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Philip
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From: "Huw" <hedydd[nospam]@tiscali.co.uk>
Newsgroups: alt.autos.toyota
Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: OT Petition to US Congress about the US Marine who 'offed' the
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"Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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"Huw" <hedydd[nospam]@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
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"Scott in Florida" <NotInTheNextLifetime@nope.ucan't> wrote in message
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I guess you want to put Saddam back in...
No, but on the other hand, what gives America the right to invade a
country on a whim and slaughter tens of thousands of people who are
defending their country against the invasion force. Far more are being
killed now than Saddam ever achieved or was likely to in two lifetimes.
There are far worse atrocities and despots than those in Iraq and yet
you do nothing. Maybe you only invade those that you think might not put
up much of a fight? Or is it only those that have oil?
Beware, even the weakest of populations despise invaders more than they
ever could their own.
Bring back the rape rooms.
Like those in Guantanamo you mean?
You are no better than the Iraqis and so have lost the moral imperative
and most of World support for your cause. More of the same will
certainly reinforce your standing as an offensive pariah state with no
principles. The more you spout offensive filth here and everywhere, the
more your Country's reputation is dragged through the slime.
If I were an upright, moral, upstanding US citizen, I would be cringing
at your outspoken views and wishing you would shut the fuck up. But you
go right on ahead if you like. I'm far enough away and am not American
so all I do is cringe in horror at how the loudest mouthed extreme right
have taken over the debate.
Huw
Huw: Put down the Guardian and whatever rabid Leftist tabloid you deem
fit to quote from. Back to oils... that's where you shine.
Before you go off on anyone else here, how about taking one of those
political compass tests like:
http://www.politicalcompass.org
Get back to us promptly to share your assessment results. I know with
certainty that you will not score in the Centrist part of the grid like I
do. :-)
Economic Left/Right: 1.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.26
This makes me just one block to the right of dead centre on the graph.
Huw
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Now go back and give your truthful answers instead of the ones you know are
the ones needed to get a Centrist result. :-)
Honestly, I don't see how you could quote the agenda filled tripe you posted
earlier without the underlying motive being to simply be controversial. Or
are you just being hypocritical for this occasion? ;-)
- Philip
Nov 21, 10:44am
Bridgeport, CA - Mostly Cloudy 19° F H40°/L9°
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Huw
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Mon Nov 22, 2004 12:06 am Post subject:
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"Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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From: "Huw" <hedydd[nospam]@tiscali.co.uk
Now go back and give your truthful answers instead of the ones you know
are
the ones needed to get a Centrist result. :-)
Honestly, I don't see how you could quote the agenda filled tripe you
posted
earlier without the underlying motive being to simply be controversial.
Or
are you just being hypocritical for this occasion? ;-)
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They were truthful answers, although the choice was rather too black or
white for some questions.
I seem to be rather to the left and less authoritarian than Blair or Bush,
which is no surprise because they are obviously pretty far right and
authoritarian according to the graph.
I represent the middle ground, as I knew that I did before that little quiz
which confirms it.
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ToMh
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Mon Nov 22, 2004 2:31 am Post subject:
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"MDT Tech®" <GOP_Majority@whitehouse.gov> wrote in message
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| Quote: | FanJet wrote:
Scott in Florida wrote:
http://www.petitiononline.com/as123/petition.html
Perhaps you'd care to explain, in a believable way, why you think this
necessary.
Perhaps you'd care to explain, in a believable way, why you think that is
necessary.
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As usual, MDT is incapable of a reasoned response to a simple question.
I'm still waiting for one response from you that actually took some thought.
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Rich Lockyer
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Mon Nov 22, 2004 2:52 am Post subject:
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On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 18:47:31 GMT, "Philip"
<1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote:
| Quote: | Now go back and give your truthful answers instead of the ones you know are
the ones needed to get a Centrist result. :-)
Honestly, I don't see how you could quote the agenda filled tripe you posted
earlier without the underlying motive being to simply be controversial. Or
are you just being hypocritical for this occasion? ;-)
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Interesting:
Economic Left/Right: 5.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.36
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Rich Lockyer
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Mon Nov 22, 2004 2:55 am Post subject:
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On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 12:50:48 -0000, "Huw"
<hedydd[nospam]@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
| Quote: | I am not making light of the difficulties faced by an occupying army in
battle. That surely does not excuse barbarity. If the shoe were on the other
foot, as it undoubtedly often is, is it acceptable that US soldiers are
executed in similar circumstances? Of course not.
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If a US soldier were to execute such a cowardly act as to feign death
or injury in an attempt to gain the upper hand in a battlefield
situation or avoid capture, I would expect the enemy to put a shell
into his head upon discovery of that.
--- Rich
http://richlockyer.tripod.com/ |
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Joseph Oberlander
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Mon Nov 22, 2004 5:40 am Post subject:
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MikeHunt@lycos.com wrote:
| Quote: | You are hearing from naive' people that were never in the
military, let alone in combat. In Normandy if somebody took of
picture of one of our guys shooting a Kraut, pretending to be
injured or dead, we would have shot him as well. War is war, not
a sport where both the winner and looser get to go home.
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Except - we are in Iraq with the express goal of trying to
rebuild them into a democracy. Slightly different goals.
"We come in peace... shoot to kill..." |
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FanJet
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Mon Nov 22, 2004 5:41 am Post subject:
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MikeHunt@lycos.com wrote:
| Quote: | You are hearing from naive' people that were never in the
military, let alone in combat. In Normandy if somebody took of
picture of one of our guys shooting a Kraut, pretending to be
injured or dead, we would have shot him as well. War is war, not
a sport where both the winner and looser get to go home.
mike hunt
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Like our commander-in-chief, you mean. |
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bb
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Mon Nov 22, 2004 5:41 am Post subject:
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On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 03:18:19 GMT, "FanJet" <FanJet27@hotmail.com>
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| Quote: | Like our commander-in-chief, you mean.
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CIC, Chickenhawk in Chief.
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Rich Lockyer
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Mon Nov 22, 2004 5:41 am Post subject:
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On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 03:27:00 GMT, bb <blackies@home.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 03:18:19 GMT, "FanJet" <FanJet27@hotmail.com
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Like our commander-in-chief, you mean.
CIC, Chickenhawk in Chief.
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But guess what. He's President. You're not.
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Lady Chatterly
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Mon Nov 22, 2004 10:46 am Post subject:
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In article <XJVnd.104$NU3.52@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> =?ISO-8859-1?Q?MDT_Tech=AE?= <GOP_Majority@whitehouse.gov> wrote:
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Scott in Florida wrote:
I certainly wouldn't count on that...
LOL
Agreed, in fact, your more likely to become a Canadian before anything
like that happnes.
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In 2036, it was discovered (or at least known after testing) that the
5100 computer was capable of reading and changing all of the legacy
code written by IBM before the release of that system and still be
able to create new code in APL and basic. However, IBM never
published that information because it would have probably destroyed a
large part of their business infrastructure in the early 70s. In
fact, I would bet the engineers were probably told to keep their
mouth's shut.
--
Lady Chatterly
"Yo Erissa - you have just been replying to a 'bot - that thing's just
a programme, and not a peeps, not even a loony one!" |
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Lady Chatterly
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Mon Nov 22, 2004 10:48 am Post subject:
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In article <qr31q05ir8t1fefon72i2sps4ejd0km0b2@4ax.com> Scott in Florida <NotInTheNextLifetime@nope.ucant> wrote:
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On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 02:43:27 -0000, "Huw"
hedydd[nospam]@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
"Rich Lockyer" <rlockyer@linkline.DONTSPAMME.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 01:58:12 -0000, "Huw"
hedydd[nospam]@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
|| Frankly, you disgust me. Hopefully most of your countrymen are
|| similarly disgusted by you and the action of that 'soldier'. If not,
|| then God help you all.
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|| Huw
Franklyk, YOU and your gutless wonder terrorist loving friends disgust
ME.
I wish that it was YOU who was laying in that mosque.
Your view cannot be seen as acceptable in any civilised society.
Okay... shoe on the other foot.
I wish that you had been the Marine, and done exactly what you think
he should have done.
Then we wouldn't have to listen to you because your precious
dead/wounded terrorist would have put a bullet in your back as soon as
you had passed.
Were they armed? No.
How the hell do you KNOW that going in?
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Would it matter if they do know that going in?
| Quote: | Tell us what happened to that guy's friend the day before by an
'unarmed' terrorist!!!!!!!!!
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That sounds profound.
| Quote: | They had been left there as wounded prisoners by
another US unit.
Ah ok...that answers it....
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Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to
build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying
to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.
| Quote: | You ever been in that circumstance?
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Do your friends worry you?
| Quote: | The one shot was probably the most badly wounded of them
all. It is on camera. This man did not present a credible threat any more
than the others which were not shot.
Every hear of them setting off a bomb?
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Who are you referring to?
| Quote: | Would you say that was a threat?
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The reason the job of President was eventually split into an office of
5 has 4 main reasons. With 5 (presidents), foreign policy is more
consistent, power shifting between parties has less of an impact on
the overall government, individual strengths between presidents add
to the strength of the overall office, and one president is elected
for each major area in the United States.
| Quote: | Your argument would justify the shooting of all prisoners of war defeated in
battle. This has never been acceptable.
Oh? That is what the Iraqis 'resistance is doing. Why don't you take
your 'high and mighty pissy' attitude over there and tell them!
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I have been saying this stuff about these people for years but I am
not stupid enough to think it is some horrible revelation to say
someone is taking antidepressants.
--
Lady Chatterly
"Lady Chatterly is looking like Stephen Hawking compared to your
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Mon Nov 22, 2004 5:40 pm Post subject:
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In article <nl64q05l52mpmto7qdjd252iud1kuqk4nc@4ax.com>,
bb <blackies@work.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 11:47:48 -0500, MikeHunt@lycos.com wrote:
Our commander in Chief in W.W.II,
Didn't invade a country under false pretense.
President Bush unlike
FDR had military training
So they say. There's just no record of it.
bb
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another brainfart from bb. I thought I told you to go to your room.
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Scott in Florida
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On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 16:23:42 GMT, <diel@spm.com> wrote:
| Quote: | In article <t114q05ke297fe0sf19v4no4c1r4ar7hv5@4ax.com>,
Scott in Florida <NotInTheNextLifetime@nope.ucan't> wrote:
On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 15:05:05 GMT, <diel@spm.com> wrote:
In article <tFmod.4334$Fg2.1745644@newshog.newsread.com>,
"FanJet" <FanJet27@hotmail.com> wrote:
ToMh wrote:
"MDT Tech®" <GOP_Majority@whitehouse.gov> wrote in message
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FanJet wrote:
Scott in Florida wrote:
http://www.petitiononline.com/as123/petition.html
Perhaps you'd care to explain, in a believable way, why you think
this necessary.
Perhaps you'd care to explain, in a believable way, why you think
that is necessary.
As usual, MDT is incapable of a reasoned response to a simple
question. I'm still waiting for one response from you that actually took
some
thought.
It's not just him although he might win the idiot of idiots award. Like
most
of these threads, this one weaaaaay longer than necessary.
All other considerations aside, the solder in dispute acted
unprofessionally, putting other members of his team in additional danger.
In
order for him to be a trusted member of any military organization, he must
conduct himself in a professional, predictable way. He didn't and I have
no
doubt that he knows that. A professional wouldn't expect to 'get away'
with
something like this and would be embarrassed by this petition. I'm sure he
wishes these clowns would disappear I wish him luck.
Idiot!!! Were you there? How would you know anything stupid. Freaks
like you make idiotic comments like that should be drafted. Maybe then
you'd learn a few things. you should be called fartjet.
Agreed!
....but would you want fartjet to be next to you with a weapon?
...on second thought...maybe it would be a good idea to be next to
fartjet with my own weapon (j/k...maybe)...
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Scott in Florida
come to think of it I might do something I would later regret.
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Mon Nov 22, 2004 5:40 pm Post subject:
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Our commander in Chief in W.W.II, like in the war in Iraq, was
never in combat but President Bush unlike
FDR had military training, if that is what you are
asking. ;)
mike
fan-jet wrote:
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MikeHunt@lycos.com wrote:
You are hearing from naive' people that were never in the
military, let alone in combat. In Normandy if somebody took of
picture of one of our guys shooting a Kraut, pretending to be
injured or dead, we would have shot him as well. War is war, not
a sport where both the winner and looser get to go home.
mike hunt
Like our commander-in-chief, you mean. |
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FanJet
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Mon Nov 22, 2004 5:40 pm Post subject:
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diel@spm.com wrote:
| Quote: | In article <tFmod.4334$Fg2.1745644@newshog.newsread.com>,
"FanJet" <FanJet27@hotmail.com> wrote:
ToMh wrote:
"MDT Tech®" <GOP_Majority@whitehouse.gov> wrote in message
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FanJet wrote:
Scott in Florida wrote:
http://www.petitiononline.com/as123/petition.html
Perhaps you'd care to explain, in a believable way, why you think
this necessary.
Perhaps you'd care to explain, in a believable way, why you think
that is necessary.
As usual, MDT is incapable of a reasoned response to a simple
question. I'm still waiting for one response from you that actually
took some
thought.
It's not just him although he might win the idiot of idiots award.
Like most of these threads, this one weaaaaay longer than necessary.
All other considerations aside, the solder in dispute acted
unprofessionally, putting other members of his team in additional
danger. In order for him to be a trusted member of any military
organization, he must conduct himself in a professional, predictable
way. He didn't and I have no doubt that he knows that. A
professional wouldn't expect to 'get away' with something like this
and would be embarrassed by this petition. I'm sure he wishes these
clowns would disappear I wish him luck.
Idiot!!! Were you there? How would you know anything stupid. Freaks
like you make idiotic comments like that should be drafted. Maybe
then you'd learn a few things. you should be called fartjet.
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Gosh, I know lots of stupid things. You, for example, voted for Bush. |
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