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Lou
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Tue Nov 16, 2004 5:40 am Post subject:
Re: Evidence Mounts That The Vote Was Hacked |
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On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 17:28:54 GMT, MDT Tech®
<GOP_Majority@whitehouse.gov> wrote:
| Quote: | Irv wrote:.
They're finding virtually NO foreign fighters in Falluja.......all the
insurgents are locals. Looks like we've been misled again.
Huh? Where do you get your news from?
I notice our little friend Lou's silence is deafening on the answer to |
this question.
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Irv
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Tue Nov 16, 2004 5:40 am Post subject:
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"Lou" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 17:20:50 -0700, "Irv" <steve@mypantsnite.com
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"Lou" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:tdifp05cdjpl455fu56el8apulhdjb50g6@4ax.com...
Seems to me you just finished saying you "I don't have to accept the
"will of the people"". Face it, any way you slice it, Bush won the
election. Electoral vote, popular vote, even Kerry (the guy who more
people voted against in history) agrees Bush won.
You're stupid........
Nothing to offer except insults eh?
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Oh...you recognized an insult, you haven't recignized much else....
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or accept it.
Really? So what do you do instead of accepting the fact that Bush won
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Work towards the next campaign, lobby against republican legislation,
publicly protest, commit civil disobedience when I can. Anything besides
being a sheep and laying down as you suggest.
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Our system allows that, but you neocons
can't handle that......
More name calling eh? Nothing better to add?
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Only for people who can reason, and understand our system of government and
society.
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The expression of your opinion was to tell me to accept something and to
move on......don't have to just because you say so.
You have a problem with my expressing my opinion?
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Only when that expression tends to repress my rights to free
expression...........you wish to deny me what you desire...
But you, and many like you haven't gotten that yet........which is why this
country is in the shape it's in.
Good lord, what happened to the president's cabinet today?? |
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Irv
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Tue Nov 16, 2004 5:40 am Post subject:
Re: Evidence Mounts That The Vote Was NOT Hacked |
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<MajorDomo@mailcity.com> wrote in message
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Irv wrote:
All they have to do is last one more day than we do.........and we're
there
because of a lie.
What lie?
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WMD......
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Lou
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Tue Nov 16, 2004 5:40 am Post subject:
Re: Evidence Mounts That The Vote Was Hacked |
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On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 18:55:18 -0700, "Irv" <steve@mypantsnite.com>
wrote:
| Quote: | You're stupid........
Nothing to offer except insults eh?
Oh...you recognized an insult, you haven't recignized much else....
Nothing of value to offer so you resort to insults 'eh? |
| Quote: | or accept it.
Really? So what do you do instead of accepting the fact that Bush won
Work towards the next campaign, lobby against republican legislation,
publicly protest, commit civil disobedience when I can. Anything besides
being a sheep and laying down as you suggest.
Uh, when did I suggest you lie down and be a sheep? Once again, you |
have to make things up since you have nothing of value to offer.
So, what does what you do in the future do with who was elected
president? What makes you think you can't work toward the ideals you
want if you accept that Bush won the election by having more votes
cast in his favor than any candidate in history?
| Quote: | Our system allows that, but you neocons
can't handle that......
More name calling eh? Nothing better to add?
Only for people who can reason, and understand our system of government and
society.
Good. Then why don't you show us what you have to offer aside from |
insults and accusations.
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The expression of your opinion was to tell me to accept something and to
move on......don't have to just because you say so.
You have a problem with my expressing my opinion?
Only when that expression tends to repress my rights to free
expression...........
Perhaps you can explain how my expressing my opinion repressed your |
right to free speech.
| Quote: | you wish to deny me what you desire...
Really? How so? Or is that another of your groundless accusations? |
| Quote: | But you, and many like you haven't gotten that yet
Gotten what yet? Can you explain what you are trying to say? |
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Irv
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Tue Nov 16, 2004 12:29 pm Post subject:
Re: Evidence Mounts That The Vote Was Hacked |
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"Lou" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:5oqip0tt6fvmdv7dkulu692cddnrkmgb01@4ax.com...
| Quote: | On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 18:55:18 -0700, "Irv" <steve@mypantsnite.com
wrote:
You're stupid........
Nothing to offer except insults eh?
Oh...you recognized an insult, you haven't recignized much else....
Nothing of value to offer so you resort to insults 'eh?
or accept it.
Really? So what do you do instead of accepting the fact that Bush won
Work towards the next campaign, lobby against republican legislation,
publicly protest, commit civil disobedience when I can. Anything besides
being a sheep and laying down as you suggest.
Uh, when did I suggest you lie down and be a sheep? Once again, you
have to make things up since you have nothing of value to offer.
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Liar.....not just that....FUCKING LIAR. You said that Bush had won and that
I should get over it and move on........
I on the other had refuse........as our society allows.
| Quote: | So, what does what you do in the future do with who was elected
president? What makes you think you can't work toward the ideals you
want if you accept that Bush won the election by having more votes
cast in his favor than any candidate in history?
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You're an ignorant child......just repeating the same crap over and over.
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Our system allows that, but you neocons
can't handle that......
More name calling eh? Nothing better to add?
Only for people who can reason, and understand our system of government
and
society.
Good. Then why don't you show us what you have to offer aside from
insults and accusations.
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I can't give you reason and understanding.......you may never have it.
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The expression of your opinion was to tell me to accept something and to
move on......don't have to just because you say so.
You have a problem with my expressing my opinion?
Only when that expression tends to repress my rights to free
expression...........
Perhaps you can explain how my expressing my opinion repressed your
right to free speech.
you wish to deny me what you desire...
Really? How so? Or is that another of your groundless accusations?
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You told me to get over the election and move on...... I won't, don't have
to......
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But you, and many like you haven't gotten that yet
Gotten what yet? Can you explain what you are trying to say?
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That your candidate was selected by a slim 2% margin, and that there are a
HUGE number of people who do not like him and what he stands for. And that
people who tell us to get over it and move on are ignorant........we won't,
and we don't have to. Our society allows that.......but the neocons are
working to take away those rights and would be just as happy to start today.
Instead of smugly telling the opposition to "get over it and move
on"......the better approach would be for you to ask why your opinions and
actions would be so distasteful to so many people and then ask what could be
done to find some middle ground. But that's not the neocon agenda........
But....you don't get it, never will.....and that's the problem. |
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Irv
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Tue Nov 16, 2004 12:31 pm Post subject:
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"Lou" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 17:28:54 GMT, MDT Tech®
GOP_Majority@whitehouse.gov> wrote:
Irv wrote:.
They're finding virtually NO foreign fighters in Falluja.......all the
insurgents are locals. Looks like we've been misled again.
Huh? Where do you get your news from?
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NBC, FOX, ABC, CBS, AP, UPI, Rueters, BBC.......... |
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Rich Lockyer
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Tue Nov 16, 2004 1:52 pm Post subject:
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On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 17:24:22 -0700, "Irv" <steve@mypantsnite.com>
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| Quote: | Don't have to.......there are other elections in the future, local,
regional, and yes...national. I don't have to "get over it", I can fight to
change an administration I view with disgust. I love my country too much to
"get over it".
So far there have been 38 Americans killed in Falluja this week.......
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DOD projections were for about 100 by the time we reached our present
level of control of the area.
That does nothing to lessen the hurt to the families and friends of
the 38, but that is 62 men who will be coming home that were not
expected to be coming home.
--- Rich
http://richlockyer.tripod.com/ |
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rocky
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Tue Nov 16, 2004 2:42 pm Post subject:
Re: Bogus Evidence Mounts That The Vote Was Hacked |
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In article <hhfmd.29511$bP2.24443@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com>,
<polecat@stinker.org> wrote:
| Quote: | This Means You Jas. COULD YOU ALL HAVE THE COMMON COURTESY TO CUT
ALT.MOTORCYCLES.HARLEY OUT OF THIS LOOP? YOUR STINKING UP THE REAL WORLD
WITH YOUR FANTASY FUCKING
BULLSHIT. IT'S SO SIMPLE EVEN A LIBERAL CAN DO IT. JUST - HIGHLIGHT, RIGHT
CLICK, CUT. SEE HOW EASY THAT WAS. CHECK MY HEADER.
Thank you in advance.
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Harley is a girls bike.
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polecat
"Jas" <jasimpeachdubya@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:cmtqbt$b3m$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
MajorDomo@mailcity.com> wrote in message
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Get real. I there was even the remotest evidence that scanned
ballots were fudged, the DNC would have been all over this and
have asked for a state wide recount available under Florida
election law. Bus won in Florida for one reason, a large number
of black and Jewish voters that normally vote democrat voted for
the President, period
Reposted from "rocky" well, I remember watching Lou Dobbs several months
ago
and he was
talking about the electrionic voting machines without papertrails.
He said that the guy behind all the machines (Diebold) stated pubicly
that he would do anything he can to get Bush re-elected. Lou Dobbs
couldn't believe the guy said it and a few days later Diebold came out
and said he was sorry and wasn't going to go pubic..
Talk about shady ... makes you wonder if all the electronic machines
were hacked into just enough to give bush the edge and victory......
And you know Lou Dobbs is a conservitive republician but a good honest
fair one...
mike hunt
Jas wrote:
Evidence Mounts That The Vote Was Hacked
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Edwin Hurwitz
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Tue Nov 16, 2004 2:53 pm Post subject:
Re: Evidence Mounts That The Vote Was NOT Hacked |
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In article <Prfmd.347$Tq6.15@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
MDT Tech(R) <GOP_Majority@whitehouse.gov> wrote:
| Quote: | Irv wrote:
What lie?
WMD......
Irv, what lie? He didnt lie about WMD's, he made his choice based on the
exact same info/intelligence Kerry had when he voted for action in Iraq.
A lie would be him knowing there was none and told you there was. Not
the case, he did not lie!
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Not exactly. He and his friends gave the information to Kerry and the
rest of us, and he was given different information as well as the info
that was passed on. Just because Kerry and so many others believed it,
doesn't mean that Bush wasn't lying. the evidence points to the truth
being available to Bush and Bush didn't want to see it. If I close my
eyes and swear you have blues eyes without seeing them, it doesn't make
them any less brown, no matter what I believe.
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Tue Nov 16, 2004 3:39 pm Post subject:
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In article <edwin-E2FF3F.02530216112004@corp.supernews.com>,
Edwin Hurwitz <edwin@TAKEMEOUTindra.com> wrote:
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Not exactly. He and his friends gave the information to Kerry and the
rest of us, and he was given different information as well as the info
that was passed on. Just because Kerry and so many others believed it,
doesn't mean that Bush wasn't lying. the evidence points to the truth
being available to Bush and Bush didn't want to see it. If I close my
eyes and swear you have blues eyes without seeing them, it doesn't make
them any less brown, no matter what I believe.
Edwin
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Pure speculation on your part Edwin, unless you're a mind reader.
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Lou
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Tue Nov 16, 2004 5:40 pm Post subject:
Re: Evidence Mounts That The Vote Was Hacked - Falluja news |
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On 15 Nov 2004 19:08:25 -0800, Flintstone60@hotmail.com (Fred) wrote:
| Quote: | MDT Tech® <GOP_Majority@whitehouse.gov> wrote in message news:<qH5md.27214$KJ6.20347@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>...
Irv wrote:.
They're finding virtually NO foreign fighters in Falluja.......all the
insurgents are locals. Looks like we've been misled again.
Huh? Where do you get your news from?
I think we can forget the "news" for now in Falluja, since there are
no independent reporters allowed in (the last I looked -and one must
wonder WHY.).
This story is from one of the reporters you claim isn't there. |
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/11/15/marine.probe/index.html
There is a whole pool of reporters according to the story. The news
the morning has quite a bit of videotape from reporters you claim
aren't there.
| Quote: | As was the case in the siege of Stalingrad, I would
assume it is all false propaganda for now.
Yes, it appears that false propaganda is what you're spreading. You |
really should educate yourself. |
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Joseph Oberlander
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Wed Nov 17, 2004 12:06 am Post subject:
Re: Evidence Mounts That The Vote Was Hacked |
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Irv wrote:
| Quote: | "Lou" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:f4rip0laree0409t5nfrme8flp1lgonqv3@4ax.com...
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 17:28:54 GMT, MDT Tech®
GOP_Majority@whitehouse.gov> wrote:
Irv wrote:.
They're finding virtually NO foreign fighters in Falluja.......all the
insurgents are locals. Looks like we've been misled again.
Huh? Where do you get your news from?
NBC, FOX, ABC, CBS, AP, UPI, Rueters, BBC..........
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Well, what do you expect? We did the same thing when the British
started shooting us and destroying our homes.
You'll note how the "news" still calls them "terrorists"
instead of rebels, which is a more correct term. |
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Fred
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Wed Nov 17, 2004 5:08 am Post subject:
Re: Evidence Mounts That The Vote Was probabaly Hacked |
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Edwin Hurwitz <edwin@TAKEMEOUTindra.com> wrote in message news:<edwin-E2FF3F.02530216112004@corp.supernews.com>...
| Quote: | In article <Prfmd.347$Tq6.15@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
MDT Tech(R) <GOP_Majority@whitehouse.gov> wrote:
Irv wrote:
What lie?
WMD......
Irv, what lie? He didnt lie about WMD's, he made his choice based on the
exact same info/intelligence Kerry had when he voted for action in Iraq.
A lie would be him knowing there was none and told you there was. Not
the case, he did not lie!
Not exactly. He and his friends gave the information to Kerry and the
rest of us, and he was given different information as well as the info
that was passed on. Just because Kerry and so many others believed it,
doesn't mean that Bush wasn't lying. the evidence points to the truth
being available to Bush and Bush didn't want to see it. If I close my
eyes and swear you have blues eyes without seeing them, it doesn't make
them any less brown, no matter what I believe.
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First of all, nobody that I knew believed those amazingly amateurish
propaganda shots of WMD that Powel presented to the UN to justify this
bloody oil excursion. Nor did they believe the documented lies on Iraq
ties to 9/11. Or did most believe that in the final pretext of regime
change and democracy (stated only after the invasion was given to go
ahead when in the Azores with Blair) that these same folk - who armed
and supplied their "good friend' Saddam without remorse (as they did ,
and still do to other vile dictators) -cared about democracy.
Fredrick
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MDT Tech®
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Wed Nov 17, 2004 5:40 am Post subject:
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deil@mospam.com wrote:
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Pure speculation on your part Edwin, unless you're a mind reader.
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Well, I do have blue eyes, so he may be a mind reader. |
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MDT Tech®
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Wed Nov 17, 2004 5:40 am Post subject:
Re: Evidence Mounts That The Vote Was probabaly Hacked |
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Fred wrote:
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First of all, nobody that I knew believed those amazingly amateurish
propaganda shots of WMD that Powel presented to the UN to justify this
bloody oil excursion. Nor did they believe the documented lies on Iraq
ties to 9/11. Or did most believe that in the final pretext of regime
change and democracy (stated only after the invasion was given to go
ahead when in the Azores with Blair) that these same folk - who armed
and supplied their "good friend' Saddam without remorse (as they did ,
and still do to other vile dictators) -cared about democracy.
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Sais "Fred"?? |
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