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Big Al
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Mon Nov 22, 2004 5:40 pm Post subject:
2002 Cavalier wheel lug torque |
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Just looked in the factory service manual. Says the wheel lugs should be
torqued to 100 ft. pounds. Sounds high to me. Any better info?
Al
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Rick
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Mon Nov 22, 2004 10:33 pm Post subject:
Re: 2002 Cavalier wheel lug torque |
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"Big Al" <nospamsal1@qwest.net> wrote in message
news:uunod.8$Y05.2429@news.uswest.net...
| Quote: | Just looked in the factory service manual. Says the wheel lugs should be
torqued to 100 ft. pounds. Sounds high to me. Any better info?
Al
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You prefer to beleive me or someone else on the internet instead of the
service manual ??????
What do you want to hear, 60/70/80/90 ft pounds ??? Be my guess and keep us
posted ! |
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shiden_kai
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Tue Nov 23, 2004 5:40 am Post subject:
Re: 2002 Cavalier wheel lug torque |
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Big Al wrote:
| Quote: | Just looked in the factory service manual. Says the wheel lugs should
be torqued to 100 ft. pounds. Sounds high to me. Any better info?
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Yes, get a deflection style torque wrench....watch the torque reading
closely and see what it reads when you tighten one wheel nut tight
enough to snap the wheel stud. Then, install a new wheel stud and
nut and make sure you don't go that high the next time.
Ian
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Ray
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Tue Nov 23, 2004 11:25 am Post subject:
Re: 2002 Cavalier wheel lug torque |
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Big Al wrote:
| Quote: | Just looked in the factory service manual. Says the wheel lugs should be
torqued to 100 ft. pounds. Sounds high to me. Any better info?
Al
100 it is. |
I recall 90 as being the "standard" in high school, but my Jimmy,
Beretta and Trans Am ALL call for 100 ft lbs. (owner's manual AND/OR
shop manual.)
here's a question - are there any new GM's (or last 10 years) that DON'T
call for 100 foot pounds on the lug nuts?
Ray |
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Dennis Smith
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Tue Nov 23, 2004 7:14 pm Post subject:
Re: 2002 Cavalier wheel lug torque |
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In article <3JAod.311588$nl.79093@pd7tw3no>, ray@nospam.com says...
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here's a question - are there any new GM's (or last 10 years) that DON'T
call for 100 foot pounds on the lug nuts?
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Yes. Cars with steel rims usually call for around 70 ft lbs.
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-1973 Trans Am - 455 - TH400 auto - Buccaneer red-
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Scott Buchanan
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Thu Nov 25, 2004 1:20 am Post subject:
Re: 2002 Cavalier wheel lug torque |
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Most of the cars that I work on have had aluminum wheels ant have torque up
fine at 100. Recently, I worked on a Grand AM with steel wheels that also
required 100. Using the three step method, the nuts tightened good at 80,
but when I went to 100, the nuts kept turning and distorted the holes in the
wheel.
"Big Al" <nospamsal1@qwest.net> wrote in message
news:uunod.8$Y05.2429@news.uswest.net...
| Quote: | Just looked in the factory service manual. Says the wheel lugs should be
torqued to 100 ft. pounds. Sounds high to me. Any better info?
Al
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Robertwgross
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Thu Nov 25, 2004 1:29 am Post subject:
Re: 2002 Cavalier wheel lug torque |
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Scott wrote:
| Quote: | Most of the cars that I work on have had aluminum wheels ant have torque up
fine at 100. Recently, I worked on a Grand AM with steel wheels that also
required 100. Using the three step method, the nuts tightened good at 80,
but when I went to 100, the nuts kept turning and distorted the holes in the
wheel.
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Do you use a torque wrench, or do you use a torque stick?
---Bob Gross--- |
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Fastload
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Wed Dec 01, 2004 1:13 am Post subject:
Re: 2002 Cavalier wheel lug torque |
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"Robertwgross" <robertwgross@cs.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
20041124152919.21909.00001259@mb-m06.news.cs.com...
| Quote: | Scott wrote:
Most of the cars that I work on have had aluminum wheels ant have torque
up
fine at 100. Recently, I worked on a Grand AM with steel wheels that also
required 100. Using the three step method, the nuts tightened good at 80,
but when I went to 100, the nuts kept turning and distorted the holes in
the
wheel.
Do you use a torque wrench, or do you use a torque stick?
---Bob Gross---
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100 on a wrench is not the same as 100 on a stick? Now I'm confused...
A spec is a spec, whatever the type or shape of tool, a 100 is still a 100
in both cases, am I wrong? |
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Ray
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Wed Dec 01, 2004 4:41 am Post subject:
Re: 2002 Cavalier wheel lug torque |
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Fastload wrote:
| Quote: | "Robertwgross" <robertwgross@cs.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
20041124152919.21909.00001259@mb-m06.news.cs.com...
Scott wrote:
Most of the cars that I work on have had aluminum wheels ant have torque
up
fine at 100. Recently, I worked on a Grand AM with steel wheels that also
required 100. Using the three step method, the nuts tightened good at 80,
but when I went to 100, the nuts kept turning and distorted the holes in
the
wheel.
Do you use a torque wrench, or do you use a torque stick?
---Bob Gross---
100 on a wrench is not the same as 100 on a stick? Now I'm confused...
A spec is a spec, whatever the type or shape of tool, a 100 is still a 100
in both cases, am I wrong?
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I think he was implying the torque stick was not overly accurate
compared to a torque wrench.
Kinda like the goobers at Crappy Tire (Canadian Tire) who put new tires
on my Jimmy last winter. Took the tires off on the weekend to rotate
and check the brakes/lube the front end - they musta used the biggest
f'n impact they had to put them back on. Maybe the guy was dyslexic and
saw 1000 ft pounds I dunno...
And people wonder why I fix all my own cars - I can save a lot of money
and do it just as badly. ;)
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Robertwgross
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Wed Dec 01, 2004 5:41 am Post subject:
Re: 2002 Cavalier wheel lug torque |
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Fastload wrote:
| Quote: | Do you use a torque wrench, or do you use a torque stick?
---Bob Gross---
100 on a wrench is not the same as 100 on a stick? Now I'm confused...
A spec is a spec, whatever the type or shape of tool, a 100 is still a 100
in both cases, am I wrong?
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Sure, 100 is 100, but a torque wrench is a lot more accurate than a torque
stick, in my opinion. Torque sticks seem to be rather sloppy, or to put it
differently, the mechanic who last rotated my car's tires did a sloppy job with
a torque stick.
---Bob Gross--- |
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Wendy & John
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Wed Dec 01, 2004 3:04 pm Post subject:
Re: 2002 Cavalier wheel lug torque |
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"Robertwgross" wrote:
Sure, 100 is 100, but a torque wrench is a lot more accurate than a torque
stick, in my opinion. Torque sticks seem to be rather sloppy, or to put it
differently, the mechanic who last rotated my car's tires did a sloppy job
with
a torque stick.
---Bob Gross---
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You can be fooled by a dishonest mechanic with either torque wrench.
My motorhome lug nuts needed 105 Ft-Lb. After running them up by
hand or with a speed wrench, a responsible mechanic would use a
torque wrench for final tightening to the spec.
The tire department mechanics at Sears in Fairfield California found a
way to do the final tightening in no time at all. They just used an air
impact wrench to slam all the lug nuts to 150 Foot-Lbs, then made a
big show of applying a torque wrench to each nut until it read 105 Ft-Lb.
To the customer, this looked like the mechanic was applying the correct
torque adjustment, but the mechanic was just quickly going through the
motions, as every nut was already overtorqued.
I watched this, and didn't know what to say, so I said nothing. Later
when I got to los Angeles, 3 of 8 studs on one wheel and 4 of 8 studs
on the other wheel were broken off. It was an old motorhome, and
maybe the studs should have survived 150 Ft-Lb, but now I am more
diligent when any mechanical work is done on my vehicles.
Wendy & John.
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