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Rusty Shackleford
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Thu Nov 18, 2004 5:40 am Post subject:
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On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 17:40:19 -0700, "Irv" <steve@mypantsnite.com>
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"Lou" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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And that is suggesting you lie down and be a sheep how? Now that you
mention it though Irv, you claim that my suggestion that you move on
is an attempt to silence you, and my suggesting that you lie down and
be a sheep. I disagree but now that you mention it, you said on
11/13, to "marinelife" <marinelife@water.com
Most of us have "moved on".....you need to get over yourself and your
opinions.
Why did you attempt to silence marine life? Why did you suggest that
he lie down and be a sheep. Remember that I'm only using your
interpretation of the statement.
Are you stupid or what...I didn't tell him to move on...I told him to get
over himself. But you don't understand that statement any more than you
understand anything else.
You told him he needed to get over his opinions. What did you mean by |
that?
| Quote: | I on the other had refuse........as our society allows.
Sure, you can stay stuck in the past as long as you like. Be my
guest. But if that is your choice, why did you say on 11/13 that you
had moved on? You flip flop just like Kerry.
It's not living in the past to work for change in a manner of choice........
Very true. But is living in the past to refuse to accept the results |
of the election. Or have you gone back to saying you have moved on.
| Quote: | A flip flop is a rubber shower shoe....stick the flip flop up your ass.
Nothing better to offer than insults eh? |
| Quote: | I can't give you reason and understanding
Roger fucking that! You have proven yourself incapable of reason or
understanding.
Only because you are too dim to comprehend....
Comprehend what? That one day you say you've moved on past the |
election then a couple days later that you refuse to accept the
results? Again, since you have nothing better to offer, you hurl
insults.
| Quote: | You told me to get over the election and move on...... I won't, don't have
to......
So you were lying two days ago? But that was a nice fit you threw
there. "I won't, don't have to"! Did you kick your feet as you wrote
that?
Lieing??? Fuck Off....
Guess I'm right there, you must have been lying in your earlier posts. |
Otherwise you would have something besides an insult to offer.
| Quote: | That your candidate was selected by a slim 2% margin,
There goes your lies again. The margin was over three percent. I've
posted evidence but you seem unwilling to read the proof.
Lieing, Fuck Off.......I can count 51% to 49% = 2%.
There you go with your insults...again. Repeating the same lie |
doesn't make it true. You are using bogus numbers, you know it, I
know it, who do you think you are fooling?
I'll post my source again:
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/
What is the source of your bogus statistics?
| Quote: | And that
people who tell us to get over it and move on are ignorant........
Then why are you telling people to move on?
I didn't tell anyone to move on....those were your words
Right. You told people they needed to get over their opinions and |
that you had moved on. What did you mean when you said "you need to
get over yourself and your opinions" in not to move on?
| Quote: | we won't,
and we don't have to. Our society allows that.......
Very true. You can dwell in the past as long as you like.
Not doing that........no matter what you say.
So now you're back to accepting the results of the election? |
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Irv
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Thu Nov 18, 2004 5:40 am Post subject:
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"Joseph Oberlander" <josephoberlander@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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They're finding virtually NO foreign fighters in Falluja.......all
the
insurgents are locals. Looks like we've been misled again.
Huh? Where do you get your news from?
NBC, FOX, ABC, CBS, AP, UPI, Rueters, BBC..........
Well, what do you expect? We did the same thing when the British
started shooting us and destroying our homes.
You missed the point...........
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Thanks for the breakdown of news acuracy.....glad you didn't just start
acting like an ass like Lou did........
My point was that we've been told by the administration that Iraq is full of
foriegn fighters, mainly to bolster their claims that Iraq has links to Al
Queda....
But we're now starting to see that once in the very nasty street fight in
Faluja.....our military is finding few if any outsiders in the City. The
only explanation (to support the administration's claims) would be that they
all left town with the @250K others who fled the city before the fighting
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Irv
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Thu Nov 18, 2004 5:40 am Post subject:
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"Lou" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 19:59:03 -0700, "Irv" <steve@mypantsnite.com
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You'll note how the "news" still calls them "terrorists"
instead of rebels, which is a more correct term.
The news I watch calls them insurgents.....not terrorists.
What's your point? The news you watch can't get the election results
right either. Either that, or you are lying. Based on your past
history, I'd say you're lying.
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Fuck Off.....
You're nothing but a troublemaker........picking nits only to cause trouble.
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Lou
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Thu Nov 18, 2004 5:40 am Post subject:
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On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 17:44:13 GMT, Joseph Oberlander
<josephoberlander@earthlink.net> wrote:
| Quote: | Btw, a study of 9/11 the aftermath and common erors recently
showed that the highest error rate was 80% with Fox News viewers.
The lowest was with NPR listeners, at ~20%.
Care to steer us to that study?
If you watch biased crap all day long, you get biased crap for
beliefs.
BTW, CNN was somewhere in the 50% range. Fox News was at least
15-20% higher than the others. BCC wasn't great either. |
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Lou
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Thu Nov 18, 2004 5:40 am Post subject:
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On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 17:41:30 -0700, "Irv" <steve@mypantsnite.com>
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"Lou" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 19:59:03 -0700, "Irv" <steve@mypantsnite.com
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You'll note how the "news" still calls them "terrorists"
instead of rebels, which is a more correct term.
The news I watch calls them insurgents.....not terrorists.
What's your point? The news you watch can't get the election results
right either. Either that, or you are lying. Based on your past
history, I'd say you're lying.
Fuck Off.....
Based on your response, I'd have to assume you don't have a clue what |
your point is, otherwise you would have been able to answer my
question. People do generally get mad and start name calling when
they are called on their crap and they know it's right. |
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Irv
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Thu Nov 18, 2004 5:40 am Post subject:
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"Lou" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | And that is suggesting you lie down and be a sheep how? Now that you
mention it though Irv, you claim that my suggestion that you move on
is an attempt to silence you, and my suggesting that you lie down and
be a sheep. I disagree but now that you mention it, you said on
11/13, to "marinelife" <marinelife@water.com
Most of us have "moved on".....you need to get over yourself and your
opinions.
Why did you attempt to silence marine life? Why did you suggest that
he lie down and be a sheep. Remember that I'm only using your
interpretation of the statement.
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Are you stupid or what...I didn't tell him to move on...I told him to get
over himself. But you don't understand that statement any more than you
understand anything else.
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I on the other had refuse........as our society allows.
Sure, you can stay stuck in the past as long as you like. Be my
guest. But if that is your choice, why did you say on 11/13 that you
had moved on? You flip flop just like Kerry.
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It's not living in the past to work for change in a manner of choice........
A flip flop is a rubber shower shoe....stick the flip flop up your ass.
| Quote: | I can't give you reason and understanding
Roger fucking that! You have proven yourself incapable of reason or
understanding.
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Only because you are too dim to comprehend....
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You told me to get over the election and move on...... I won't, don't have
to......
So you were lying two days ago? But that was a nice fit you threw
there. "I won't, don't have to"! Did you kick your feet as you wrote
that?
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Lieing??? Fuck Off....
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That your candidate was selected by a slim 2% margin,
There goes your lies again. The margin was over three percent. I've
posted evidence but you seem unwilling to read the proof.
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Lieing, Fuck Off.......I can count 51% to 49% = 2%.
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And that
people who tell us to get over it and move on are ignorant........
Then why are you telling people to move on?
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I didn't tell anyone to move on....those were your words
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we won't,
and we don't have to. Our society allows that.......
Very true. You can dwell in the past as long as you like.
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Not doing that........no matter what you say.
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but the neocons are
working to take away those rights and would be just as happy to start
today.
I'm confused here. You tried taking those same rights away from
someone else two days ago, at least by your standards. Are you saying
you should have rights that others don't?
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No I didn't...I told a guy to get over himself, didn't tell him to move on.
You don't understand the concept because you are dim.
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Instead of smugly telling the opposition to "get over it and move
on"......the better approach would be for you to ask why your opinions and
actions would be so distasteful to so many people and then ask what could
be
done to find some middle ground. But that's not the neocon agenda........
Then why didn't you do that two days ago? Instead, you said "Most of
us have "moved on".....you need to get over yourself and your
opinions."
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I didn't, you don't understand my statement, I can't help that.
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But....you don't get it, never will.....and that's the problem.
Yeah, I'm really not understanding what you're trying to say. You
can't even keep your story straight. One day you say you have moved
on, two days later you say ""I won't, don't have to" move on. And
when I ask you to clarify you return with insults. Kinda makes me
think you have nothing valid to say.
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Then stop replying to me, better yet place me in your kill file....than you
won't see me anymore. Just because you're too dim to understand what I've
said doesn't make my ideas/opinion invalid. |
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Joseph Oberlander
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Fri Nov 19, 2004 5:40 am Post subject:
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Lou wrote:
| Quote: | On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 17:44:13 GMT, Joseph Oberlander
josephoberlander@earthlink.net> wrote:
Btw, a study of 9/11 the aftermath and common erors recently
showed that the highest error rate was 80% with Fox News viewers.
The lowest was with NPR listeners, at ~20%.
Care to steer us to that study?
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I ran across it on the local college station - I'll
try to find the exact study. IIRC, a major polling
company asked questions of viewers and also what station
they watched - and the results were that MSNBC and FOX
were very pro-government biased and CNN a little less so,
with most of the rest falling in the 20-50% error rate
for their viewers.
MSNBC and FOX both definately are taking a ask no
questions of our leaders approach, so if you watch
them all day long, you get biased beliefs. |
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Lou
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Fri Nov 19, 2004 11:12 am Post subject:
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On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 05:30:53 GMT, Joseph Oberlander
<josephoberlander@earthlink.net> wrote:
| Quote: | Btw, a study of 9/11 the aftermath and common erors recently
showed that the highest error rate was 80% with Fox News viewers.
The lowest was with NPR listeners, at ~20%.
Care to steer us to that study?
I ran across it on the local college station - I'll
try to find the exact study.
Good. I'll be waiting. I'm really curious to hear what they called |
an error.
| Quote: | IIRC, a major polling
company asked questions of viewers and also what station
they watched - and the results were that MSNBC and FOX
were very pro-government biased and CNN a little less so,
with most of the rest falling in the 20-50% error rate
for their viewers.
So let me get this right. You heard about a study on a college |
station (NPR) who reported that the error rate (reporting something
other than what NPR reported) was lowest for NPR listeners.
Are you seeing any bias there?
| Quote: | MSNBC and FOX both definately are taking a ask no
questions of our leaders approach, so if you watch
them all day long, you get biased beliefs.
Can you provide an example of how? |
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Joseph Oberlander
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Fri Nov 19, 2004 5:40 pm Post subject:
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Lou wrote:
| Quote: | So let me get this right. You heard about a study on a college
station (NPR) who reported that the error rate (reporting something
other than what NPR reported) was lowest for NPR listeners.
Are you seeing any bias there?
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Nope - not NPR. Not all college stations are NPR flunkies. |
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Lou
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Sat Nov 20, 2004 5:40 am Post subject:
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On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 17:14:03 GMT, Joseph Oberlander
<josephoberlander@earthlink.net> wrote:
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Lou wrote:
So let me get this right. You heard about a study on a college
station (NPR) who reported that the error rate (reporting something
other than what NPR reported) was lowest for NPR listeners.
Are you seeing any bias there?
Nope - not NPR. Not all college stations are NPR flunkies.
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LOL, all you have is some vague reference to a study you're not even
sure about yet you know it was not on an NPR station. Still waiting
for the exact study you were going to get us. |
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Irv
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Sat Nov 20, 2004 5:40 pm Post subject:
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"Lou" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 17:14:03 GMT, Joseph Oberlander
josephoberlander@earthlink.net> wrote:
Lou wrote:
So let me get this right. You heard about a study on a college
station (NPR) who reported that the error rate (reporting something
other than what NPR reported) was lowest for NPR listeners.
Are you seeing any bias there?
Nope - not NPR. Not all college stations are NPR flunkies.
LOL, all you have is some vague reference to a study you're not even
sure about yet you know it was not on an NPR station. Still waiting
for the exact study you were going to get us.
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How about if you show some intelligence and stop crossposting this shit to
alt.motorcycles.harley, none of us is interested in your crap or you........
For Christ sake your posting this shit on a motorcycle newsgroup, a toyota
car newsgroup, a music newsgroup, and a dvd newsgroup.
Are you really that stump stupid.......or are you being a dick on purpose?? |
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Lou
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Sat Nov 20, 2004 5:40 pm Post subject:
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On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 07:22:43 -0700, "Irv" <steve@mypantsnite.com>
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| Quote: | How about if you show some intelligence and stop crossposting this shit to
alt.motorcycles.harley,
Why are you trying to silence me Steve? |
| Quote: | none of us is interested in your crap or you........
Then why do you read and reply to my posts? |
| Quote: | For Christ sake your posting this shit on a motorcycle newsgroup, a toyota
car newsgroup, a music newsgroup, and a dvd newsgroup.
Steve, I'm posting my messages to the same list of newsgroups you are. |
Additionally why are you trying to silence me? Is it because I call
you on your lies?
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Are you really that stump stupid.......or are you being a dick on purpose??
No, I just get a kick out of watching the neolibs make a ass out of |
themselves. I like to watch them bitch about others doing the same
things they do. I like watching them spread bullshit after being
shown the actual facts.
I like calling them in their lies and asking them to provide evidence
to back their claims. Speaking of that Steve, you still haven't
posted the source to back your claim that Bush only won by 2% of the
vote. We know it's just another one of your lies. |
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Lou
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Sat Nov 20, 2004 11:12 pm Post subject:
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On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 17:29:50 -0700, "Irv" <steve@mypantsnite.com>
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| Quote: | I wasn't making any claims......I was debunking the neocon chestbeating
about a mandate of the people. Which a victory by 2% of the voters
isn't.....
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There goes your lies again Steve. You know that since you've
repeatedly ignored corrections to your 2% claim along with sources.
You've also repeatedly ignored requests to back your claim, because
you know it's wrong and you know you can't.
However, lets do something I know you don't like to do given your
refusal to accept the fact that Bush was elected president.
mandate: A command or an authorization given by a political electorate
to its representative.
electorate: A body of qualified voters.
Clearly the body of authorized bush to be the next president, given
that they gave him votes than any candidate in history. That is, by
definition a mandate. I understand that you want to live in denial,
refusing to move on from the election, that is your choice. I however
choose to correct your misinformation as you spread it. |
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Irv
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Sun Nov 21, 2004 12:26 pm Post subject:
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"Lou" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 07:22:43 -0700, "Irv" <steve@mypantsnite.com
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How about if you show some intelligence and stop crossposting this shit to
alt.motorcycles.harley,
Why are you trying to silence me Steve?
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Silence.....nope, move to the proper venue, out of the motorcycle
group...yes.
But you wouldn't see that becasue your a fucking moron.
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none of us is interested in your crap or you........
Then why do you read and reply to my posts?
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Because I can, bother you?? The get fucked.
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For Christ sake your posting this shit on a motorcycle newsgroup, a toyota
car newsgroup, a music newsgroup, and a dvd newsgroup.
Steve, I'm posting my messages to the same list of newsgroups you are.
Additionally why are you trying to silence me? Is it because I call
you on your lies?
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Lies?? Fuck off........
I only post to the same groups because I have absolutely no fucking idea
which one you are originating from. But now that you know which one's you're
posting to incorrectly, to continue would only be stupid. But oh yeah, I
forgot......you are stupid.
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Are you really that stump stupid.......or are you being a dick on
purpose??
No, I just get a kick out of watching the neolibs make a ass out of
themselves. I like to watch them bitch about others doing the same
things they do. I like watching them spread bullshit after being
shown the actual facts.
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You're a fucking troublemaker who does this shit for only one reason, to
stir up shit and cause trouble. Go back to the proper newsgroup you stupid
fuck.
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I like calling them in their lies and asking them to provide evidence
to back their claims. Speaking of that Steve, you still haven't
posted the source to back your claim that Bush only won by 2% of the
vote. We know it's just another one of your lies.
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Lies?? Fuck off. |
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Irv
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"Lou" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 17:29:50 -0700, "Irv" <steve@mypantsnite.com
wrote:
I wasn't making any claims......I was debunking the neocon chestbeating
about a mandate of the people. Which a victory by 2% of the voters
isn't.....
There goes your lies again Steve. You know that since you've
repeatedly ignored corrections to your 2% claim along with sources.
You've also repeatedly ignored requests to back your claim, because
you know it's wrong and you know you can't.
However, lets do something I know you don't like to do given your
refusal to accept the fact that Bush was elected president.
mandate: A command or an authorization given by a political electorate
to its representative.
electorate: A body of qualified voters.
Clearly the body of authorized bush to be the next president, given
that they gave him votes than any candidate in history. That is, by
definition a mandate. I understand that you want to live in denial,
refusing to move on from the election, that is your choice. I however
choose to correct your misinformation as you spread it.
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Only reason I know that you would go back a week and reply AGAIN to old
messages is so that you can be a shit stirrer.
How about if you spout all your bullshit in the proper forum, which ISN"T
alt.motorcycles.harley
To continue doing so would only be ignorant on your part, and would show the
lengths you would go to keep it up for the sole purpose of being a PRICK. |
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