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Josh Assing
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 12:46 am Post subject:
Valet Keys e32 |
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The other day -- I had a need to use the valet key, which we never had the need
to do.
I grabbed it; went to hte garage, and used it to start the car -- and drove off.
luckily; I also brought the master key -- becuase the key fit, but did not turn
the door locks.
The cut of the key is different than the main key.. the "tip" 1/2 of the key is
different, but the base 1/2 is the same.
The dealer says the only thing that should be different is the grove, otherwise
they should be the exact same cut.
Anyone have a valet & master key handy to double check? Any one heard of a key
that starts the ignition but doesn't fit the door?
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Keith
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 1:45 am Post subject:
Re: Valet Keys e32 |
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"Josh Assing" <Xjosh@jassing.comX> wrote in message
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| Quote: | The other day -- I had a need to use the valet key, which we never had the
need
to do.
I grabbed it; went to hte garage, and used it to start the car -- and
drove off.
luckily; I also brought the master key -- becuase the key fit, but did not
turn
the door locks.
The cut of the key is different than the main key.. the "tip" 1/2 of the
key is
different, but the base 1/2 is the same.
The dealer says the only thing that should be different is the grove,
otherwise
they should be the exact same cut.
Anyone have a valet & master key handy to double check? Any one heard of
a key
that starts the ignition but doesn't fit the door?
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I've just looked at my valet key, it looks the same. (E46 though)
When I bought the car, I thought the salesman said it would open the doors
and start the car but not open the glove box. |
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Josh Assing
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 2:04 am Post subject:
Re: Valet Keys e32 |
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| Quote: | I've just looked at my valet key, it looks the same. (E46 though)
When I bought the car, I thought the salesman said it would open the doors
and start the car but not open the glove box.
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Thanks. That's what it should open - doors & start the car -- but not the trunk
or glove box.
Wonder how I ended up with a key that starts the car, but won't open doors;
anyway -- it was $30 to buy a key from the dealer, and 25 to have one cut... so
I ordered one from teh dealer.
Thanks
-j
ps: the reason I asked, is I talked to someone else; and they insisted that the
keys are slightly different (other than the center grove).
anyway; thanks.
-j
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Jeff Strickland
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 6:43 am Post subject:
Re: Valet Keys e32 |
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The dealer is right, the difference is the groove. The keys are cut the
same, but the groove is required to fit the key into the trunk or glove box.
Both keys should fit and operate the doors and ignition.
"Josh Assing" <Xjosh@jassing.comX> wrote in message
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| Quote: | The other day -- I had a need to use the valet key, which we never had the
need
to do.
I grabbed it; went to hte garage, and used it to start the car -- and
drove off.
luckily; I also brought the master key -- becuase the key fit, but did not
turn
the door locks.
The cut of the key is different than the main key.. the "tip" 1/2 of the
key is
different, but the base 1/2 is the same.
The dealer says the only thing that should be different is the grove,
otherwise
they should be the exact same cut.
Anyone have a valet & master key handy to double check? Any one heard of
a key
that starts the ignition but doesn't fit the door?
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Jeff Strickland
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 6:44 am Post subject:
Re: Valet Keys e32 |
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"Josh Assing" <Xjosh@jassing.comX> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I've just looked at my valet key, it looks the same. (E46 though)
When I bought the car, I thought the salesman said it would open the doors
and start the car but not open the glove box.
Thanks. That's what it should open - doors & start the car -- but not the
trunk
or glove box.
Wonder how I ended up with a key that starts the car, but won't open
doors;
anyway -- it was $30 to buy a key from the dealer, and 25 to have one
cut... so
I ordered one from teh dealer.
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If it starts the car, but won't open the doors, then you are doing something
wrong with it when it is inserted into the doors. |
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Josh Assing
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 1:24 am Post subject:
Re: Valet Keys e32 |
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| Quote: | If it starts the car, but won't open the doors, then you are doing something
wrong with it when it is inserted into the doors.
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me, two dealers, a locksmith & a handful of friends.....
at least I'm not alone.
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Jeff Strickland
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Sat Nov 12, 2005 5:15 am Post subject:
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Alright, here's the bottom line. The keys are identical, except for the
groove.
The pins that fit the groove only exist in the trunk lock and the glove box
lock. The Valet Key will not fit the trunk or the glove box because these
two locks have a pin that demands the groove in the key. If the keys you
have fit the ignition but not the door, then you are doing something wrong
in the door. There is no other answer.
Well, the door locks could be hosed, I suppose. But this isn't a fault of
the key, it's a fault of the lock.
"Josh Assing" <Xjosh@jassing.comX> wrote in message
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| Quote: | If it starts the car, but won't open the doors, then you are doing
something
wrong with it when it is inserted into the doors.
me, two dealers, a locksmith & a handful of friends.....
at least I'm not alone.
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Josh Assing
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Sat Nov 12, 2005 5:35 am Post subject:
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On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 15:15:52 -0800, "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Alright, here's the bottom line. The keys are identical, except for the
groove.
The pins that fit the groove only exist in the trunk lock and the glove box
lock. The Valet Key will not fit the trunk or the glove box because these
two locks have a pin that demands the groove in the key. If the keys you
have fit the ignition but not the door, then you are doing something wrong
in the door. There is no other answer.
Well, the door locks could be hosed, I suppose. But this isn't a fault of
the key, it's a fault of the lock.
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Then why do two other "groved" keys work perfectly in the door?
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Jeff Strickland
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Sat Nov 12, 2005 6:21 am Post subject:
Re: Valet Keys e32 |
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"Josh Assing" <XjoshX@jassing.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 15:15:52 -0800, "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com
wrote:
Alright, here's the bottom line. The keys are identical, except for the
groove.
The pins that fit the groove only exist in the trunk lock and the glove
box
lock. The Valet Key will not fit the trunk or the glove box because these
two locks have a pin that demands the groove in the key. If the keys you
have fit the ignition but not the door, then you are doing something wrong
in the door. There is no other answer.
Well, the door locks could be hosed, I suppose. But this isn't a fault of
the key, it's a fault of the lock.
Then why do two other "groved" keys work perfectly in the door?
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That's a good question.
The answer is to compare the two keys and make sure they are indeed the
same. If they are, and one key works the locks and the ignition and one only
works the ignition, then the locks are hosed or the operator is. There can
be no other answer. You can't even put the Valet Key into locks that need
the groove, so if you can put the Valet Key into the doors, but the doors
won't unlock, then the problem has to be the lock or the operator. We know
the key is okay because it works the ignition. |
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Josh Assing
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Sat Nov 12, 2005 8:05 am Post subject:
Re: Valet Keys e32 |
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| Quote: | That's a good question.
The answer is to compare the two keys and make sure they are indeed the
same. If they are, and one key works the locks and the ignition and one only
works the ignition, then the locks are hosed or the operator is. There can
be no other answer. You can't even put the Valet Key into locks that need
the groove, so if you can put the Valet Key into the doors, but the doors
won't unlock, then the problem has to be the lock or the operator. We know
the key is okay because it works the ignition.
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see http://www.jassing.com/josh/images/bmw/ValetMasterKey.jpg
They are not the same -- the "base" 1/2 is the same.
The tip 1/2 is different.
This key does start the car w/o problem.
The master key does start the car, open the doors, unlock the trunk & glovebox.
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Jeff Strickland
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Sun Nov 13, 2005 1:51 am Post subject:
Re: Valet Keys e32 |
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"Josh Assing" <XjoshX@jassing.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | That's a good question.
The answer is to compare the two keys and make sure they are indeed the
same. If they are, and one key works the locks and the ignition and one
only
works the ignition, then the locks are hosed or the operator is. There can
be no other answer. You can't even put the Valet Key into locks that need
the groove, so if you can put the Valet Key into the doors, but the doors
won't unlock, then the problem has to be the lock or the operator. We know
the key is okay because it works the ignition.
see http://www.jassing.com/josh/images/bmw/ValetMasterKey.jpg
They are not the same -- the "base" 1/2 is the same.
The tip 1/2 is different.
This key does start the car w/o problem.
The master key does start the car, open the doors, unlock the trunk &
glovebox.
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Those keys are not the same. The Valey Key ought not work anything on your
car. The fact that it seems to operate the ignition says to me that the
Ignition Lock set is damaged.
I thought the doors were toast, but it seems the ignition is the problem.
The keys are not the same. Get a new Valet Key cut from the standard key. |
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