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Satchel Paige
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Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 2:20 am    Post subject: How is fuel injection service performed? Reply with quote

A friend has a 1999 Ford Contour with 80,000 miles on it and was told
she should have the fuel injection serviced. I asked her how the car
ran and she said it runs fine, but since she is the second owner, she
doesn't know if the fuel injection has ever been serviced.

I remember paying about $80 to have the fuel injection on my Isuzu
Rodeo serviced and I watched a mecahanic basically hook up a bottle to
the fuel line and let the engine run for about 20 minutes. Afterwards,
he reved the engine a couple of times as some white smoke came out of
the exhaust and then became clear again. I did not notice any change
in the Isuzu's performance when I drove it off and wondered if the
fuel injector cleaners sold at Pep Boys would have done the same at a
fraction of the price.

Can anyone explain what a fuel injection service should be like and
what it should cost. Is the service different for different
manufacturers?

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dbird
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Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 2:24 am    Post subject: Re: How is fuel injection service performed? Reply with quote

Satchel Paige wrote:
Quote:

A friend has a 1999 Ford Contour with 80,000 miles on it and was told
she should have the fuel injection serviced. I asked her how the car
ran and she said it runs fine, but since she is the second owner, she
doesn't know if the fuel injection has ever been serviced.

I remember paying about $80 to have the fuel injection on my Isuzu
Rodeo serviced and I watched a mecahanic basically hook up a bottle to
the fuel line and let the engine run for about 20 minutes. Afterwards,
he reved the engine a couple of times as some white smoke came out of
the exhaust and then became clear again. I did not notice any change
in the Isuzu's performance when I drove it off and wondered if the
fuel injector cleaners sold at Pep Boys would have done the same at a
fraction of the price.

Can anyone explain what a fuel injection service should be like and
what it should cost. Is the service different for different
manufacturers?
go to www.contour.org the web site for contour owners and ask the same

question.. you will get alot better answer there and will also get info
on just about anything involving a contour/mystique......
hope this helps.
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Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 5:40 am    Post subject: Re: How is fuel injection service performed? Reply with quote

"Satchel Paige" <dor@writeme.com> wrote in message
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A friend has a 1999 Ford Contour with 80,000 miles on it and was told
she should have the fuel injection serviced. I asked her how the car
ran and she said it runs fine, but since she is the second owner, she
doesn't know if the fuel injection has ever been serviced.

I remember paying about $80 to have the fuel injection on my Isuzu
Rodeo serviced and I watched a mecahanic basically

hook up a bottle to the fuel line and let the engine run for about 20
minutes. Afterwards,
he reved the engine a couple of times as some white smoke came out of
the exhaust and then became clear again.

That's it....
If you didn't noticed any difference means you did it on time.

It is called preventive maintenance


Quote:
I did not notice any change
in the Isuzu's performance when I drove it off and wondered if the
fuel injector cleaners sold at Pep Boys would have done the same at a
fraction of the price.

If you use it on a regular basis , every , lets say , forth tank of gas.
Offcourse it will add up that way
Quote:

Can anyone explain what a fuel injection service should be like and
what it should cost. Is the service different for different
manufacturers?


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Backyard Mechanic
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Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 5:40 am    Post subject: Re: How is fuel injection service performed? Reply with quote

Satchel Paige opined in news:ab3acb51.0411201320.5254be3a@posting.google.com:

Quote:
A friend has a 1999 Ford Contour with 80,000 miles on it and was told
she should have the fuel injection serviced. I asked her how the car
ran and she said it runs fine, but since she is the second owner, she
doesn't know if the fuel injection has ever been serviced.

I remember paying about $80 to have the fuel injection on my Isuzu
Rodeo serviced and I watched a mecahanic basically hook up a bottle to
the fuel line and let the engine run for about 20 minutes. Afterwards,
he reved the engine a couple of times as some white smoke came out of
the exhaust and then became clear again. I did not notice any change
in the Isuzu's performance when I drove it off and wondered if the
fuel injector cleaners sold at Pep Boys would have done the same at a
fraction of the price.

Can anyone explain what a fuel injection service should be like and
what it should cost. Is the service different for different
manufacturers?


Is "fuel injection service" listed as scheduled maintenance?

Lessee.. she took the car to a shop for something else and the guy says " Gee
lady you need you muffler bearings lubed"

Where do you live and what is the major gas brand in the area?

I drive high mileage cars and never have used a fuel additive... for grins I
took some injectors in after 160K or so to have them cleaned and profiled and
there was nothing wrong with them.

However.. any time the subject has come up in the last ten years i've been
reading these boards, Techron has been well thought of.. so just do it
yourself.
http://www.chevron.com/prodserv/nafl/auto/content/fueladd.shtm

Please note I think these warnings of deposits are highly exxagerated in the
typical car using a good brand gas.. not necessariily the best known.

For example Speedway gas has never let me down
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351CJ
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Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 5:40 am    Post subject: Re: How is fuel injection service performed? Reply with quote

"Satchel Paige" <dor@writeme.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
A friend has a 1999 Ford Contour with 80,000 miles on it and was told
she should have the fuel injection serviced. I asked her how the car
ran and she said it runs fine, but since she is the second owner, she
doesn't know if the fuel injection has ever been serviced.

I remember paying about $80 to have the fuel injection on my Isuzu
Rodeo serviced and I watched a mecahanic basically hook up a bottle to
the fuel line and let the engine run for about 20 minutes. Afterwards,
he reved the engine a couple of times as some white smoke came out of
the exhaust and then became clear again. I did not notice any change
in the Isuzu's performance when I drove it off and wondered if the
fuel injector cleaners sold at Pep Boys would have done the same at a
fraction of the price.

Can anyone explain what a fuel injection service should be like and
what it should cost. Is the service different for different
manufacturers?

It depends on how dirty your fuel injector system is, what chemicals they
are using and, how well they clean it, if it really is coated with build up
or not.
Generally in most cases you won't see any difference before and after,
sometimes the do it yourself stuff is just as effective, and a whole lot
cheaper.
I believe that only in the most extremely dirty situations is it a
worthwhile expense.
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AZGuy
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Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 12:23 pm    Post subject: Re: How is fuel injection service performed? Reply with quote

On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 01:23:54 GMT, "johanb"
<ollieb1o.removethiswhenreplying@cs.com> wrote:

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"Satchel Paige" <dor@writeme.com> wrote in message
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A friend has a 1999 Ford Contour with 80,000 miles on it and was told
she should have the fuel injection serviced. I asked her how the car
ran and she said it runs fine, but since she is the second owner, she
doesn't know if the fuel injection has ever been serviced.

I remember paying about $80 to have the fuel injection on my Isuzu
Rodeo serviced and I watched a mecahanic basically

hook up a bottle to the fuel line and let the engine run for about 20
minutes. Afterwards,
he reved the engine a couple of times as some white smoke came out of
the exhaust and then became clear again.

That's it....
If you didn't noticed any difference means you did it on time.

It is called preventive maintenance



It's called making the boat payments on the mechanic's boat....

Quote:
I did not notice any change
in the Isuzu's performance when I drove it off and wondered if the
fuel injector cleaners sold at Pep Boys would have done the same at a
fraction of the price.

If you use it on a regular basis , every , lets say , forth tank of gas.
Offcourse it will add up that way

Can anyone explain what a fuel injection service should be like and
what it should cost. Is the service different for different
manufacturers?


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"What, sir, is the use of militia? It is to prevent the
establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty. . .
Whenever Government means to invade the rights and liberties of
the people, they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order
to raise a standing army upon its ruins." -- Debate, U.S. House
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Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 12:39 pm    Post subject: Re: How is fuel injection service performed? Reply with quote

"AZGuy" <SPAMOUT@cox.net> wrote in message
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It's called making the boat payments on the mechanic's boat....


Yeah, that too

Are you saying a technician is not allowed to have a boat ???
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Thomas Moats
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Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 5:11 pm    Post subject: Re: How is fuel injection service performed? Reply with quote

"Satchel Paige" <dor@writeme.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
A friend has a 1999 Ford Contour with 80,000 miles on it and was told
she should have the fuel injection serviced. I asked her how the car
ran and she said it runs fine, but since she is the second owner, she
doesn't know if the fuel injection has ever been serviced.

I remember paying about $80 to have the fuel injection on my Isuzu
Rodeo serviced and I watched a mecahanic basically hook up a bottle to
the fuel line and let the engine run for about 20 minutes. Afterwards,
he reved the engine a couple of times as some white smoke came out of
the exhaust and then became clear again. I did not notice any change
in the Isuzu's performance when I drove it off and wondered if the
fuel injector cleaners sold at Pep Boys would have done the same at a
fraction of the price.

Can anyone explain what a fuel injection service should be like and
what it should cost. Is the service different for different
manufacturers?

Basically, you should never need an "injector service". It used simply to make
cash flow at a repair facility.
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Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 5:13 pm    Post subject: Re: How is fuel injection service performed? Reply with quote

"johanb" <ollieb1o.removethiswhenreplying@cs.com> wrote in message
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"Satchel Paige" <dor@writeme.com> wrote in message
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A friend has a 1999 Ford Contour with 80,000 miles on it and was told
she should have the fuel injection serviced. I asked her how the car
ran and she said it runs fine, but since she is the second owner, she
doesn't know if the fuel injection has ever been serviced.

I remember paying about $80 to have the fuel injection on my Isuzu
Rodeo serviced and I watched a mecahanic basically

hook up a bottle to the fuel line and let the engine run for about 20
minutes. Afterwards,
he reved the engine a couple of times as some white smoke came out of
the exhaust and then became clear again.

That's it....
If you didn't noticed any difference means you did it on time.

It is called preventive maintenance



It's called high priced snake oil. It is not preventing anything.

Quote:
I did not notice any change
in the Isuzu's performance when I drove it off and wondered if the
fuel injector cleaners sold at Pep Boys would have done the same at a
fraction of the price.

If you use it on a regular basis , every , lets say , forth tank of gas.
Offcourse it will add up that way

Can anyone explain what a fuel injection service should be like and
what it should cost. Is the service different for different
manufacturers?

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Backyard Mechanic
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Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 5:40 pm    Post subject: Re: How is fuel injection service performed? Reply with quote

frank-in-toronto opined in news:vs91q05eo36mt3okis8n8127u1mf1dd9q7@4ax.com:

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i put some in once in a while.
usually, i wait too long and the car isn't starting too well.
one tank full with cleaner and it's ok again.



If I were you, I'd change gas brands... i bought an Aerostar a month ago and
it took a long time "cranking'to start ... after two tanks of Speedway, it's
cut about in half

If your BP stations now say 'new Arco" blend... try that. I'd NEVER use BP
prior to the change.
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It's called making the boat payments on the mechanic's boat....


Yeah, that too

Are you saying a technician is not allowed to have a boat ???


A good technician shouldn't have time for a boat. <G


Bill
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Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 5:40 pm    Post subject: Re: How is fuel injection service performed? Reply with quote

Backyard Mechanic wrote:
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Satchel Paige opined in news:ab3acb51.0411201320.5254be3a@posting.google.com:


A friend has a 1999 Ford Contour with 80,000 miles on it and was told
she should have the fuel injection serviced. I asked her how the car
ran and she said it runs fine, but since she is the second owner, she
doesn't know if the fuel injection has ever been serviced.

I remember paying about $80 to have the fuel injection on my Isuzu
Rodeo serviced and I watched a mecahanic basically hook up a bottle to
the fuel line and let the engine run for about 20 minutes. Afterwards,
he reved the engine a couple of times as some white smoke came out of
the exhaust and then became clear again. I did not notice any change
in the Isuzu's performance when I drove it off and wondered if the
fuel injector cleaners sold at Pep Boys would have done the same at a
fraction of the price.

Can anyone explain what a fuel injection service should be like and
what it should cost. Is the service different for different
manufacturers?



Is "fuel injection service" listed as scheduled maintenance?

Lessee.. she took the car to a shop for something else and the guy says " Gee
lady you need you muffler bearings lubed"

Where do you live and what is the major gas brand in the area?

I drive high mileage cars and never have used a fuel additive... for grins I
took some injectors in after 160K or so to have them cleaned and profiled and
there was nothing wrong with them.

However.. any time the subject has come up in the last ten years i've been
reading these boards, Techron has been well thought of.. so just do it
yourself.
http://www.chevron.com/prodserv/nafl/auto/content/fueladd.shtm

Although my last car had only 92K when I sold it, I dumped a can of
Techron in the tank once a year before I started a highway trip. During
the 15 years I owned the car, I never had a problem and the car ran like
new when I sold it. Did it help? Who knows, but it was cheap insurance!

Quote:

Please note I think these warnings of deposits are highly exxagerated in the
typical car using a good brand gas.. not necessariily the best known.

For example Speedway gas has never let me down
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On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 14:31:12 GMT, Ken <user@domain.invalid> wrote:

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Backyard Mechanic wrote:
Satchel Paige opined in news:ab3acb51.0411201320.5254be3a@posting.google.com:


A friend has a 1999 Ford Contour with 80,000 miles on it and was told
she should have the fuel injection serviced.
she was taken. if it was running well before and after,

all that happened was the tech's pockets got lined.

you can get fuel injector cleaner at the auto parts
store real cheap. i put some in once in a while.
usually, i wait too long and the car isn't starting too well.
one tank full with cleaner and it's ok again.

what would a car repair facility do? i'll bet it would
come to hundreds of dollars.
....thehick
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"Satchel Paige" <dor@writeme.com> wrote in message
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A friend has a 1999 Ford Contour with 80,000 miles on it and was told
she should have the fuel injection serviced. I asked her how the car
ran and she said it runs fine, but since she is the second owner, she
doesn't know if the fuel injection has ever been serviced.

I remember paying about $80 to have the fuel injection on my Isuzu
Rodeo serviced and I watched a mecahanic basically

hook up a bottle to the fuel line and let the engine run for about 20
minutes. Afterwards,
he reved the engine a couple of times as some white smoke came out of
the exhaust and then became clear again.

That's it....
If you didn't noticed any difference means you did it on time.

It is called preventive maintenance



It's called high priced snake oil. It is not preventing anything.

I'd agree that it won't prevent injectors from getting dirty, but it can
work very well to clean partially clogged injectors.
Bob
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"Bob" <bob@n0spam.net> wrote in message
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I'd agree that it won't prevent injectors from getting dirty, but it can
work very well to clean partially clogged injectors.
Bob



Or.....

prevent them to get more clogged and prevent the engine to start running
rough.

Anyways, difficult subject

does/doesn't.

Preventive maintenance will always be a topic open for long discussions.

You all go ahead, good luck

:-))

Johan
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