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Eric Desrochers
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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 5:28 am    Post subject: Would you recommand waxing a brand new car? Reply with quote

Or do they usually come with some kind of factory treatment?

I'm fairly sure there's no problem, but who knows!

Car is a brand new Echo hatchback 2005 :)

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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 5:40 am    Post subject: Re: Would you recommand waxing a brand new car? Reply with quote

I'll tell you what I do. I usually wait till new car paint is about 6
months old - then spring and fall (usually) I re-wax using a pretty good
wax. Both cars are garaged and both go thru the car was a couple of times a
month but still paint appears very good.
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Bruce L. Bergman
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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 5:40 am    Post subject: Re: Would you recommand waxing a brand new car? Reply with quote

On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 00:28:52 GMT, deromax@hotmail.com (Eric
Desrochers) wrote:

Quote:
Or do they usually come with some kind of factory treatment?

Not unless the dealer adds their "Paint Protection" profit pack
treatment, which you really don't want or need. They spray on $2 of
polish, use $20 of the lot porter's time to apply it and buff it out,
and charge you $200.

Quote:
I'm fairly sure there's no problem, but who knows!

Car is a brand new Echo hatchback 2005 :)

As long as the car is at least 30 days old (manufacturing date) by
the time it gets sold to you, and preferably 60 days, to allow the
paint job time to fully cure and harden. Use a good quality car wax,
follow the instructions, and go to town.

You want a pure wax, no "Polishing" ingredients involved - some
waxes have a very fine abrasive polishing compound in the formula that
works as you buff off the wax residue - and a brand new car shouldn't
have any oxidized paint layer to buff off.

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HachiRoku
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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 12:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Would you recommand waxing a brand new car? Reply with quote

On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 00:28:52 +0000, Eric Desrochers wrote:

Quote:
Or do they usually come with some kind of factory treatment?

I'm fairly sure there's no problem, but who knows!

Car is a brand new Echo hatchback 2005 :)

Use a mild wax, such as Meguire's pure wax (I believe it's in a yellow
tin), or a 'liquid' wax (Meguire's #26, I believe), or Zymol. DO NOT use a
cleaner wax at this stage, or anything with abrasives. This will give it a
nice clear shine without moving any of the paint around, and if you do
this reghulalry it will be a LONG time before you have to use a cleaner
wax to remove oxidation.

Another good treatment is Meguire's New Car Glaze. It is non abrasive and
is equivalent to the Simonize system dealers charge $400 for. It only
needs to be done once a year, followed by a good coating of the waxes
mentioned above. I did this with a 1987 Honda Accord and when my ex traded
it a year and a half ago, it STILL looked new!

I have been using Meguire's for about 20 years and all my cars still look
new (I have 2 mid 80's Toyotas I bought new, now with over 200,000 each!)
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Sleeker GT Phwoar
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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 2:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Would you recommand waxing a brand new car? Reply with quote

In article <hxhnd.14488$tI3.3079@trndny01>, Trueno@ae86.GTS says...
Quote:
I have been using Meguire's for about 20 years and all my cars still look
new (I have 2 mid 80's Toyotas I bought new, now with over 200,000 each!)

I've just moved from Autoglym ultra gloss to Meguires cleaner wax. on

recommendation. Good stuff.

So good that when I ran out of Shampoo, I bought Goldclass instead of
Autoglym conditioning Shampoo + a bottle of body scrub, as some parts
are little neglected and flat unless directly after waxing (especially
arround where the last owner debadged/de-decaled it).

When I bought the GT4 (alltrac in US) the previous owner gave me a part
bottle of Turtlewax colour magic and said I had no excuse not to use it.
I didn't say so to his face, but I do. It is really shit. I dislike any
wax that adds colour stain to paint. I can't even see it being seriously
effective on clearcoat anyway. That got binned,a nd I got the car
properly polished with Autoglym resin polish and the Megs cleaner wax.
Got most of the colour crapoff after a couple of polishes.
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Ted Johnson
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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 2:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Would you recommand waxing a brand new car? Reply with quote

Seeing as how it's an Echo, I think you should really
use this wax:

http://www.zymol.com/vintage2.htm

Sure it's a little pricey, but you can really see the difference ;-)

-Ted
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Joseph Oberlander
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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 5:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Would you recommand waxing a brand new car? Reply with quote

HachiRoku wrote:

Quote:
On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 00:28:52 +0000, Eric Desrochers wrote:


Or do they usually come with some kind of factory treatment?

I'm fairly sure there's no problem, but who knows!

Car is a brand new Echo hatchback 2005 :)


Use a mild wax, such as Meguire's pure wax (I believe it's in a yellow
tin),

I can vouch for this. It has zero grit in it - like a big
wad of nice smelling lard or butter ;)

Shines the car nicely.

Note - grit on your applicator, though, will cause problems.
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Mark W
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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 5:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Would you recommand waxing a brand new car? Reply with quote

"Eric Desrochers" <deromax@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
Or do they usually come with some kind of factory treatment?

I'm fairly sure there's no problem, but who knows!

Car is a brand new Echo hatchback 2005 :)



I use paint stripper to remove all the paint off my cars, then metal polish
ever after.
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Sleeker GT Phwoar
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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 5:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Would you recommand waxing a brand new car? Reply with quote

In article <cnkeu1$n05@estaff05.mayfield.hp.com>,
ted@estaff05.mayfield.hp.com says...
Quote:
Seeing as how it's an Echo, I think you should really
use this wax:

http://www.zymol.com/vintage2.htm

Sure it's a little pricey, but you can really see the difference ;-)

-Ted

This

http://www.emmonscoachworks.com/ecommerce/shopDetails.cfm?p=5387&cat=4
Is the stuff you really want.
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Scott in Florida
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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 5:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Would you recommand waxing a brand new car? Reply with quote

On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 07:46:21 GMT, HachiRoku <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote:

Quote:
On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 00:28:52 +0000, Eric Desrochers wrote:

Or do they usually come with some kind of factory treatment?

I'm fairly sure there's no problem, but who knows!

Car is a brand new Echo hatchback 2005 :)

Use a mild wax, such as Meguire's pure wax (I believe it's in a yellow
tin), or a 'liquid' wax (Meguire's #26, I believe), or Zymol. DO NOT use a
cleaner wax at this stage, or anything with abrasives. This will give it a
nice clear shine without moving any of the paint around, and if you do
this reghulalry it will be a LONG time before you have to use a cleaner
wax to remove oxidation.

Another good treatment is Meguire's New Car Glaze. It is non abrasive and
is equivalent to the Simonize system dealers charge $400 for. It only
needs to be done once a year, followed by a good coating of the waxes
mentioned above. I did this with a 1987 Honda Accord and when my ex traded
it a year and a half ago, it STILL looked new!

I have been using Meguire's for about 20 years and all my cars still look
new (I have 2 mid 80's Toyotas I bought new, now with over 200,000 each!)

I've been using McGuire's on my '92 Corolla Wagon since I got it at
60,000 miles.

The gray paint looks like brand new....even being out in the Florida
sun all the time.

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Scott in Florida
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Scott in Florida
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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 5:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Would you recommand waxing a brand new car? Reply with quote

On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 03:00:43 GMT, "ron" <randus3remove@pacbell.net>
wrote:

Quote:
I'll tell you what I do. I usually wait till new car paint is about 6
months old - then spring and fall (usually) I re-wax using a pretty good
wax. Both cars are garaged and both go thru the car was a couple of times a
month but still paint appears very good.


My 2 car garage hasn't been able to 'house' a car since we bought our
house in 1979....

Florida sucks for storage. No basements! ..and until recently no
multi stories homes...lol


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Scott in Florida
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Mark Pippin
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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 11:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Would you recommand waxing a brand new car? Reply with quote

A LITTLE PRICEY at $1511... LOL

go polish your Bentley... ;-)



ted@estaff05.mayfield.hp.com (Ted Johnson) wrote in message news:<cnkeu1$n05@estaff05.mayfield.hp.com>...
Quote:
Seeing as how it's an Echo, I think you should really
use this wax:

http://www.zymol.com/vintage2.htm

Sure it's a little pricey, but you can really see the difference ;-)

-Ted
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Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 12:21 am    Post subject: Re: Would you recommand waxing a brand new car? Reply with quote

Treat the paint with a polymer when you notice that
water is no longer beading up on the paint, WBMA.



mike hunt



Eric Desrochers wrote:
Quote:

Or do they usually come with some kind of factory treatment?

I'm fairly sure there's no problem, but who knows!

Car is a brand new Echo hatchback 2005 :)

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Eric (Dero) Desrochers
http://homepage.mac.com/dero72

Hiroshima 45, Tchernobyl 86, Windows 95
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ron
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Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 12:32 am    Post subject: Re: Would you recommand waxing a brand new car? Reply with quote

Hey Ted - I bet could could get the larger size at Costco and save several
thousand bucks!!
ron
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HachiRoku
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Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 5:41 am    Post subject: Re: Would you recommand waxing a brand new car? Reply with quote

On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 09:14:50 +0000, Sleeker GT Phwoar wrote:

Quote:
In article <hxhnd.14488$tI3.3079@trndny01>, Trueno@ae86.GTS says...
I have been using Meguire's for about 20 years and all my cars still look
new (I have 2 mid 80's Toyotas I bought new, now with over 200,000 each!)

I've just moved from Autoglym ultra gloss to Meguires cleaner wax. on
recommendation. Good stuff.

So good that when I ran out of Shampoo, I bought Goldclass instead of
Autoglym conditioning Shampoo + a bottle of body scrub, as some parts
are little neglected and flat unless directly after waxing (especially
arround where the last owner debadged/de-decaled it).

When I bought the GT4 (alltrac in US) the previous owner gave me a part
bottle of Turtlewax colour magic and said I had no excuse not to use it.
I didn't say so to his face, but I do. It is really shit. I dislike any
wax that adds colour stain to paint. I can't even see it being seriously
effective on clearcoat anyway. That got binned,a nd I got the car
properly polished with Autoglym resin polish and the Megs cleaner wax.
Got most of the colour crapoff after a couple of polishes.


Hmmm...AutoGlym...not familiar with that one.

And I don't blame you for 'binning' (nice phrase, BTW!) the Turtle wax! I
only use that stuff on a car that has been seriously neglected and the
paint is oxidized so bad even a good buffing won't help. At least it
*kind* of makes it look acceptable!
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