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Harry Face
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Tue Nov 30, 2004 5:41 am Post subject:
15 Pass Van Illegal In Fla? |
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A cousin of mine who was up here after Thanksgiving said that it is
illegal to drive 15 passenger vans in the state of Florida.
I haven't heard of this. Is this true?
I know the vans are under close scrutiny for safety / rollover issues,
but I wouldn't think they would be banned from use.
My cousin said they rented a Ford 15 passenger van to go to Disneyworld.
They removed the rear seat - with 11 people there was more room for
luggage.
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89 Cavalier Z 24 convertible
78 Holiday 88 coupe
68 LeSabre convertible
73 Impala sedan
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noname
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Tue Nov 30, 2004 6:04 pm Post subject:
Re: 15 Pass Van Illegal In Fla? |
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Hey Harry, how's it goin?
What's illegal is to use a 15 pass van for school bus use.
The State law here in OK says "for transportation of school children".
It does not say anything about private use or use by daycares and churches.
"Harry Face" <harryface@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:10422-41ABED8B-112@storefull-3117.bay.webtv.net...
| Quote: | A cousin of mine who was up here after Thanksgiving said that it is
illegal to drive 15 passenger vans in the state of Florida.
I haven't heard of this. Is this true?
I know the vans are under close scrutiny for safety / rollover issues,
but I wouldn't think they would be banned from use.
My cousin said they rented a Ford 15 passenger van to go to Disneyworld.
They removed the rear seat - with 11 people there was more room for
luggage.
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Harryface
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1991 Pontiac Bonneville LE
3800 V6 ( C ), Black/Slate Grey
_~_~_~296,339 miles_~_~_
~_~_~_~_U.S.A._~_~_~_~_~_
~~~The Former Fleet ~~~
89 Cavalier Z 24 convertible
78 Holiday 88 coupe
68 LeSabre convertible
73 Impala sedan
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Mark Sparge
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Tue Nov 30, 2004 6:32 pm Post subject:
Re: 15 Pass Van Illegal In Fla? |
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harryface@webtv.net (Harry Face) wrote in message news:<10422-41ABED8B-112@storefull-3117.bay.webtv.net>...
| Quote: | A cousin of mine who was up here after Thanksgiving said that it is
illegal to drive 15 passenger vans in the state of Florida.
I haven't heard of this. Is this true?
I know the vans are under close scrutiny for safety / rollover issues,
but I wouldn't think they would be banned from use.
My cousin said they rented a Ford 15 passenger van to go to Disneyworld.
They removed the rear seat - with 11 people there was more room for
luggage.
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Harryface
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1991 Pontiac Bonneville LE
3800 V6 ( C ), Black/Slate Grey
_~_~_~296,339 miles_~_~_
~_~_~_~_U.S.A._~_~_~_~_~_
~~~The Former Fleet ~~~
89 Cavalier Z 24 convertible
78 Holiday 88 coupe
68 LeSabre convertible
73 Impala sedan
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No -- they are not illegal. I have a 15 passenger Dodge Maxi, and
there are many 15 passenger vans used by churches, schools, and county
and state agencies (usually for prisoner transport). I suspect that
the rental agency was trying to limit their liability by removing the
rearmost seat (the one that's most likely to start the lateral
"pendulum" effect.
Mark Cronk
94 Chevy Astro 255,900 miles
99 Ford Exploder
01 Dodge Maxi
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Refinish_King1
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Tue Nov 30, 2004 8:02 pm Post subject:
Re: 15 Pass Van Illegal In Fla? |
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Harry:
Maybe they thought you were an illegal smuggler?
LOFL!
Refinish King
PS
Maybe you fit the stereotype? I get screwed with everywhere I go, so don't
sweat it, life's a bowl of cherries and the fertilizer used to make the tree
grow!
"Harry Face" <harryface@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:10422-41ABED8B-112@storefull-3117.bay.webtv.net...
| Quote: | A cousin of mine who was up here after Thanksgiving said that it is
illegal to drive 15 passenger vans in the state of Florida.
I haven't heard of this. Is this true?
I know the vans are under close scrutiny for safety / rollover issues,
but I wouldn't think they would be banned from use.
My cousin said they rented a Ford 15 passenger van to go to Disneyworld.
They removed the rear seat - with 11 people there was more room for
luggage.
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Harryface
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1991 Pontiac Bonneville LE
3800 V6 ( C ), Black/Slate Grey
_~_~_~296,339 miles_~_~_
~_~_~_~_U.S.A._~_~_~_~_~_
~~~The Former Fleet ~~~
89 Cavalier Z 24 convertible
78 Holiday 88 coupe
68 LeSabre convertible
73 Impala sedan
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Tue Nov 30, 2004 8:16 pm Post subject:
Re: 15 Pass Van Illegal In Fla? |
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You heard wrong, such a ban would violate the federal governments
sole constitution right to regulate interstate commerce. The
only exception could be the states right to regulate utilities,
like intrastate buses or taxis
mike hunt
noname wrote:
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Hey Harry, how's it goin?
What's illegal is to use a 15 pass van for school bus use.
The State law here in OK says "for transportation of school children".
It does not say anything about private use or use by daycares and churches.
"Harry Face" <harryface@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:10422-41ABED8B-112@storefull-3117.bay.webtv.net...
A cousin of mine who was up here after Thanksgiving said that it is
illegal to drive 15 passenger vans in the state of Florida.
I haven't heard of this. Is this true?
I know the vans are under close scrutiny for safety / rollover issues,
but I wouldn't think they would be banned from use.
My cousin said they rented a Ford 15 passenger van to go to Disneyworld.
They removed the rear seat - with 11 people there was more room for
luggage.
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Harryface
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1991 Pontiac Bonneville LE
3800 V6 ( C ), Black/Slate Grey
_~_~_~296,339 miles_~_~_
~_~_~_~_U.S.A._~_~_~_~_~_
~~~The Former Fleet ~~~
89 Cavalier Z 24 convertible
78 Holiday 88 coupe
68 LeSabre convertible
73 Impala sedan
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Shep
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Wed Dec 01, 2004 4:45 am Post subject:
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Harry sounds like the rental company's policy to not have the addt'l weight
in the rear, or maybe 15 passengers requires some kind of different
insurance coverage?
"Harry Face" <harryface@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:10422-41ABED8B-112@storefull-3117.bay.webtv.net...
| Quote: | A cousin of mine who was up here after Thanksgiving said that it is
illegal to drive 15 passenger vans in the state of Florida.
I haven't heard of this. Is this true?
I know the vans are under close scrutiny for safety / rollover issues,
but I wouldn't think they would be banned from use.
My cousin said they rented a Ford 15 passenger van to go to Disneyworld.
They removed the rear seat - with 11 people there was more room for
luggage.
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Harryface
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1991 Pontiac Bonneville LE
3800 V6 ( C ), Black/Slate Grey
_~_~_~296,339 miles_~_~_
~_~_~_~_U.S.A._~_~_~_~_~_
~~~The Former Fleet ~~~
89 Cavalier Z 24 convertible
78 Holiday 88 coupe
68 LeSabre convertible
73 Impala sedan
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Hank
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Wed Dec 01, 2004 5:41 am Post subject:
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It's "D"
"Jonathan Race" <jonrace@earthlink.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I don't think it's about extra insurance coverage, I believe that when you
go over 12 passengers the driver needs a commercial license with a bus
endorsement (I've forgotten what class - C or D maybe?).
Cheers - Jonathan
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"Shep" <djsljsrn@capital.net> wrote in message
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Harry sounds like the rental company's policy to not have the addt'l
weight in the rear, or maybe 15 passengers requires some kind of
different insurance coverage?
"Harry Face" <harryface@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:10422-41ABED8B-112@storefull-3117.bay.webtv.net...
A cousin of mine who was up here after Thanksgiving said that it is
illegal to drive 15 passenger vans in the state of Florida.
I haven't heard of this. Is this true?
I know the vans are under close scrutiny for safety / rollover issues,
but I wouldn't think they would be banned from use.
My cousin said they rented a Ford 15 passenger van to go to Disneyworld.
They removed the rear seat - with 11 people there was more room for
luggage.
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Harryface
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1991 Pontiac Bonneville LE
3800 V6 ( C ), Black/Slate Grey
_~_~_~296,339 miles_~_~_
~_~_~_~_U.S.A._~_~_~_~_~_
~~~The Former Fleet ~~~
89 Cavalier Z 24 convertible
78 Holiday 88 coupe
68 LeSabre convertible
73 Impala sedan
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Jonathan Race
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Wed Dec 01, 2004 5:41 am Post subject:
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I don't think it's about extra insurance coverage, I believe that when you
go over 12 passengers the driver needs a commercial license with a bus
endorsement (I've forgotten what class - C or D maybe?).
Cheers - Jonathan
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Lieutenant, EMS Supervisor
Orange County (FL) Fire Rescue Department
(This message may contain personal opinions and/or information not related
to my employment or employer)
"Shep" <djsljsrn@capital.net> wrote in message
news:41ad04ed$1_2@127.0.0.1...
| Quote: | Harry sounds like the rental company's policy to not have the addt'l
weight in the rear, or maybe 15 passengers requires some kind of different
insurance coverage?
"Harry Face" <harryface@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:10422-41ABED8B-112@storefull-3117.bay.webtv.net...
A cousin of mine who was up here after Thanksgiving said that it is
illegal to drive 15 passenger vans in the state of Florida.
I haven't heard of this. Is this true?
I know the vans are under close scrutiny for safety / rollover issues,
but I wouldn't think they would be banned from use.
My cousin said they rented a Ford 15 passenger van to go to Disneyworld.
They removed the rear seat - with 11 people there was more room for
luggage.
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Harryface
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1991 Pontiac Bonneville LE
3800 V6 ( C ), Black/Slate Grey
_~_~_~296,339 miles_~_~_
~_~_~_~_U.S.A._~_~_~_~_~_
~~~The Former Fleet ~~~
89 Cavalier Z 24 convertible
78 Holiday 88 coupe
68 LeSabre convertible
73 Impala sedan
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Dennis Smith
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Wed Dec 01, 2004 9:36 am Post subject:
Re: 15 Pass Van Illegal In Fla? |
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In article <10422-41ABED8B-112@storefull-3117.bay.webtv.net>,
harryface@webtv.net says...
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A cousin of mine who was up here after Thanksgiving said that it is
illegal to drive 15 passenger vans in the state of Florida.
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I don't know about that. There's a reason why they are 15 passenger and
not 16 or 17 passenger.
16 or more passengers require a CDL class D bus license.
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-1971 Trans Am - 455 H.O. - M21 4speed - Cameo white/blue stripe-
< http://ps2page.tripod.com/my71ta/tapage.html >
-1973 Trans Am - 455 - TH400 auto - Buccaneer red-
-1984 Trans Am - 5.0 L - TH700R4 auto - Royal blue/silver aero-
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noname
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Wed Dec 01, 2004 6:13 pm Post subject:
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Right Dennis.
I have a fleet of 8 Dodge Maxi B3500's and we limit out pass. to 10
including driver.
There was a report about 2 or 3 years ago from the NTSB that says that in
their research,
the rollovers increased in severity when the number of pass. was more than
10.
Also, watch the tires.
That's the whole deal.
Tires.
We run very heavy duty truck tires, keep them rotated, watch the inflation
and replace them often.
I do not compare the value of the life of one of my customers against a
couple hundred dollars for a set of tires.
We already make enough money without cutting corners on safety.
"Dennis Smith" <ps2guru@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:cok3ae$r5j$1@news.doit.wisc.edu...
| Quote: | In article <10422-41ABED8B-112@storefull-3117.bay.webtv.net>,
harryface@webtv.net says...
A cousin of mine who was up here after Thanksgiving said that it is
illegal to drive 15 passenger vans in the state of Florida.
I don't know about that. There's a reason why they are 15 passenger and
not 16 or 17 passenger.
16 or more passengers require a CDL class D bus license.
--
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Dennis Smith
-1971 Trans Am - 455 H.O. - M21 4speed - Cameo white/blue stripe-
http://ps2page.tripod.com/my71ta/tapage.html
-1973 Trans Am - 455 - TH400 auto - Buccaneer red-
-1984 Trans Am - 5.0 L - TH700R4 auto - Royal blue/silver aero-
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Harry Face
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Thu Dec 02, 2004 5:31 am Post subject:
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From what I recollect, my cousin took the rear seat out - not the
rental company. And from what he said to mean was you Can't drive a 15
passenger van in Florida, period !
Most times we just let him talk and we nod alot.
LOL.
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Harryface
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1991 Pontiac Bonneville LE
3800 V6 ( C ), Black/Slate Grey
_~_~_~296,339 miles_~_~_
~_~_~_~_U.S.A._~_~_~_~_~_
~~~The Former Fleet ~~~
89 Cavalier Z 24 convertible
78 Holiday 88 coupe
68 LeSabre convertible
73 Impala sedan |
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