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cp
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Mon Sep 19, 2005 8:13 am Post subject:
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Hi, is it worth it to get the K&N filter for my '86 5K TQ? Will it make much difference? The car is in peak mechanical condition now
(unless I'm missing something)
Thank,
cp
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BBO
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Mon Sep 19, 2005 8:13 am Post subject:
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"gcmschemist@gmail.com" <gcmschemist@gmail.com> writes:
| Quote: | cp wrote:
Hi, is it worth it to get the K&N filter for my '86 5K TQ? Will it make much difference? The car is in peak mechanical condition now
(unless I'm missing something)
Yeah, it lets more crap through, and makes your charge air dirtier.
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Is this something you know or something you've heard?
FYI K&N test their filters for filtration levels nenecessary to protect
your engine with independent laboratories. The procedure used is the
SAE J726 air filter test procedure established by the Society of
Automotive Engineers.
http://www.knfilters.com/images/factstab1.gif
http://www.knfilters.com/images/factstab2.gif
I can understand that poorly maintained K&N filters, as any other
filters, can - and will - perform lousy. Maintain your air filters
as you would maintain the rest of your car and you wont have any
problems.
I have a K&N filter in my BMW, and notice less fuel consumption, and the
engine response is much better than with the stock filter.
| Quote: | Use a stock filter - they work great.
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Yeah, but they are so restricted. Like you... ;-)
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gcmschemist@gmail.com
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Mon Sep 19, 2005 8:13 am Post subject:
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cp wrote:
| Quote: | Hi, is it worth it to get the K&N filter for my '86 5K TQ? Will it make much difference? The car is in peak mechanical condition now
(unless I'm missing something)
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Yeah, it lets more crap through, and makes your charge air dirtier.
Use a stock filter - they work great.
E.P.
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Alec
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gcmschemist@gmail.com
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Tue Sep 20, 2005 3:45 am Post subject:
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BBO wrote:
| Quote: | "gcmschemist@gmail.com" <gcmschemist@gmail.com> writes:
cp wrote:
Hi, is it worth it to get the K&N filter for my '86 5K TQ? Will it make much difference? The car is in peak mechanical condition now
(unless I'm missing something)
Yeah, it lets more crap through, and makes your charge air dirtier.
Is this something you know or something you've heard?
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Something I know.
Wow. K&N presents positive data! Shocker!
Now, how about *independent testing*? That's usually not anywhere NEAR
as positive.
| Quote: | I can understand that poorly maintained K&N filters, as any other
filters, can - and will - perform lousy.
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Actually, new, freshly-oiled K&Ns do not filter as well. And the
differences between a K&N and stock filter in engine power are
negligible.
| Quote: | I have a K&N filter in my BMW, and notice less fuel consumption, and the
engine response is much better than with the stock filter.
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Placebo effect.
| Quote: | Use a stock filter - they work great.
Yeah, but they are so restricted. Like you... ;-)
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:roll eyes:
Independent testing results disagree with your, uh, "assessment."
And *especially* in a turbo application, I wouldn't screw around with
dirty charge air.
But hey, if you like dirty intake air for no appreciable gain - have at
it!
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Tony Curran
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Tue Sep 20, 2005 6:22 am Post subject:
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I've been warned off them and removed one from my '96 S6.
Something I've done on my S6 is to replace the stock air intake hose, which
snaked around the engine compartment before getting to the air box, with a
4" hose connected to the oil cooler intake snorkel. Have seen increased
accelaration performance.
The AAN engine can suck harder than the stock air intake can supply air to.
May be this is something you could investigate for your car. The mods I did
cost $20.
Tony
96 S6
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| Quote: | Hi, is it worth it to get the K&N filter for my '86 5K TQ? Will it make
much difference? The car is in peak mechanical condition now (unless I'm
missing something)
Thank,
cp
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Pete
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Tue Sep 20, 2005 7:31 am Post subject:
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"cp" wrote
| Quote: | Hi, is it worth it to get the K&N filter for my '86 5K TQ?
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No. Not for an old, and not for a new.
Cheers,
Pete |
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cp
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Wed Sep 21, 2005 8:12 am Post subject:
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hmmmmmm I think I'll do an experiment, before and after, and post the results. maaaaaan it's amazing how fast a 20 year old 2.2
liter engine will go :-))))))))))
| Quote: | Hi, is it worth it to get the K&N filter for my '86 5K TQ? Will it make much difference? The car is in peak mechanical condition
now (unless I'm missing something)
Thank,
cp
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gcmschemist@gmail.com
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Wed Sep 21, 2005 9:47 pm Post subject:
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cp wrote:
| Quote: | hmmmmmm I think I'll do an experiment, before and after, and post the results. maaaaaan it's amazing how fast a 20 year old 2.2
liter engine will go :-))))))))))
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Remember to try a new, stock filter as a control. Otherwise your
experiment doesn't mean much. :)
E.P. "I know what you mean, as an owner of an UrS6" |
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cp
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Fri Sep 23, 2005 7:33 am Post subject:
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| Quote: | Remember to try a new, stock filter as a control. Otherwise your
experiment doesn't mean much. :)
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Yes, I put one in a month ago. Going off on a long trip, will see if the K&N makes any difference.
| Quote: | E.P. "I know what you mean, as an owner of an UrS6"
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ooooh S6, I'd love to have that if I was living in Europe
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gcmschemist@gmail.com
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Sat Sep 24, 2005 12:36 am Post subject:
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cp wrote:
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E.P. "I know what you mean, as an owner of an UrS6"
ooooh S6, I'd love to have that if I was living in Europe
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Yeah, it sucks to be in the U.S. with this car - I always want to punch
it up to 100.
But it's still a nice car, and gets decent fuel mileage when I don't
overuse the boost. :)
E.P.
P.S. I think you're making a potentially expensive mistake. You're
not going to notice any change in power. |
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cp
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Sat Sep 24, 2005 11:51 pm Post subject:
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| Quote: | ooooh S6, I'd love to have that if I was living in Europe
Yeah, it sucks to be in the U.S. with this car - I always want to punch
it up to 100.
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100mph? I hope you're kidding me :-) you mean 155mph? German middle aged women drive 120mph in their diesel volkswagens and you
want to drive your S6 100mph? :-) I've driven in bumper to bumper rush hour traffic at 115mph, in the traffic laden tunnels of paris
at 140mph, so what's 100mph for a S6? Any 1994 cavalier will do that :-)
I've got a couple thousand 150mph kilometers under my belt, now that's S6 driving, just gotta watch out for American tourists, a
known danger on the autobahns :-)
| Quote: | But it's still a nice car, and gets decent fuel mileage when I don't
overuse the boost. :)
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:-) I bet
| Quote: | P.S. I think you're making a potentially expensive mistake. You're
not going to notice any change in power.
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You're right, I'm not going to bother. The filter costs 50CDN here, not worth it.
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Pete
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Sun Sep 25, 2005 2:24 am Post subject:
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"cp" <asdf@asdf.com> wrote
| Quote: | 100mph? I hope you're kidding me :-) you mean 155mph? German middle
aged women drive 120mph in their diesel volkswagens and you want to
drive your S6 100mph? :-) I've driven in bumper to bumper rush hour
traffic at 115mph, in the traffic laden tunnels of paris at 140mph, so
what's 100mph for a S6? Any 1994 cavalier will do that :-)
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When getting caught at that speed makes one go to jail, suddenly the
bravery appears to vanish. Of course the trick is to not get caugth, I
know. :)
At the risk of sounding like a preacher, driving 115 mph on public roads
in heavy "bumper-to-bumper" traffic is nothing to be proud of; it's
outright stupid. That's what the track is for.
Cheers,
Pete |
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cp
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Sun Sep 25, 2005 8:12 am Post subject:
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| Quote: | 100mph? I hope you're kidding me :-) you mean 155mph? German middle aged women drive 120mph in their diesel volkswagens and you
want to drive your S6 100mph? :-) I've driven in bumper to bumper rush hour traffic at 115mph, in the traffic laden tunnels of
paris at 140mph, so what's 100mph for a S6? Any 1994 cavalier will do that :-)
When getting caught at that speed makes one go to jail, suddenly the bravery appears to vanish. Of course the trick is to not get
caugth, I know. :)
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When driving in the US I keep to whatever everyone else is doing. I know of four fellow Canadians who were arrested for driving
leisurely over 100mph. To us outside the US that's just whacked. Now speeding on city streets, that's a different matter. I'd have
no mercy on anyone speeding in a residential neighbourhood, like what's done around here.
| Quote: | At the risk of sounding like a preacher, driving 115 mph on public roads in heavy "bumper-to-bumper" traffic is nothing to be
proud of; it's outright stupid. That's what the track is for.
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I'm talking about Europe. Different reality. Expert drivers. Would you call race car drivers stupid for going 150mph bumper to
bumper? No, because it's a controlled environment with expert drivers. So are the autobahns to a lesser extent. That's why I said
American tourists are a danger on the autobahn. That's not anecdotal evidence, it's reality, as I've found out from personal
experience. eg. look up on gnutella autobahn vids; one of them will be a retard driving a mustang at 155mph with one hand and taping
with the other, now that is utter stupidity.
Anyways, enjoy your Audi, my 20 year old sure fun :-)
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gcmschemist@gmail.com
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Mon Sep 26, 2005 3:35 am Post subject:
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cp wrote:
| Quote: | ooooh S6, I'd love to have that if I was living in Europe
Yeah, it sucks to be in the U.S. with this car - I always want to punch
it up to 100.
100mph? I hope you're kidding me :-) you mean 155mph?
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I mean on roads signed for 55-60mph. If I were to be caught, I would
spend some time in jail, at least in this state.
I have done it several times while passing slower traffic. Hang back,
drop two gears, judge the opening, get on boost, shoot past the timid
drivers at 100, get back into my lane. You can swallow up 4-7 cars at
a time, with no worries of oncoming traffic.
I'd like to just run at 100 all the time, but that'll get me into
trouble. :)
Yes, 155 would be nice, but the roads around here are not suitable for
that speed. The interstates would work OK for that, as long as I did
it on a stretch with no other traffic. Which is Utopia, unfortunately.
Boost is way fun, even this kind of K24 turbo boost. No action,
really, until about 3300rpm, then "Yeehaw!" Keep it above 3300, and
life goes by at a very fast pace. [vbg]
Now I want to chip it - it's totally stock right now. But then I'm
sure I'd get the "blue light special", so I'm going to hold off for
now.
E.P.
UrS6, and loving every second of it. |
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