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Fred W
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Mon Nov 29, 2004 8:04 pm Post subject:
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tech27 wrote:
| Quote: | "Dan Drake" <ddrake@comcast.notthis.net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 07:42:21 -0500, Fred W
Fred.Wills@SPAMmyrealbox.com> wrote:
Dan Drake wrote:
On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 11:03:41 -0500, "tech27"
Also, where is it written that one must make their best car their daily
driver?
That's a specious argument. Where is it written that one *mustn't* do
that?
Hey guys!! Where is it written that one can't decide for themselves what
weather conditions they want to or don't want to drive in?
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That was my point exactly...
To each his own?
-Fred W
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Fred W
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Mon Nov 29, 2004 8:11 pm Post subject:
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Dan Drake wrote:
| Quote: | On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 07:42:21 -0500, Fred W
Fred.Wills@SPAMmyrealbox.com> wrote:
I *would* take it out on the
highways and back roads for a solid thrashing on a regular basis, but
somehow I don't think competing for lane space in downtown Boston with a
beat up taxicab is what the Motorsport designers had in mind as a
"purpose" for the E39 M5.
There, you're flat wrong. It's designed and built to be perfectly
happy doing either.
Dents and dings can be knocked out of it, and after a $150 detailing
job, the starry-eyed next owner won't know the difference.
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But what if I just intend to keep the car? Certainly *I* would know the
difference ;-)
I think it all comes down to how you feel about your car(s). Many
people feel that they are merely appliances. I OTOH feel a certain
stewardship over my fleet and treat them accordingly.
YMMV,
-Fred W |
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Fred W
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Mon Nov 29, 2004 8:29 pm Post subject:
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Dan Drake wrote:
| Quote: | On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 07:42:21 -0500, Fred W
Fred.Wills@SPAMmyrealbox.com> wrote:
Not a very wise position IMO, Dan. Yes, an M5 is "driveable" in snow,
but that doesn't mean that you have to.
It's drivable in snow. That's my point exactly. My irritation stems
from those who are in awe of it and who would coddle it like it was a
rare and valuable car.
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Hmmm. Let's see... 20,500 made (worldwide) over a period of 7 years
with a list of about $70k. Yeah I think that qualifies as rare and
valuable.
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You sound
perhaps like someone who has not spent much time driving in real winter
conditions.
I think that Switzerland and Scandinavia have "real winter
conditions," don't you?
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Yep, sure does. But how much road salt do they use in those countries?
That is what really causes all the anxiety of driving a fine car in
the US winters.
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Also, where is it written that one must make their best car their daily
driver?
That's a specious argument. Where is it written that one *mustn't* do
that? Where is it written that life should be fair? &c., &c.
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I'm not sure what you mean by that. I did not say that one mustn't
drive it in the winter. Only that the needn't.
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I *would* take it out on the
highways and back roads for a solid thrashing on a regular basis, but
somehow I don't think competing for lane space in downtown Boston with a
beat up taxicab is what the Motorsport designers had in mind as a
"purpose" for the E39 M5.
There, you're flat wrong. It's designed and built to be perfectly
happy doing either.
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Have you done a lot of driving in the cities of the Northeastern US? I
don't think *any* car manufacturer has these conditions in mind when the
design their cars or they would be built more akin to an M1 Abrams tank.
;-)
-Fred W
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Dan Drake
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Tue Nov 30, 2004 5:41 am Post subject:
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On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 10:29:11 -0500, Fred W
<Fred.Wills@SPAMmyrealbox.com> wrote:
| Quote: | My irritation stems
from those who are in awe of it and who would coddle it like it was a
rare and valuable car.
Hmmm. Let's see... 20,500 made (worldwide) over a period of 7 years
with a list of about $70k. Yeah I think that qualifies as rare and
valuable.
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I disagree. E39 M5s can be had for about half their original sticker
price, even well maintained and low mileage ones. Their price
continues to fall, and I suspect that they will eventually join the
ranks of things like the 750s and 850s, when maintenance cost
outweighs "value," however you measure it. That does not preclude you
or me from taking advantage of the window of time where reliability
and value are balanced, and makes sense. Just don't get starry-eyed
about it. Other mainstream performance cars hold their values better,
the NSX is a good example.
| Quote: | You sound
perhaps like someone who has not spent much time driving in real winter
conditions.
I think that Switzerland and Scandinavia have "real winter
conditions," don't you?
Yep, sure does. But how much road salt do they use in those countries?
That is what really causes all the anxiety of driving a fine car in
the US winters.
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Pay attention. The point was about drivability, not corrosion. If
you're worried about your "fine" car corroding, then you're in for
some major disappointments in your motoring life.
| Quote: | Also, where is it written that one must make their best car their daily
driver?
That's a specious argument. Where is it written that one *mustn't* do
that? Where is it written that life should be fair? &c., &c.
I'm not sure what you mean by that. I did not say that one mustn't
drive it in the winter. Only that the needn't.
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Fair enough. I choose to drive my cars without too much regard for
their well-being. I draw the line at driving, for example, a Caterham
Seven in the snow and ice because I get too frickin' cold doing it,
not because I don't want to get snow and ice on it. YMMV, &c., as
always.
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Dan Drake |
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Dan Drake
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Tue Nov 30, 2004 5:41 am Post subject:
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On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 10:11:44 -0500, Fred W
<Fred.Wills@SPAMmyrealbox.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Dan Drake wrote:
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 07:42:21 -0500, Fred W
Dents and dings can be knocked out of it, and after a $150 detailing
job, the starry-eyed next owner won't know the difference.
But what if I just intend to keep the car? Certainly *I* would know the
difference ;-)
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What part of "starry-eyed next owner" didn't you understand?
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Dan Drake |
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dizzy
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Wed Dec 01, 2004 5:40 am Post subject:
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On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 21:53:37 -0500, Dan Drake
<ddrake@comcast.notthis.net> wrote:
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you're worried about your "fine" car corroding, then you're in for
some major disappointments in your motoring life.
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Not. A car that's only driven part-time, and not at all in the
harshest, saltiest, conditions, can stay in good shape for decades. |
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dizzy
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Wed Dec 01, 2004 5:40 am Post subject:
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On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 19:59:46 -0500, Dan Drake
<ddrake@comcast.notthis.net> wrote:
| Quote: | On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 23:53:37 GMT, dizzy <dizzy@nospam.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 11:11:33 -0500, "tech27"
tech27@mail.anonymizer.com> wrote:
Where exactly is this "moisture build-up" supposed to occur? The only
place that I can see (assuming that you are only driving in fair weather)
would be in the exhaust system. Personally, I would (and do) run that
risk.
Exhaust and internals. Anything that air can get to can potentially get
moisture and corrosives as the water reacts to other compounds.
Then you'd better not drive your car. Ever. After all, "moisture"
will be the inevitable result of that activity.
I'm in the camp of taking if for a good drive a couple times in the
Winter.
Drive the frickin' thing year round in all weathers, fer chrissakes.
I do that with mine - they're just cars, when all is said and done.
Accept the inevitable. You are probably going to live longer than
your car(s) will. You only go around once, and so do cars, for the
most part.
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If you have more than one car available, and one of your cars is not
suitableand /or fun for Winter driving, then why drive it in the
Winter?
Your proposal is only correct if you really rely on the vehicle in
question as your main transportation. |
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