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Dean Kamen
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Tue Dec 14, 2004 12:59 pm Post subject:
Bleeding hydraulic clutch |
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Hello group.
I have A 94 geo prism 1.6 which I've replaced the clutch disc, pressure
plate and had the flywheel resurfaced. I do not own a Pressure or vacuum
bleeder.
Can I bleed the clutch hydraulic system the same as the brake hydraulic
system?
I have tried gravity bleeding for 2-1/2 hours straight still nothing from
the bleeder valve on the slave cylinder.
I have spent an hour s-l-o-w-l-y pumping the clutch, there are air bubbles
escaping from the master cylinder when I pump but still nothing from the
bleeder valve. There wasn't any pedal when I started the pumping procedure
now there is a SLIGHT pedal, but nothing anywhere close to normal, and still
nothing from the bleeder valve.
Can I use A hand pump to draw fluid through the bleeder valve then resume
normal bleeding procedures?
Thanks
Dean Kamen
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Eightupman
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Tue Dec 14, 2004 8:35 pm Post subject:
Re: Bleeding hydraulic clutch |
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The only luck I have had with 100% results every time was something that I
dubbed reverse bleeding. I took a large syringe (modified turkey baster
with some vacuum hose) and filled the system throught the bleeder on the
slave cylinder. Pushed the bubbles out the master and all was good in about
30 minutes.
I think you may have luck with a vacuum pump, but I know my way works.
"Dean Kamen" <traxx2661@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:w3xvd.5161$NK3.4794@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com...
| Quote: | Hello group.
I have A 94 geo prism 1.6 which I've replaced the clutch disc, pressure
plate and had the flywheel resurfaced. I do not own a Pressure or vacuum
bleeder.
Can I bleed the clutch hydraulic system the same as the brake hydraulic
system?
I have tried gravity bleeding for 2-1/2 hours straight still nothing from
the bleeder valve on the slave cylinder.
I have spent an hour s-l-o-w-l-y pumping the clutch, there are air bubbles
escaping from the master cylinder when I pump but still nothing from the
bleeder valve. There wasn't any pedal when I started the pumping procedure
now there is a SLIGHT pedal, but nothing anywhere close to normal, and
still
nothing from the bleeder valve.
Can I use A hand pump to draw fluid through the bleeder valve then resume
normal bleeding procedures?
Thanks
Dean Kamen
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Refinish King
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Wed Dec 15, 2004 5:45 am Post subject:
Re: Bleeding hydraulic clutch |
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That's exactly the way an injection bleeder works:
Jack the car up, so the slave bleeder valve is higher than the push rod.
Then bleed again.
I hope this helps?
Refinish King
"Eightupman" <eightupman@newemail.com> wrote in message
news:cLDvd.6567$xR1.599982@twister.southeast.rr.com...
| Quote: | The only luck I have had with 100% results every time was something that I
dubbed reverse bleeding. I took a large syringe (modified turkey baster
with some vacuum hose) and filled the system throught the bleeder on the
slave cylinder. Pushed the bubbles out the master and all was good in
about
30 minutes.
I think you may have luck with a vacuum pump, but I know my way works.
"Dean Kamen" <traxx2661@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:w3xvd.5161$NK3.4794@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com...
Hello group.
I have A 94 geo prism 1.6 which I've replaced the clutch disc, pressure
plate and had the flywheel resurfaced. I do not own a Pressure or vacuum
bleeder.
Can I bleed the clutch hydraulic system the same as the brake hydraulic
system?
I have tried gravity bleeding for 2-1/2 hours straight still nothing
from
the bleeder valve on the slave cylinder.
I have spent an hour s-l-o-w-l-y pumping the clutch, there are air
bubbles
escaping from the master cylinder when I pump but still nothing from the
bleeder valve. There wasn't any pedal when I started the pumping
procedure
now there is a SLIGHT pedal, but nothing anywhere close to normal, and
still
nothing from the bleeder valve.
Can I use A hand pump to draw fluid through the bleeder valve then
resume
normal bleeding procedures?
Thanks
Dean Kamen
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shiden_kai
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Wed Dec 15, 2004 5:45 am Post subject:
Re: Bleeding hydraulic clutch |
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Dean Kamen wrote:
| Quote: | Can I bleed the clutch hydraulic system the same as the brake
hydraulic system?
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Sometimes yes, sometimes no.
The method that I use, which always works....is to
first gravity bleed the system, which you've already
done. Then you need to get an assistant to press
the clutch pedal down...while you open the bleed
screw. Make sure your helper keeps the pedal
down until you have closed the bleed screw, then
bring the pedal up and repeat.
If your slave cylinder is external, you can also force
the plunger on the slave cylinder back into it's bore
as far as it will go, then gravity bleed while holding
the plunger all the way in. This just makes sure that
any air that could be trapped in the cylinder will actually
go out where the bleed screw is located.
Ian |
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Eightupman
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Wed Dec 15, 2004 5:45 am Post subject:
Re: Bleeding hydraulic clutch |
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I love it when I "accidently" figure something out after getting royally
pissed at it and then finding out that I wasn't the first to do it!!
So there is a specific tool that I need to invest in then? I really like my
turkey baster! LOL
Eightupman
"Refinish King" <noneofyourbusiness@nevermind.net> wrote in message
news:1nMvd.12754$pZ5.3683@trndny06...
| Quote: | That's exactly the way an injection bleeder works:
Jack the car up, so the slave bleeder valve is higher than the push rod.
Then bleed again.
I hope this helps?
Refinish King
"Eightupman" <eightupman@newemail.com> wrote in message
news:cLDvd.6567$xR1.599982@twister.southeast.rr.com...
The only luck I have had with 100% results every time was something that
I
dubbed reverse bleeding. I took a large syringe (modified turkey baster
with some vacuum hose) and filled the system throught the bleeder on the
slave cylinder. Pushed the bubbles out the master and all was good in
about
30 minutes.
I think you may have luck with a vacuum pump, but I know my way works.
"Dean Kamen" <traxx2661@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:w3xvd.5161$NK3.4794@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com...
Hello group.
I have A 94 geo prism 1.6 which I've replaced the clutch disc,
pressure
plate and had the flywheel resurfaced. I do not own a Pressure or
vacuum
bleeder.
Can I bleed the clutch hydraulic system the same as the brake
hydraulic
system?
I have tried gravity bleeding for 2-1/2 hours straight still nothing
from
the bleeder valve on the slave cylinder.
I have spent an hour s-l-o-w-l-y pumping the clutch, there are air
bubbles
escaping from the master cylinder when I pump but still nothing from
the
bleeder valve. There wasn't any pedal when I started the pumping
procedure
now there is a SLIGHT pedal, but nothing anywhere close to normal, and
still
nothing from the bleeder valve.
Can I use A hand pump to draw fluid through the bleeder valve then
resume
normal bleeding procedures?
Thanks
Dean Kamen
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Dean Kamen
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Wed Dec 15, 2004 8:01 pm Post subject:
Re: Bleeding hydraulic clutch |
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Thanks "Eightupman"
I ended up buying A Vacuum Pump and pumped air out of this system for almost
two hours Whew!! my hands are tired. I WILL try your way next time, it's
gotta be a little easier :-)
"Eightupman" <eightupman@newemail.com> wrote in message
news:cLDvd.6567$xR1.599982@twister.southeast.rr.com...
| Quote: | The only luck I have had with 100% results every time was something that I
dubbed reverse bleeding. I took a large syringe (modified turkey baster
with some vacuum hose) and filled the system throught the bleeder on the
slave cylinder. Pushed the bubbles out the master and all was good in
about
30 minutes.
I think you may have luck with a vacuum pump, but I know my way works.
"Dean Kamen" <traxx2661@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:w3xvd.5161$NK3.4794@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com...
Hello group.
I have A 94 geo prism 1.6 which I've replaced the clutch disc, pressure
plate and had the flywheel resurfaced. I do not own a Pressure or vacuum
bleeder.
Can I bleed the clutch hydraulic system the same as the brake hydraulic
system?
I have tried gravity bleeding for 2-1/2 hours straight still nothing from
the bleeder valve on the slave cylinder.
I have spent an hour s-l-o-w-l-y pumping the clutch, there are air
bubbles
escaping from the master cylinder when I pump but still nothing from the
bleeder valve. There wasn't any pedal when I started the pumping
procedure
now there is a SLIGHT pedal, but nothing anywhere close to normal, and
still
nothing from the bleeder valve.
Can I use A hand pump to draw fluid through the bleeder valve then resume
normal bleeding procedures?
Thanks
Dean Kamen
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Eightupman
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Thu Dec 16, 2004 5:08 am Post subject:
Re: Bleeding hydraulic clutch |
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A valuable tool for all kinds of things. Your investment was sound
regardless.
"Dean Kamen" <traxx2661@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Thanks "Eightupman"
I ended up buying A Vacuum Pump and pumped air out of this system for
almost
two hours Whew!! my hands are tired. I WILL try your way next time, it's
gotta be a little easier :-)
"Eightupman" <eightupman@newemail.com> wrote in message
news:cLDvd.6567$xR1.599982@twister.southeast.rr.com...
The only luck I have had with 100% results every time was something that
I
dubbed reverse bleeding. I took a large syringe (modified turkey baster
with some vacuum hose) and filled the system throught the bleeder on the
slave cylinder. Pushed the bubbles out the master and all was good in
about
30 minutes.
I think you may have luck with a vacuum pump, but I know my way works.
"Dean Kamen" <traxx2661@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:w3xvd.5161$NK3.4794@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com...
Hello group.
I have A 94 geo prism 1.6 which I've replaced the clutch disc, pressure
plate and had the flywheel resurfaced. I do not own a Pressure or
vacuum
bleeder.
Can I bleed the clutch hydraulic system the same as the brake hydraulic
system?
I have tried gravity bleeding for 2-1/2 hours straight still nothing
from
the bleeder valve on the slave cylinder.
I have spent an hour s-l-o-w-l-y pumping the clutch, there are air
bubbles
escaping from the master cylinder when I pump but still nothing from
the
bleeder valve. There wasn't any pedal when I started the pumping
procedure
now there is a SLIGHT pedal, but nothing anywhere close to normal, and
still
nothing from the bleeder valve.
Can I use A hand pump to draw fluid through the bleeder valve then
resume
normal bleeding procedures?
Thanks
Dean Kamen
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Refinish King
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Fri Dec 17, 2004 5:43 am Post subject:
Re: Bleeding hydraulic clutch |
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If you want to spend over:
$300.00, be my guest! My Vacula works great and if I had my old refill
container. I could pull fluid up from the slave cylinder!
Refinish King
"Eightupman" <eightupman@newemail.com> wrote in message
news:wcPvd.6399$fQ1.523999@twister.southeast.rr.com...
| Quote: | I love it when I "accidently" figure something out after getting royally
pissed at it and then finding out that I wasn't the first to do it!!
So there is a specific tool that I need to invest in then? I really like
my
turkey baster! LOL
Eightupman
"Refinish King" <noneofyourbusiness@nevermind.net> wrote in message
news:1nMvd.12754$pZ5.3683@trndny06...
That's exactly the way an injection bleeder works:
Jack the car up, so the slave bleeder valve is higher than the push rod.
Then bleed again.
I hope this helps?
Refinish King
"Eightupman" <eightupman@newemail.com> wrote in message
news:cLDvd.6567$xR1.599982@twister.southeast.rr.com...
The only luck I have had with 100% results every time was something
that
I
dubbed reverse bleeding. I took a large syringe (modified turkey
baster
with some vacuum hose) and filled the system throught the bleeder on
the
slave cylinder. Pushed the bubbles out the master and all was good in
about
30 minutes.
I think you may have luck with a vacuum pump, but I know my way works.
"Dean Kamen" <traxx2661@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:w3xvd.5161$NK3.4794@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com...
Hello group.
I have A 94 geo prism 1.6 which I've replaced the clutch disc,
pressure
plate and had the flywheel resurfaced. I do not own a Pressure or
vacuum
bleeder.
Can I bleed the clutch hydraulic system the same as the brake
hydraulic
system?
I have tried gravity bleeding for 2-1/2 hours straight still nothing
from
the bleeder valve on the slave cylinder.
I have spent an hour s-l-o-w-l-y pumping the clutch, there are air
bubbles
escaping from the master cylinder when I pump but still nothing from
the
bleeder valve. There wasn't any pedal when I started the pumping
procedure
now there is a SLIGHT pedal, but nothing anywhere close to normal,
and
still
nothing from the bleeder valve.
Can I use A hand pump to draw fluid through the bleeder valve then
resume
normal bleeding procedures?
Thanks
Dean Kamen
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