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Richard Sperry
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Wed Dec 01, 2004 8:18 pm Post subject:
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X3? X5? why bother buying a BMW version? There are a bunch of vehicles that
will do the job, (whatever that is) for a lot less money. I think they are
Big, heavy, pretty much useless, POS. They are built because they have a lot
of profit potential in them. I mean even Porsche builds one of the damn
things.
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Vernon Balbert
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Thu Dec 02, 2004 12:22 am Post subject:
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Richard Sperry wrote:
| Quote: | X3? X5? why bother buying a BMW version? There are a bunch of vehicles that
will do the job, (whatever that is) for a lot less money. I think they are
Big, heavy, pretty much useless, POS. They are built because they have a lot
of profit potential in them. I mean even Porsche builds one of the damn
things.
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How many people buy SUVs to go offroad? I would be surprised if 5% of
the owners actually did go offroad.
However, they are large and when you're driving one (my girlfriend has a
Tahoe that when we drive that around I do the driving) gives quite a
different perspective and feeling. The very things that cause the most
complaints (the size, the engine size which guzzles gas) are those that
give drivers a feeling of power and makes driving a tad less boring than
a Chrysler minivan.
Rover has a great selling point where they take drivers on an artificial
offroad area to show how the car works. I'm sure that people think get
a charge out of that and then have a perceived usefulness of the vehicle
when they could easily have done with a station wagon or minivan.
It's all about perception and image, not about whether or not somebody
is going to turn off the road and go up in the mountains like the
commercials show.
And lets face it, some of those reasons are the same ones that impel a
lot of us to buy BMWs. But then while I don't go at speeds approaching
145 mph (I'd like to try that sometime, though) I do use the nimbleness
and the accelleration and so on of my 530i to enjoy driving a lot more
than I did with my old Toyota Corona (which was a very nice and faithful
car.)
Driving cars like we drive isn't about practicality. How many of use
really need a car that can do 0 to 60 in a record time? (I notice the
2005 M5 can accelerate faster than some motorcycles.) If you want to be
practical you'd buy a much less expensive car with higher gas mileage
and a smaller engine. How many people really need a navigation system?
Or an engine with 200+ horsepower? (I find it interesting my dad's
'87 535 has less power than my '94 530.)
In short complaining about why somebody wants this or that feature is
ignoring the fact that none of use are buying anything that's truly
practical.
Vern |
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Richard Sperry
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Thu Dec 02, 2004 6:07 pm Post subject:
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I drive my car because it's fun. A truck or SAV or ... isn't fun. If I had
my way, nobody would drive anything over 2500#'s and gas would cost $5 a
gal. Talk about some fun cars....
"Vernon Balbert" <vbalbert@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:yRord.52438$QJ3.44048@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
| Quote: | Richard Sperry wrote:
X3? X5? why bother buying a BMW version? There are a bunch of vehicles
that will do the job, (whatever that is) for a lot less money. I think
they are Big, heavy, pretty much useless, POS. They are built because
they have a lot of profit potential in them. I mean even Porsche builds
one of the damn things.
How many people buy SUVs to go offroad? I would be surprised if 5% of the
owners actually did go offroad.
However, they are large and when you're driving one (my girlfriend has a
Tahoe that when we drive that around I do the driving) gives quite a
different perspective and feeling. The very things that cause the most
complaints (the size, the engine size which guzzles gas) are those that
give drivers a feeling of power and makes driving a tad less boring than a
Chrysler minivan.
Rover has a great selling point where they take drivers on an artificial
offroad area to show how the car works. I'm sure that people think get a
charge out of that and then have a perceived usefulness of the vehicle
when they could easily have done with a station wagon or minivan.
It's all about perception and image, not about whether or not somebody is
going to turn off the road and go up in the mountains like the commercials
show.
And lets face it, some of those reasons are the same ones that impel a lot
of us to buy BMWs. But then while I don't go at speeds approaching 145
mph (I'd like to try that sometime, though) I do use the nimbleness and
the accelleration and so on of my 530i to enjoy driving a lot more than I
did with my old Toyota Corona (which was a very nice and faithful car.)
Driving cars like we drive isn't about practicality. How many of use
really need a car that can do 0 to 60 in a record time? (I notice the
2005 M5 can accelerate faster than some motorcycles.) If you want to be
practical you'd buy a much less expensive car with higher gas mileage and
a smaller engine. How many people really need a navigation system? Or an
engine with 200+ horsepower? (I find it interesting my dad's '87 535 has
less power than my '94 530.)
In short complaining about why somebody wants this or that feature is
ignoring the fact that none of use are buying anything that's truly
practical.
Vern |
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Fred W
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Thu Dec 02, 2004 6:42 pm Post subject:
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Richard Sperry wrote:
| Quote: | I drive my car because it's fun. A truck or SAV or ... isn't fun. If I had
my way, nobody would drive anything over 2500#'s and gas would cost $5 a
gal. Talk about some fun cars....
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Well I guess the rest of us are in luck that they have not crowned you
"king of the world" then, aren't we?
A truck or an SAV *can* be fun, just a different kind of fun.
You know, as my Dad used to tell me, "That's why they have horse races."
-Fred W
(if everyone bet on the same horse *that* would not be much fun, would it?) |
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Ramone Cila
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Thu Dec 02, 2004 9:29 pm Post subject:
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"Richard Sperry" <richardsperry@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:s8adnbztYdozjjLcRVn-iA@comcast.com...
| Quote: | I drive my car because it's fun. A truck or SAV or ... isn't fun. If I had
my way, nobody would drive anything over 2500#'s
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Not me. I don't want to tell anyone else what they can or cannot do, because
in other areas of life apart from cars and driving, I don't want anyone to
tell me what I can and cannot do.
Careful what you wish for, because there will always be somebody somewhere
who will disapprove of something about your life, and you don't want to give
them more power over your choices than they already are afforded.
| Quote: | and gas would cost $5 a gal.
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That would only worsen the situation. With higher gas prices the supply will
last longer and our weak kneed government wouldn't be forced to invoke
drastic measures to develop alternative fuels or cause car makers to develop
better alternative vehicles. As long as they can convince themselves that
there is supply enough beyond their terms, we will not have a complete and
combined effort by the government and all the makers (imagine if America put
the effort into alternative fuels that it did putting a man on the moon).
It used to be that OPEC kept the price low in order to dissuade governments
from finding the rationale for alternative fuels, because citizens had low
costs. Now the exact opposite will work. Keep the price high, to protect the
supply, and the government can bank on longer term for fossil fuels without
concern for a popular backlash because we have become accustomed to rising
fuel costs.
We've been played like fine pianos by both our own government as well as the
principles at OPEC. |
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Dan Krueger
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Fri Dec 03, 2004 5:40 am Post subject:
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You should consider moving - to another country and hugging one of their trees.
Find one where nothing in the store is bigger than a shoe box and boats and
other trailered products don't exist.
BTW - I have more "fun" in my X5 4.4i than my 330i.
Dan
Richard Sperry wrote:
| Quote: | I drive my car because it's fun. A truck or SAV or ... isn't fun. If I had
my way, nobody would drive anything over 2500#'s and gas would cost $5 a
gal. Talk about some fun cars....
"Vernon Balbert" <vbalbert@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:yRord.52438$QJ3.44048@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
Richard Sperry wrote:
X3? X5? why bother buying a BMW version? There are a bunch of vehicles
that will do the job, (whatever that is) for a lot less money. I think
they are Big, heavy, pretty much useless, POS. They are built because
they have a lot of profit potential in them. I mean even Porsche builds
one of the damn things.
How many people buy SUVs to go offroad? I would be surprised if 5% of the
owners actually did go offroad.
However, they are large and when you're driving one (my girlfriend has a
Tahoe that when we drive that around I do the driving) gives quite a
different perspective and feeling. The very things that cause the most
complaints (the size, the engine size which guzzles gas) are those that
give drivers a feeling of power and makes driving a tad less boring than a
Chrysler minivan.
Rover has a great selling point where they take drivers on an artificial
offroad area to show how the car works. I'm sure that people think get a
charge out of that and then have a perceived usefulness of the vehicle
when they could easily have done with a station wagon or minivan.
It's all about perception and image, not about whether or not somebody is
going to turn off the road and go up in the mountains like the commercials
show.
And lets face it, some of those reasons are the same ones that impel a lot
of us to buy BMWs. But then while I don't go at speeds approaching 145
mph (I'd like to try that sometime, though) I do use the nimbleness and
the accelleration and so on of my 530i to enjoy driving a lot more than I
did with my old Toyota Corona (which was a very nice and faithful car.)
Driving cars like we drive isn't about practicality. How many of use
really need a car that can do 0 to 60 in a record time? (I notice the
2005 M5 can accelerate faster than some motorcycles.) If you want to be
practical you'd buy a much less expensive car with higher gas mileage and
a smaller engine. How many people really need a navigation system? Or an
engine with 200+ horsepower? (I find it interesting my dad's '87 535 has
less power than my '94 530.)
In short complaining about why somebody wants this or that feature is
ignoring the fact that none of use are buying anything that's truly
practical.
Vern
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