| Author |
Message |
Guest
|
 Posted:
Tue Aug 30, 2005 3:46 am Post subject:
Re: Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth and the life: no on |
|
|
On 2005-08-29, R. Pierce Butler <spamsucks@google.com> wrote:
| Quote: | "Awful Knopfel" <reply@usenet.org> wrote in
news:yBSPe.568$wE1.38@trndny01:
"Suzanne D." <sdallape@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:sTIOe.9837$ih4.3995@fe02.lga...
"Psycho" <psycho@tbcia.net> wrote in message
news:11vkg1tumfngsd2ei8pnisf7vjfs63lgot@4ax.com...
On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 03:23:41 -0600, "Suzanne D." <sdallape@yahoo.com
wrote:
God is obsolete. The idea of a deity was necessary long ago when
early humans needed a way to explain so many of the strange things
they found in
nature. The Greek myths are a wonderful example of this. The Greeks
invented gods and supernatural beings to explain nearly everything
found in
nature, from lightning to grasshoppers, and when science explained and
clarified these things, their gods became obsolete, existing today
only as
fascinating stories.
Similarly, the modern god that Christians believe in is a throwback to
the
time before we had science to explain so many of the natural phenomena
that
we find around us. Early people didn't understand death and birth and
life
and nature, and they could only explain these things through the
invention
of an imaginary all-powerful being that takes care of it all for us
without
our having to think too much about it. But now that so much is
explained or
at least explainable through science, the concept of god is no longer
needed. The only difference between modern Christians and the ancient
Greeks is that the Greeks were wise enough to know when to move on to
something more plausible.
--S.
And they moved on to what exactly? My guess it's still religion.
Unfortunately, you have a good point. The Greeks left behind their
obviously unnecessary gods in favor of a less-obviously unnecessary
god. My point in bringing it up was to illustrate how people are apt to
create supernatural beings to explain things that they have a hard time
understanding. Simply because people created the myth of god doesn't
mean he/she/it exists. It only means people needed an explanation for
things they couldn't yet explain through science.
Interesting idea.
God evolves.
Mankind doesn't.
I wonder what motorcycle Jesus would ride.
|
She probably takes the bus most of the time but owns a scooter or
moped.Maybe a mountain bike too.
And remember Jesus was a Capricorn.
--
Wes Dukes (wdukes.pobox@com) Swap the . and the @ to email me please.
spam@www.spam.com is a garbage address.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Suzanne D.
Guest
|
| Posted:
Tue Aug 30, 2005 2:25 pm Post subject:
Re: Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth and the life: no on |
|
|
<wdukes@fw.private.neotoma.org> wrote in message
news:slrndh73iv.qeq.wdukes@fw.private.neotoma.org...
| Quote: | On 2005-08-29, Suzanne D. <sdallape@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Dave" <dave2972@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:tGCQe.14548$FA3.865@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
"Suzanne D." <sdallape@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:fBAQe.8273$Yh6.8036@fe04.lga...
"CaptainW116" <benznut450@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Yeah,I'm down for good old fashioned Polygamy.A big 'ol pimp Brigham
Young was ;-) I wonder what that was like dealing with synchronized
menstruation?
That's probably WHY Joseph Smith started the polygamy thing in the
first
place, the big horndog!
--S.
What is the point of religion if you can't twist it to your own personal
sexual fantasies, extract money from the gullible and lead the
weak-willed.
"I just got a revelation. God said we must all eat nothing but
chocolate."
My "spirit of the universe" told me to add some coffee and peanutbutter.
|
God came to me in a dream and told me I would be eternally damned unless I
had sex with Constantine Maroulis.
--S. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Dori A Schmetterling
Guest
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
R. Pierce Butler
Guest
|
| Posted:
Tue Aug 30, 2005 7:44 pm Post subject:
Re: Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth and the life: no on |
|
|
wdukes@fw.private.neotoma.org wrote in
news:slrndh73oh.qeq.wdukes@fw.private.neotoma.org:
| Quote: | On 2005-08-29, R. Pierce Butler <spamsucks@google.com> wrote:
"Awful Knopfel" <reply@usenet.org> wrote in
news:yBSPe.568$wE1.38@trndny01:
"Suzanne D." <sdallape@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:sTIOe.9837$ih4.3995@fe02.lga...
"Psycho" <psycho@tbcia.net> wrote in message
news:11vkg1tumfngsd2ei8pnisf7vjfs63lgot@4ax.com...
On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 03:23:41 -0600, "Suzanne D."
sdallape@yahoo.com> wrote:
God is obsolete. The idea of a deity was necessary long ago when
early humans needed a way to explain so many of the strange things
they found in
nature. The Greek myths are a wonderful example of this. The
Greeks invented gods and supernatural beings to explain nearly
everything found in
nature, from lightning to grasshoppers, and when science explained
and clarified these things, their gods became obsolete, existing
today only as
fascinating stories.
Similarly, the modern god that Christians believe in is a throwback
to the
time before we had science to explain so many of the natural
phenomena that
we find around us. Early people didn't understand death and birth
and life
and nature, and they could only explain these things through the
invention
of an imaginary all-powerful being that takes care of it all for us
without
our having to think too much about it. But now that so much is
explained or
at least explainable through science, the concept of god is no
longer needed. The only difference between modern Christians and
the ancient Greeks is that the Greeks were wise enough to know when
to move on to something more plausible.
--S.
And they moved on to what exactly? My guess it's still religion.
Unfortunately, you have a good point. The Greeks left behind their
obviously unnecessary gods in favor of a less-obviously unnecessary
god. My point in bringing it up was to illustrate how people are apt
to create supernatural beings to explain things that they have a hard
time understanding. Simply because people created the myth of god
doesn't mean he/she/it exists. It only means people needed an
explanation for things they couldn't yet explain through science.
Interesting idea.
God evolves.
Mankind doesn't.
I wonder what motorcycle Jesus would ride.
She probably takes the bus most of the time but owns a scooter or
moped.Maybe a mountain bike too.
And remember Jesus was a Capricorn.
|
I think jesus would ride a big cruiser with straight pipes or possibly a
'busa. I don't think Jesus would ride a GL. Too ostentatious for Jesus.
Of course his neighbors would be pissed off at the noise, but hey, one has
to at least give the impression of authority. Jesus with his do-rag,
ponytail, a tatoo on one arm that says "I am the Way", another tatoo on
the other arm that says "Peacemaker", a very hot Mary Magdeline on the
back, and his 12 buddies all cruising around the countryside. Yup, that's
my Jesus. If he ever dropped it or had some other accident he would say
"Daddy, dammit", get up, bless his bike and his bike would be made whole
again. If while you were riding with Jesus and your bike would quit, all
you would have to do is have Jesus come over and bless it and it would be
fixed.
My sister was talking about the incident where Jesus fed the crowd with a
few loaves and fishes. I told her that while he certanly did do that, he
held out the Twinkies and Ho-Ho's for his buddies.
pierce |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Guest
|
| Posted:
Wed Aug 31, 2005 5:55 am Post subject:
Re: Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth and the life: no on |
|
|
On 2005-08-30, R. Pierce Butler <spamsucks@google.com> wrote:
| Quote: | wdukes@fw.private.neotoma.org wrote in
news:slrndh73oh.qeq.wdukes@fw.private.neotoma.org:
On 2005-08-29, R. Pierce Butler <spamsucks@google.com> wrote:
"Awful Knopfel" <reply@usenet.org> wrote in
news:yBSPe.568$wE1.38@trndny01:
"Suzanne D." <sdallape@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:sTIOe.9837$ih4.3995@fe02.lga...
"Psycho" <psycho@tbcia.net> wrote in message
news:11vkg1tumfngsd2ei8pnisf7vjfs63lgot@4ax.com...
On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 03:23:41 -0600, "Suzanne D."
sdallape@yahoo.com> wrote:
God is obsolete. The idea of a deity was necessary long ago when
early humans needed a way to explain so many of the strange things
they found in
nature. The Greek myths are a wonderful example of this. The
Greeks invented gods and supernatural beings to explain nearly
everything found in
nature, from lightning to grasshoppers, and when science explained
and clarified these things, their gods became obsolete, existing
today only as
fascinating stories.
Similarly, the modern god that Christians believe in is a throwback
to the
time before we had science to explain so many of the natural
phenomena that
we find around us. Early people didn't understand death and birth
and life
and nature, and they could only explain these things through the
invention
of an imaginary all-powerful being that takes care of it all for us
without
our having to think too much about it. But now that so much is
explained or
at least explainable through science, the concept of god is no
longer needed. The only difference between modern Christians and
the ancient Greeks is that the Greeks were wise enough to know when
to move on to something more plausible.
--S.
And they moved on to what exactly? My guess it's still religion.
Unfortunately, you have a good point. The Greeks left behind their
obviously unnecessary gods in favor of a less-obviously unnecessary
god. My point in bringing it up was to illustrate how people are apt
to create supernatural beings to explain things that they have a hard
time understanding. Simply because people created the myth of god
doesn't mean he/she/it exists. It only means people needed an
explanation for things they couldn't yet explain through science.
Interesting idea.
God evolves.
Mankind doesn't.
I wonder what motorcycle Jesus would ride.
She probably takes the bus most of the time but owns a scooter or
moped.Maybe a mountain bike too.
And remember Jesus was a Capricorn.
I think jesus would ride a big cruiser with straight pipes or possibly a
'busa. I don't think Jesus would ride a GL. Too ostentatious for Jesus.
Of course his neighbors would be pissed off at the noise, but hey, one has
to at least give the impression of authority. Jesus with his do-rag,
ponytail, a tatoo on one arm that says "I am the Way", another tatoo on
the other arm that says "Peacemaker", a very hot Mary Magdeline on the
back, and his 12 buddies all cruising around the countryside. Yup, that's
|
And Judas looks like Dennis Hopper or Jack Nickelson?
| Quote: | my Jesus. If he ever dropped it or had some other accident he would say
"Daddy, dammit", get up, bless his bike and his bike would be made whole
again. If while you were riding with Jesus and your bike would quit, all
you would have to do is have Jesus come over and bless it and it would be
fixed.
My sister was talking about the incident where Jesus fed the crowd with a
few loaves and fishes. I told her that while he certanly did do that, he
held out the Twinkies and Ho-Ho's for his buddies.
pierce
|
--
Wes Dukes (wdukes.pobox@com) Swap the . and the @ to email me please.
spam@www.spam.com is a garbage address. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
no one
Guest
|
| Posted:
Thu Sep 01, 2005 2:30 am Post subject:
Re: Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth and the life: no on |
|
|
Suzanne D. wrote:
| Quote: | "no one" <noone@nowhere.nohow.invalid> wrote in message
news:11h0tk1s68nadcd@news.supernews.com...
Doug wrote:
How the fuck do you know? Can you PROVE there is NO God? Guess not, eh
asshole.
Can you prove there is?
And before you even start, the bible is NOT PROOF. You have to prove there
is a god BEFORE citing the bible.
I was in a religion class once wherein we were talking about the
authenticity of the bible. A few people suggested that it was a work of
fiction; a collection of fables and allegories to help people make good
judgments. One girl raised her hand and said, "But if the bible were fake,
wouldn't god have destroyed it?"
--S.
|
Fundamental question .... Who (and when) decided which "books" were
authentic and would be included in the bible? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
R. Pierce Butler
Guest
|
| Posted:
Thu Sep 01, 2005 4:55 am Post subject:
Re: Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth and the life: no on |
|
|
wdukes@fw.private.neotoma.org wrote in
news:slrndh9vmv.990.wdukes@fw.private.neotoma.org:
| Quote: | to at least give the impression of authority. Jesus with his do-rag,
ponytail, a tatoo on one arm that says "I am the Way", another tatoo on
the other arm that says "Peacemaker", a very hot Mary Magdeline on the
back, and his 12 buddies all cruising around the countryside. Yup, that's
And Judas looks like Dennis Hopper or Jack Nickelson?
|
Nah, Leoardo DeCrappio. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Ript
Guest
|
| Posted:
Thu Sep 01, 2005 8:12 am Post subject:
Re: Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth and the life: no on |
|
|
cyndiann <cyndiann9@earthlink.net> wrote in news:gi4Oe.7441$RZ2.7358
@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net:
| Quote: | Doug wrote:
How the fuck do you know? Can you PROVE there is NO God? Guess not, eh
asshole.
Nobody has ever proven there is a God.
|
Of course not, that would ruin it for us believers!
--
1984 RZ350 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
R. Pierce Butler
Guest
|
| Posted:
Fri Sep 02, 2005 8:14 am Post subject:
Re: Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth and the life: no on |
|
|
"CaptainW116" <benznut450@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1125284759.639965.154190@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
| Quote: |
Suzanne D. wrote:
"Awful Knopfel" <reply@usenet.org> wrote in message
news:RCRPe.89$LK.60@trndny09...
And if you could examine all the beliefs ever held by mankind, you'd
have quite a chuckle.
I live among Mormons here in southern Utah, and when non-Mormons make
fun of the strange beliefs held by Mormons, I have to laugh. Magic
decoder glasses, baptizing the long-dead, secret handshakes and secret
names to be called when it is time to enter heaven, and magic
protective underwear is really ridiculous, but then again so is the
idea of a virgin birth, a guy walking on water, and turning a couple of
loaves of bread into a meal for hundreds of people. When it is your
own religion, you tend to ignore how idiotic it is and make fun of the
goofy beliefs of everyone else, but when you are on the outside looking
in, they ALL seem equally idiotic. --S.
(Equal Opportunity Ridiculer)
Yeah,I'm down for good old fashioned Polygamy.A big 'ol pimp Brigham
Young was ;-) I wonder what that was like dealing with synchronized
menstruation? Scares me just thinking about it!!!
|
Did you ever see pictures of his first wife? The guy must have been
terminally horny. Me? I wouln't do her with your junk. Hideous.
pierce |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Suzanne D.
Guest
|
| Posted:
Mon Sep 05, 2005 1:25 am Post subject:
Re: Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth and the life: no on |
|
|
"no one" <noone@nowhere.nohow.invalid> wrote in message
news:11hc8b4nceos39b@news.supernews.com...
| Quote: | Suzanne D. wrote:
"no one" <noone@nowhere.nohow.invalid> wrote in message
news:11h0tk1s68nadcd@news.supernews.com...
Doug wrote:
How the fuck do you know? Can you PROVE there is NO God? Guess not, eh
asshole.
Can you prove there is?
And before you even start, the bible is NOT PROOF. You have to prove
there is a god BEFORE citing the bible.
I was in a religion class once wherein we were talking about the
authenticity of the bible. A few people suggested that it was a work of
fiction; a collection of fables and allegories to help people make good
judgments. One girl raised her hand and said, "But if the bible were
fake, wouldn't god have destroyed it?"
--S.
Fundamental question .... Who (and when) decided which "books" were
authentic and would be included in the bible?
|
"Okay, young writers! This creative writing contest has been a hoot, but as
you all know, we have a finite amount of space in this new book and can't
include them all. So we are going to assign each book a number and put all
the numbers in this big hat, and our lovely spokesmodel Mary Magdalene will
choose the winners at random..."
--S. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
George
Guest
|
| Posted:
Sat Sep 10, 2005 12:43 am Post subject:
Re: Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth and the life: no on |
|
|
Still waiting for a reply after three weeks ... if you're going to call
other people assholes, I think that you need to show why this is correct.
"Prove there is a god" sounds like a reasonable request to me, given your
reply ... why do you not answer?
Frankly, it looks like you're the asshole pal. Of course, I await your
shattering denial of our aethism, and am prepared to repent in full given
this. Failing the proof, I'll revert to my original opinion of you.
Sensible, grown-up replies please, without the ill-founded insults.
"The OTHER Kevin in San Diego" <skiddz "AT" adelphia "DOT" net> wrote in
message news:rorig1pa1khreg3ipojindvesi89onrers@4ax.com...
| Quote: | On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 18:00:20 GMT, "Doug" <pigdos@nospam.com> wrote:
How the fuck do you know? Can you PROVE there is NO God? Guess not, eh
asshole.
OK, prove there IS one... |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Tom Disque
Guest
|
| Posted:
Mon Sep 12, 2005 5:17 pm Post subject:
Re: Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth and the life: no on |
|
|
On Fri, 9 Sep 2005 20:43:34 +0100, "George" <nobody@home.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Still waiting for a reply after three weeks ... if you're going to call
other people assholes, I think that you need to show why this is correct.
"Prove there is a god" sounds like a reasonable request to me, given your
reply ... why do you not answer?
Frankly, it looks like you're the asshole pal. Of course, I await your
shattering denial of our aethism, and am prepared to repent in full given
this. Failing the proof, I'll revert to my original opinion of you.
Sensible, grown-up replies please, without the ill-founded insults.
"The OTHER Kevin in San Diego" <skiddz "AT" adelphia "DOT" net> wrote in
message news:rorig1pa1khreg3ipojindvesi89onrers@4ax.com...
On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 18:00:20 GMT, "Doug" <pigdos@nospam.com> wrote:
How the fuck do you know? Can you PROVE there is NO God? Guess not, eh
asshole.
OK, prove there IS one...
|
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=atheist&x=15&y=18
Atheist: one who believes that there is no deity
But since the rules of logic dictate that one cannot prove a negative,
and since no one can conclusively prove that there IS a God, the best
anyone can hope for is agnosticism. Except that sounds too much like
a disease!
Personally, I prefer to keep my science and religion separate. There
is no place for faith in science, and no need for faith in religion if
its tenets could be proven. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Guest
|
| Posted:
Mon Sep 12, 2005 9:20 pm Post subject:
Re: Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth and the life: no on |
|
|
On 2005-09-12, Tom Disque <Tom.Disque@sas.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On Fri, 9 Sep 2005 20:43:34 +0100, "George" <nobody@home.com> wrote:
Still waiting for a reply after three weeks ... if you're going to call
other people assholes, I think that you need to show why this is correct.
"Prove there is a god" sounds like a reasonable request to me, given your
reply ... why do you not answer?
Frankly, it looks like you're the asshole pal. Of course, I await your
shattering denial of our aethism, and am prepared to repent in full given
this. Failing the proof, I'll revert to my original opinion of you.
Sensible, grown-up replies please, without the ill-founded insults.
"The OTHER Kevin in San Diego" <skiddz "AT" adelphia "DOT" net> wrote in
message news:rorig1pa1khreg3ipojindvesi89onrers@4ax.com...
On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 18:00:20 GMT, "Doug" <pigdos@nospam.com> wrote:
How the fuck do you know? Can you PROVE there is NO God? Guess not, eh
asshole.
OK, prove there IS one...
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=atheist&x=15&y=18
Atheist: one who believes that there is no deity
But since the rules of logic dictate that one cannot prove a negative,
and since no one can conclusively prove that there IS a God, the best
anyone can hope for is agnosticism. Except that sounds too much like
a disease!
Personally, I prefer to keep my science and religion separate. There
is no place for faith in science, and no need for faith in religion if
its tenets could be proven.
|
Atheist are in the same boat as someone believing in god. THey put
their faith in not believing in god.
As an agnostic, I am prepared to accept either outcome.
There does need to be faith in science. A scientist has faith that they
are extending knowledge. Even if an experiment or theory fails, they at
least know what won't work, and they have faith they can try again
tomorrow. Which is not much different from the believer and
non-believer in god above. Faith is a very powerful thing that can be
misused by all.
All put their pants on the same way (unless they are very agile or have
prepositioned their pants the night before).
--
Wes Dukes (wdukes.pobox@com) Swap the . and the @ to email me please.
spam@www.spam.com is a garbage address. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
R. Pierce Butler
Guest
|
| Posted:
Tue Sep 13, 2005 6:36 pm Post subject:
Re: Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth and the life: no on |
|
|
wdukes@fw.private.neotoma.org wrote in
news:slrndibabs.o7b.wdukes@fw.private.neotoma.org:
| Quote: | On 2005-09-12, Tom Disque <Tom.Disque@sas.com> wrote:
On Fri, 9 Sep 2005 20:43:34 +0100, "George" <nobody@home.com> wrote:
Still waiting for a reply after three weeks ... if you're going to call
other people assholes, I think that you need to show why this is
correct.
"Prove there is a god" sounds like a reasonable request to me, given
your reply ... why do you not answer?
Frankly, it looks like you're the asshole pal. Of course, I await your
shattering denial of our aethism, and am prepared to repent in full
given this. Failing the proof, I'll revert to my original opinion of
you.
Sensible, grown-up replies please, without the ill-founded insults.
"The OTHER Kevin in San Diego" <skiddz "AT" adelphia "DOT" net> wrote
in message news:rorig1pa1khreg3ipojindvesi89onrers@4ax.com...
On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 18:00:20 GMT, "Doug" <pigdos@nospam.com> wrote:
How the fuck do you know? Can you PROVE there is NO God? Guess not,
eh asshole.
OK, prove there IS one...
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=atheist&x=15&y=
18
Atheist: one who believes that there is no deity
But since the rules of logic dictate that one cannot prove a negative,
and since no one can conclusively prove that there IS a God, the best
anyone can hope for is agnosticism. Except that sounds too much like
a disease!
Personally, I prefer to keep my science and religion separate. There
is no place for faith in science, and no need for faith in religion if
its tenets could be proven.
Atheist are in the same boat as someone believing in god. THey put
their faith in not believing in god.
|
Actually atheists don't have any faith at all. They will happily believe
in any god provided there is proof that he exists. As it stands, there is
no proof that the christian gods or jesus even existed outside of the
bible. Since the bible is rejected by atheists, so are the 'proofs" used
by christians.
pierce |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
MichaelETP
Guest
|
| Posted:
Sat Oct 29, 2005 8:13 am Post subject:
Re: Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth and the life: no on |
|
|
Like I always tell my kids, "don't expect gifts from santa claus if
you don't believe in him.
| Quote: | spam@www.spam.com is a garbage address.
Just for the record everyone who is reading this thread,I really do
apologize for being so graphic with my post.
But no,there is no God IMO!!! Even IF there was,he has really enjoyed
crapping on me throughout my entire life.
The saying "well I'll be a monkeys uncle" makes more sense!!!
|
Thanks
Michael |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
|
|
FAQ
Memberlist
Register
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in