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Craig Parsons
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Sat Feb 26, 2005 8:50 pm Post subject:
2005 Megane. Auto Locking Doors? |
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Hi Folks,
I have a 2005 (54 plate) UK spec Renault Megane 1.9dCi Expression, and
am wandering if there is anyway to make the ECU automatically lock the doors
when the car moves off.
On my old Focus you could do this by moving the key in a certain order.
Anyone with any ideas?
Thanks.
Craig
PS: Yes, I am too lazy to press the lock button every time!!
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David Thornber
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Sat Feb 26, 2005 11:08 pm Post subject:
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In message <42209acc$0$19809$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net>, Craig
Parsons <news.posts@cparsons.plus.com> writes
| Quote: | Hi Folks,
I have a 2005 (54 plate) UK spec Renault Megane 1.9dCi Expression, and
am wandering if there is anyway to make the ECU automatically lock the doors
when the car moves off.
On my old Focus you could do this by moving the key in a certain order.
Anyone with any ideas?
IIRC, it goes as follows on the Laguna. The Megane is probably the same |
or similar:
Insert the card in the slot but do not start the engine.
Press and hold the 'lock' side of the interior central locking switch
until you get some kind of acknowledgement (either a beep or voice,
depending on spec.)
De-activation is the same, except that you hold the 'unlock' side of the
switch.
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Pete Smith
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Sat Feb 26, 2005 11:38 pm Post subject:
Re: 2005 Megane. Auto Locking Doors? |
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In article <8nf0fiB6sLICFwH9@thornber.demon.co.uk>,
nospam@thornber.demon.co.uk says...
| Quote: | In message <42209acc$0$19809$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net>, Craig
Parsons <news.posts@cparsons.plus.com> writes
Hi Folks,
I have a 2005 (54 plate) UK spec Renault Megane 1.9dCi Expression, and
am wandering if there is anyway to make the ECU automatically lock the doors
when the car moves off.
On my old Focus you could do this by moving the key in a certain order.
Anyone with any ideas?
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Is there any way of turning this _on_ for a Mondeo Mk 3?
Many of the existing "Focus Hacks" work for the Mondeo, specifically the
Instrument Cluster diagnostic mode.
Pete.
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Craig Parsons
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Sun Feb 27, 2005 3:29 am Post subject:
Re: 2005 Megane. Auto Locking Doors? |
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Hi All,
Thanks for your prompt postings, I'll give it a try when I go out
tomorrow.
Pete, if your Mondeo has the GEM module (does the locking/keys), then
the key sequence to turn it in should be the same. Details are at
http://www.torquesteer.co.uk/store/detail.php?itemID=f54fadb01bab43601e200b.
Otherwise go on eBay and buy a copy of the ford TIS CD. Its the CD the
dealers use and has all the manuals... thats how I found it.
Craig.
"Pete Smith" <pete_news@lethe.org.uk> wrote in message
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| Quote: | In article <8nf0fiB6sLICFwH9@thornber.demon.co.uk>,
nospam@thornber.demon.co.uk says...
In message <42209acc$0$19809$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net>, Craig
Parsons <news.posts@cparsons.plus.com> writes
Hi Folks,
I have a 2005 (54 plate) UK spec Renault Megane 1.9dCi Expression,
and
am wandering if there is anyway to make the ECU automatically lock the
doors
when the car moves off.
On my old Focus you could do this by moving the key in a certain
order.
Anyone with any ideas?
Is there any way of turning this _on_ for a Mondeo Mk 3?
Many of the existing "Focus Hacks" work for the Mondeo, specifically the
Instrument Cluster diagnostic mode.
Pete.
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Pete Smith
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Mon Feb 28, 2005 12:06 am Post subject:
Re: 2005 Megane. Auto Locking Doors? |
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In article <4220f84e$0$53457$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net>,
news.posts@cparsons.plus.com says...
| Quote: | "Pete Smith" <pete_news@lethe.org.uk> wrote in message
news:MPG.1c8ad263aeef12bf98aa07@usenet.plus.net...
In article <8nf0fiB6sLICFwH9@thornber.demon.co.uk>,
nospam@thornber.demon.co.uk says...
In message <42209acc$0$19809$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net>, Craig
Parsons <news.posts@cparsons.plus.com> writes
Hi Folks,
I have a 2005 (54 plate) UK spec Renault Megane 1.9dCi Expression,
and
am wandering if there is anyway to make the ECU automatically lock the
doors
when the car moves off.
On my old Focus you could do this by moving the key in a certain
order.
Anyone with any ideas?
Is there any way of turning this _on_ for a Mondeo Mk 3?
Pete, if your Mondeo has the GEM module (does the locking/keys), then
the key sequence to turn it in should be the same. Details are at
http://www.torquesteer.co.uk/store/detail.php?itemID=f54fadb01bab43601e200b.
Otherwise go on eBay and buy a copy of the ford TIS CD. Its the CD the
dealers use and has all the manuals... thats how I found it.
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Ah, interesting. I'll give it a go. Thanks.
FWIW, I've got the TIS. I could buy it for £1.50 on a CDR on Ebay, which is
obviously not kosher, so I just downloaded it instead!
Pete.
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Bob Mc
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Mon Feb 28, 2005 3:16 pm Post subject:
Re: 2005 Megane. Auto Locking Doors? |
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"Craig Parsons" <news.posts@cparsons.plus.com> wrote in message
news:42209acc$0$19809$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net...
| Quote: | Hi Folks,
I have a 2005 (54 plate) UK spec Renault Megane 1.9dCi Expression, and
am wandering if there is anyway to make the ECU automatically lock the
doors
when the car moves off.
On my old Focus you could do this by moving the key in a certain
order.
Anyone with any ideas?
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Can someone explain to me why one should want to have
the doors locked while the car is moving?
I can understand it stopping at lights or so, in case of getting attacked,
but if the doors are locked, how much longer does it take to get you out
after an accident?
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David Thornber
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Mon Feb 28, 2005 4:19 pm Post subject:
Re: 2005 Megane. Auto Locking Doors? |
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In message <38g9bkF5n2qslU1@individual.net>, Bob Mc
<bob.mcminn@g_DEL_mail.com> writes
| Quote: | Can someone explain to me why one should want to have
the doors locked while the car is moving?
I can understand it stopping at lights or so, in case of getting attacked,
but if the doors are locked, how much longer does it take to get you out
after an accident?
The idea is that the doors lock as soon as you drive away, and don't |
unlock again until you open one of the doors. The whole point is that
they remain locked when you stop at lights or in traffic. It takes no
time at all to get out of the car - the interior door handles aren't
locked, and all of the exterior door handles unlock automatically as
soon as one of the doors is opened from the inside.
It might take longer for someone to get you out of the car in the event
of an accident, although I'd be surprised if the system didn't
automatically unlock in the event of a severe impact. Besides, the door
locks are the least of your worries in a severe smash. I once had to
help someone out of the boot of their Fiesta because it was the only
door that would still open after the car had rear-ended a van.
I switched my car's auto locking system on when I got it about 2.5 years
ago, and it's never caused a serious inconvenience. The only time it
ever catches me out is if I stop to pick up a passenger. I almost
invariably forget to press the unlock button, leaving them tugging on
the door handle until I've pressed it.
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Bob Mc
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Mon Feb 28, 2005 4:32 pm Post subject:
Re: 2005 Megane. Auto Locking Doors? |
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"David Thornber" <nospam@thornber.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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| Quote: | In message <38g9bkF5n2qslU1@individual.net>, Bob Mc
bob.mcminn@g_DEL_mail.com> writes
Can someone explain to me why one should want to have
the doors locked while the car is moving?
I can understand it stopping at lights or so, in case of getting
attacked,
but if the doors are locked, how much longer does it take to get you out
after an accident?
The idea is that the doors lock as soon as you drive away, and don't
unlock again until you open one of the doors. The whole point is that
they remain locked when you stop at lights or in traffic. It takes no
time at all to get out of the car - the interior door handles aren't
locked, and all of the exterior door handles unlock automatically as
soon as one of the doors is opened from the inside.
It might take longer for someone to get you out of the car in the event
of an accident, although I'd be surprised if the system didn't
automatically unlock in the event of a severe impact. Besides, the door
locks are the least of your worries in a severe smash. I once had to
help someone out of the boot of their Fiesta because it was the only
door that would still open after the car had rear-ended a van.
I switched my car's auto locking system on when I got it about 2.5 years
ago, and it's never caused a serious inconvenience. The only time it
ever catches me out is if I stop to pick up a passenger. I almost
invariably forget to press the unlock button, leaving them tugging on
the door handle until I've pressed it.
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Hmmm.
My thoughts are that you know in advance when you're stopping and
you can see if it's potentially dangerous.
I would guess that the great majority of driving pauses are not at dangerous
places, anyway.
Accidents, on the otherhand, happen accidentally and locked doors
are just one more complication on the way to saving life.
After living in Manchester, London, Dortmund, Düsseldorf, Paris, Zurich
and various smaller towns and never having been mugged
and after having various accidents (my or not my fault),
I will leave my doors unlocked for safety.
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David Thornber
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Mon Feb 28, 2005 5:30 pm Post subject:
Re: 2005 Megane. Auto Locking Doors? |
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In message <38gdrdF5ontkjU1@individual.net>, Bob Mc
<bob.mcminn@g_DEL_mail.com> writes
| Quote: | My thoughts are that you know in advance when you're stopping and
you can see if it's potentially dangerous.
I would guess that the great majority of driving pauses are not at dangerous
places, anyway.
Accidents, on the otherhand, happen accidentally and locked doors
are just one more complication on the way to saving life.
Well each to their own I suppose. If you really believe that you can |
spot every potentially risky situation and remember to lock and unlock
the doors each time, then I suppose the system is redundant in your
case.
| Quote: | After living in Manchester, London, Dortmund, Düsseldorf, Paris, Zurich
and various smaller towns and never having been mugged
and after having various accidents (my or not my fault),
I will leave my doors unlocked for safety.
You've lived in Manchester? I take it you've driven down Regent Road in |
Salford then. It's not been so bad the last few years, but at one point
you'd regularly see the kids there waiting for an opportunity to steal
from standing traffic. There'd be the look-out, standing balanced on a
mountain bike, looking into the cars for stuff worth nicking, and the
runner's who'd actually do the grab and leg it. A colleague had his bag
nicked off the back seat of his car on Regent Road in exactly these
circumstances.
The same kids would actually 'case' your car while you were filling up
with petrol at the Mobil garage on the same road: Blatantly walking
past and having a good look inside while you're standing there with the
pump nozzle in your hand. Presumably, if there was anything worth
having, there'd be a brick through your window while you went to pay.
They've knocked that garage down now.
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Pete Smith
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Tue Mar 01, 2005 12:29 am Post subject:
Re: 2005 Megane. Auto Locking Doors? |
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In article <38g9bkF5n2qslU1@individual.net>, bob.mcminn@g_DEL_mail.com
says...
| Quote: | "Craig Parsons" <news.posts@cparsons.plus.com> wrote in message
news:42209acc$0$19809$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net...
Hi Folks,
I have a 2005 (54 plate) UK spec Renault Megane 1.9dCi Expression, and
am wandering if there is anyway to make the ECU automatically lock the
doors
when the car moves off.
On my old Focus you could do this by moving the key in a certain
order.
Anyone with any ideas?
Can someone explain to me why one should want to have
the doors locked while the car is moving?
I can understand it stopping at lights or so, in case of getting attacked,
but if the doors are locked, how much longer does it take to get you out
after an accident?
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None, because door locks are fail-safe. Even if the power's out, pulling the
door handle will unlock the door.
The only time this won't happen, is if the doors are deadlocked, and in an
accident, they're un-deadlocked as a matter of course.
If the doors auto-lock, and you have an accident, and they deadlock
themselves, I'd be 99% sure that they'd have deadlocked themselves even if
they were unlocked.
I only did it because I enjoy tinkering. Forget a whale tail spoiler, I
think auto-locking doors are much cooler.
Pete.
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fob
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Tue Mar 01, 2005 12:52 am Post subject:
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bonjour,
en cas d'accident, les portes se déverrouillent automatiquement, il ni a
donc pas de danger de rester bloquer.
le verrouillage se fait à partir d'une vitesse de 7 km/h.
il est toutefois possible d'annuler cette fonction.
cordialement
bob
"Pete Smith" <pete_news@lethe.org.uk> a écrit dans le message de
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| Quote: | In article <38g9bkF5n2qslU1@individual.net>, bob.mcminn@g_DEL_mail.com
says...
"Craig Parsons" <news.posts@cparsons.plus.com> wrote in message
news:42209acc$0$19809$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net...
Hi Folks,
I have a 2005 (54 plate) UK spec Renault Megane 1.9dCi Expression,
and
am wandering if there is anyway to make the ECU automatically lock the
doors
when the car moves off.
On my old Focus you could do this by moving the key in a certain
order.
Anyone with any ideas?
Can someone explain to me why one should want to have
the doors locked while the car is moving?
I can understand it stopping at lights or so, in case of getting
attacked,
but if the doors are locked, how much longer does it take to get you out
after an accident?
None, because door locks are fail-safe. Even if the power's out, pulling
the
door handle will unlock the door.
The only time this won't happen, is if the doors are deadlocked, and in an
accident, they're un-deadlocked as a matter of course.
If the doors auto-lock, and you have an accident, and they deadlock
themselves, I'd be 99% sure that they'd have deadlocked themselves even if
they were unlocked.
I only did it because I enjoy tinkering. Forget a whale tail spoiler, I
think auto-locking doors are much cooler.
Pete.
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Guy King
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Tue Mar 01, 2005 1:14 am Post subject:
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The message <422375de$0$25038$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr>
from "fob" <rton@wanadoo.fr> contains these words:
| Quote: | en cas d'accident, les portes se déverrouillent automatiquement,
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Provided you can trust the ECU to work properly.
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Skipweasel.
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James C. Reeves
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"Bob Mc" <bob.mcminn@g_DEL_mail.com> wrote in message
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Hmmm.
My thoughts are that you know in advance when you're stopping and
you can see if it's potentially dangerous.
I would guess that the great majority of driving pauses are not at
dangerous
places, anyway.
Accidents, on the otherhand, happen accidentally and locked doors
are just one more complication on the way to saving life.
After living in Manchester, London, Dortmund, Düsseldorf, Paris, Zurich
and various smaller towns and never having been mugged
and after having various accidents (my or not my fault),
I will leave my doors unlocked for safety.
--
Bob Mc
(der Brit in der Schweiz)
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o Locked doors are statistically less likely to "spring
open" during a collision, dumping unrestrained
contents and occupants out.
o Most manufacturer's locks "unlock" several seconds
after a collision has been sensed. It's usually
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Bob Mc
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Tue Mar 01, 2005 7:49 am Post subject:
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| Quote: | The message <422375de$0$25038$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr
from "fob" <rton@wanadoo.fr> contains these words:
en cas d'accident, les portes se déverrouillent automatiquement,
Provided you can trust the ECU to work properly.
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Perzackerly!
I am a software developer and it is said in out trade
that there is _no_ software in the world without errors!
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Bob Mc
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"Pete Smith" <pete_news@lethe.org.uk> wrote in message
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Can someone explain to me why one should want to have
the doors locked while the car is moving?
I can understand it stopping at lights or so, in case of getting
attacked,
but if the doors are locked, how much longer does it take to get you out
after an accident?
None, because door locks are fail-safe. Even if the power's out, pulling
the
door handle will unlock the door.
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From the inside and then only if you're conscious and cosmos mentis.
| Quote: | The only time this won't happen, is if the doors are deadlocked, and in an
accident, they're un-deadlocked as a matter of course.
If the doors auto-lock, and you have an accident, and they deadlock
themselves, I'd be 99% sure that they'd have deadlocked themselves even if
they were unlocked.
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I didn't even know that car doors have this possibility.
| Quote: | I only did it because I enjoy tinkering. Forget a whale tail spoiler, I
think auto-locking doors are much cooler.
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That's an good reason!
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