm sorry to see
Porsche didn't correct it for the 997). Some people see it as
significant that for the competition-spec cars, Porsche reverts to the
993 engine case.
To me the cars don't seem as solidly built as my old ones. You can
find a 996 for less than a 993 with similar miles, and some are as low
as a 964 or G50 911. People are less confident in the new cars when
out of warranty than the old ones.
epbrown
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