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Dr.Jai Maharaj
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Wed Nov 17, 2004 5:41 am Post subject:
Bush and Blair:Self righteous insolence. |
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George Bush and Anthony Blair know that they insulted the international
community and broke international law when they attacked Iraq, a country
which posed no threat whatsoever against their countries, despite all
the lies.
To try to justify themselves, they stand together with increasing
frequency, patting each other on the back, exchanging pleasantries and
preening themselves in public in a sickening display of mutual affection
which, if they were girls, would no doubt see them going into the toilet
together.
With phrases like, "We'll hold their feet to the fire to make sure that
democracy prevails", George Bush displays his black-and-white,
provincial and limited view of the world stage yet again. Hold their
feet to the fire? Why not go the whole hog and throw them on it, or else
drop cluster bombs in their residential areas? Or how about sending
Lynndie England to Palestine to provide us with photos which look like
they were taken in Belsen?
With phrases like,"If we want a viable Palestinian state, we want to
make sure the political, the economic and the security infrastructure of
that state is shaped and comes into being," the British Prime Minister,
who knows very well shat he is doing, make it crystal clear that this
marauding Anglo-Saxon is alive, very well, and thriving and that we can
all expect more of the same.
However, the world is not their oyster. The ones who stood up for
values, moral and ethical values, and international law were not
Washington and London. While Moscow, Paris, Berlin, Beijing and Brasilia
were busy forming an Axis of Reason, London and Washington, with a
handful of frightened sycophants, were forging an Axis of Evil and
committing war crimes.
Civilians were murdered. Cluster bombs were deployed in residential
areas. Kids had their legs and arms blasted off them. Women were raped
in custody. People were tortured. Tens of thousands were injured and
tens of thousands were killed. Lies were told. Documents were forged. Is
this being "the pillars of a free world?"
The stance taken by Bush and Blair in blowing their trumpets so often
spells out two things: first, that they are deep-down uneasy with what
they have done, indeed Tony Blair nearly resigned earlier this year and
contemplated changing from Anglicanism to Catholicism, which, however
noble a quest, reveals that he is troubled inside and second, this
Anglo-Saxon Alliance remains and continues to be an insult to the
international community which through the United Nations Organization,
made one simple request: that Washington and London adhere to
international law.
They did not because they had committed their troops in the area before
bothering to find out the facts and were not man enough to back down.
Bush and Blair do not stand for freedom and democracy or anything else
because free and democratic states must follow the principles of freedom
and democracy, namely debate, discussion, dialogue and the UN Security
Council is the proper forum for crisis management, not the rule of the
rifle.
Bush behaved like an American settler, taming the wilderness with the
bullet and the Bible. Blair followed him because he would do anything to
gain protagonism. It is as simple as that.
Bush and Blair stand for war crimes and murder, Bush and Blair stand for
a breach of international law and an insult to those who uphold and
abide by it. Nothing else.
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FanJet
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Wed Nov 17, 2004 5:40 pm Post subject:
Re: Bush and Blair:Self righteous insolence. |
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Dr.Jai Maharaj wrote:
| Quote: | George Bush and Anthony Blair know that they insulted the
international community and broke international law when they
attacked Iraq, a country which posed no threat whatsoever against
their countries, despite all the lies.
To try to justify themselves, they stand together with increasing
frequency, patting each other on the back, exchanging pleasantries and
preening themselves in public in a sickening display of mutual
affection which, if they were girls, would no doubt see them going
into the toilet together.
With phrases like, "We'll hold their feet to the fire to make sure
that democracy prevails", George Bush displays his black-and-white,
provincial and limited view of the world stage yet again. Hold their
feet to the fire? Why not go the whole hog and throw them on it, or
else drop cluster bombs in their residential areas? Or how about
sending Lynndie England to Palestine to provide us with photos which
look like they were taken in Belsen?
With phrases like,"If we want a viable Palestinian state, we want to
make sure the political, the economic and the security infrastructure
of that state is shaped and comes into being," the British Prime
Minister, who knows very well shat he is doing, make it crystal clear
that this marauding Anglo-Saxon is alive, very well, and thriving and
that we can all expect more of the same.
However, the world is not their oyster. The ones who stood up for
values, moral and ethical values, and international law were not
Washington and London. While Moscow, Paris, Berlin, Beijing and
Brasilia were busy forming an Axis of Reason, London and Washington,
with a handful of frightened sycophants, were forging an Axis of Evil
and committing war crimes.
Civilians were murdered. Cluster bombs were deployed in residential
areas. Kids had their legs and arms blasted off them. Women were raped
in custody. People were tortured. Tens of thousands were injured and
tens of thousands were killed. Lies were told. Documents were forged.
Is this being "the pillars of a free world?"
The stance taken by Bush and Blair in blowing their trumpets so often
spells out two things: first, that they are deep-down uneasy with what
they have done, indeed Tony Blair nearly resigned earlier this year
and contemplated changing from Anglicanism to Catholicism, which,
however noble a quest, reveals that he is troubled inside and second,
this Anglo-Saxon Alliance remains and continues to be an insult to the
international community which through the United Nations Organization,
made one simple request: that Washington and London adhere to
international law.
They did not because they had committed their troops in the area
before bothering to find out the facts and were not man enough to
back down. Bush and Blair do not stand for freedom and democracy or
anything else because free and democratic states must follow the
principles of freedom and democracy, namely debate, discussion,
dialogue and the UN Security Council is the proper forum for crisis
management, not the rule of the rifle.
Bush behaved like an American settler, taming the wilderness with the
bullet and the Bible. Blair followed him because he would do anything
to gain protagonism. It is as simple as that.
Bush and Blair stand for war crimes and murder, Bush and Blair stand
for a breach of international law and an insult to those who uphold
and abide by it. Nothing else.
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Well, sure, if you want to look at it that way. But remember, Connie Rice
has promised her boss a fresh face for all of this - one that even you could
love. |
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Thu Nov 18, 2004 5:40 am Post subject:
Re: Bush and Blair: Were Right |
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There was no violation of international law, as you seem to
believe. Under international law and the UN Charter the US and
or the UK and or the UN, as signatories to the first gulf war
cease fire agreement, had not only the right but the duty to
resume hostilities with Iraq for repeated violations of that
cease fire agreement. Iraq violated the cease fire agreement by
firing on our aircraft over several years in the no fly zones and
by Iraqs failure for over twelve years to disclose the location
of, or prove the destruction of, the weapons he listed in that
agreement that he possessed that violated international law.. Do
some research before you post more misinformation on the subject
would be my advice.
mike hunt
"Dr.Jai Maharaj" wrote:
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George Bush and Anthony Blair know that they insulted the international
community and broke international law when they attacked Iraq,
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| Quote: | Bush and Blair stand for war crimes and murder, Bush and Blair stand for
a breach of international law and an insult to those who uphold and
abide by it. Nothing else. |
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FanJet
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Thu Nov 18, 2004 5:40 am Post subject:
Re: Bush and Blair: Were Right |
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BenDover@mailcity.com wrote:
| Quote: | There was no violation of international law, as you seem to
believe. Under international law and the UN Charter the US and
or the UK and or the UN, as signatories to the first gulf war
cease fire agreement, had not only the right but the duty to
resume hostilities with Iraq for repeated violations of that
cease fire agreement. Iraq violated the cease fire agreement by
firing on our aircraft over several years in the no fly zones and
by Iraqs failure for over twelve years to disclose the location
of, or prove the destruction of, the weapons he listed in that
agreement that he possessed that violated international law.. Do
some research before you post more misinformation on the subject
would be my advice.
mike hunt
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At any given point in time there are THOUSANDS of UN charter and
international law violations. Some very serious. Everyone with even a
passing interest in the matter knows that pre-US invasion/occupation Iraq
cease fire violations were no serious threat to the US, the UK or the UN. In
the same time frame, the UN was doing a fine job of sifting through all of
Iraq looking for, and not finding, WOMD. You ought to take you own advice. |
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Thu Nov 18, 2004 2:40 pm Post subject:
Re: Bush and Blair: Were Right |
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In article <khWmd.4128$Fg2.1668338@newshog.newsread.com>,
"FanJet" <FanJet27@hotmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | BenDover@mailcity.com wrote:
There was no violation of international law, as you seem to
believe. Under international law and the UN Charter the US and
or the UK and or the UN, as signatories to the first gulf war
cease fire agreement, had not only the right but the duty to
resume hostilities with Iraq for repeated violations of that
cease fire agreement. Iraq violated the cease fire agreement by
firing on our aircraft over several years in the no fly zones and
by Iraqs failure for over twelve years to disclose the location
of, or prove the destruction of, the weapons he listed in that
agreement that he possessed that violated international law.. Do
some research before you post more misinformation on the subject
would be my advice.
mike hunt
At any given point in time there are THOUSANDS of UN charter and
international law violations. Some very serious. Everyone with even a
passing interest in the matter knows that pre-US invasion/occupation Iraq
cease fire violations were no serious threat to the US, the UK or the UN. In
the same time frame, the UN was doing a fine job of sifting through all of
Iraq looking for, and not finding, WOMD. You ought to take you own advice.
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They were a serious threat because our planes and GBs planes were being
shot at in the no fly zone.
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Sleeker GT Phwoar
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Thu Nov 18, 2004 5:40 pm Post subject:
Re: Bush and Blair: Were Right |
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In article <deil-2E72FC.03402618112004@hermes-ge0.rdc-kc.rr.com>,
deil@mospam.com says...
| Quote: | They were a serious threat because our planes and GBs planes were being
shot at in the no fly zone.
And what were those planes doing in a no fly zone? |
Isn't that what you are supposed to do to planes in a no fly zone?
How the hell do we know for sure that those planes being shot at weren't
covered up Blue on blue incidents?
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"Sorry Sir, the meatballs are Orf"
The poster formerly known as Skodapilot.
http://www.bouncing-czechs.com |
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Thu Nov 18, 2004 5:40 pm Post subject:
Re: Bush and Blair: Were Right |
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In article <MPG.1c06d59d16a318398a86d@news.individual.net>,
Sleeker GT Phwoar <carl.robson@bouncing-czechs.com> wrote:
| Quote: | In article <deil-2E72FC.03402618112004@hermes-ge0.rdc-kc.rr.com>,
deil@mospam.com says...
They were a serious threat because our planes and GBs planes were being
shot at in the no fly zone.
And what were those planes doing in a no fly zone?
Isn't that what you are supposed to do to planes in a no fly zone?
How the hell do we know for sure that those planes being shot at weren't
covered up Blue on blue incidents?
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Ha ha. Our planes were flying in the no fly zone to make sure Iraq
didnt fly planes in the no fly zone......LOL
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dizzy
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Fri Nov 19, 2004 5:31 am Post subject:
Re: Bush and Blair: Were Right |
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On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 05:19:12 GMT, "FanJet" <FanJet27@hotmail.com>
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| Quote: | Some stupid top-posting troll and idiot calling himself BenDover@mailcity.com wrote:
Do some research before you post more misinformation on the subject
would be my advice.
mike hunt
At any given point in time there are THOUSANDS of UN charter and
international law violations. Some very serious. Everyone with even a
passing interest in the matter knows that pre-US invasion/occupation Iraq
cease fire violations were no serious threat to the US, the UK or the UN. In
the same time frame, the UN was doing a fine job of sifting through all of
Iraq looking for, and not finding, WOMD. You ought to take you own advice.
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Yeah, "do some research" is the favorite line of the dumbshit troll
"Mike Hunt". 'Course, he spews bullshit all the time himself, and
quietly exits the thread when challenged. He's just a stupid troll. |
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Scott in Florida
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Fri Nov 19, 2004 5:40 am Post subject:
Re: Bush and Blair: Were Right |
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On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 15:52:31 -0000, Sleeker GT Phwoar
<carl.robson@bouncing-czechs.com> wrote:
| Quote: | In article <deil-2E72FC.03402618112004@hermes-ge0.rdc-kc.rr.com>,
deil@mospam.com says...
They were a serious threat because our planes and GBs planes were being
shot at in the no fly zone.
And what were those planes doing in a no fly zone?
Isn't that what you are supposed to do to planes in a no fly zone?
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We were enforcing the no fly zone...part of the cease fire that Saddam
agreed to.
The original war was never really over...
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How the hell do we know for sure that those planes being shot at weren't
covered up Blue on blue incidents?
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Because we said those planes were being shot at...
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Scott in Florida |
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FanJet
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Fri Nov 19, 2004 5:40 am Post subject:
Re: Bush and Blair: Were Right |
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Scott in Florida wrote:
| Quote: | On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 15:52:31 -0000, Sleeker GT Phwoar
carl.robson@bouncing-czechs.com> wrote:
In article <deil-2E72FC.03402618112004@hermes-ge0.rdc-kc.rr.com>,
deil@mospam.com says...
They were a serious threat because our planes and GBs planes were
being shot at in the no fly zone.
And what were those planes doing in a no fly zone?
Isn't that what you are supposed to do to planes in a no fly zone?
We were enforcing the no fly zone...part of the cease fire that Saddam
agreed to.
The original war was never really over...
How the hell do we know for sure that those planes being shot at
weren't covered up Blue on blue incidents?
Because we said those planes were being shot at...
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That would be good enough if we didn't employ a commander-in-chief who's
favorite - and frequently only - fix for the weather is to shoot the
weatherman. |
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Scott in Florida
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Fri Nov 19, 2004 5:40 pm Post subject:
Re: Bush and Blair: Were Right |
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On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 04:38:54 GMT, "FanJet" <FanJet27@hotmail.com>
wrote:
| Quote: | Scott in Florida wrote:
On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 15:52:31 -0000, Sleeker GT Phwoar
carl.robson@bouncing-czechs.com> wrote:
In article <deil-2E72FC.03402618112004@hermes-ge0.rdc-kc.rr.com>,
deil@mospam.com says...
They were a serious threat because our planes and GBs planes were
being shot at in the no fly zone.
And what were those planes doing in a no fly zone?
Isn't that what you are supposed to do to planes in a no fly zone?
We were enforcing the no fly zone...part of the cease fire that Saddam
agreed to.
The original war was never really over...
How the hell do we know for sure that those planes being shot at
weren't covered up Blue on blue incidents?
Because we said those planes were being shot at...
That would be good enough if we didn't employ a commander-in-chief who's
favorite - and frequently only - fix for the weather is to shoot the
weatherman.
If that were true.... |
EVERY weatherman (and woman) that worked this summer during hurricane
season would be dead....
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Scott in Florida |
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FanJet
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Sat Nov 20, 2004 5:40 pm Post subject:
Re: Bush and Blair: Were Right |
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Scott in Florida wrote:
| Quote: | On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 04:38:54 GMT, "FanJet" <FanJet27@hotmail.com
wrote:
Scott in Florida wrote:
On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 15:52:31 -0000, Sleeker GT Phwoar
carl.robson@bouncing-czechs.com> wrote:
In article <deil-2E72FC.03402618112004@hermes-ge0.rdc-kc.rr.com>,
deil@mospam.com says...
They were a serious threat because our planes and GBs planes were
being shot at in the no fly zone.
And what were those planes doing in a no fly zone?
Isn't that what you are supposed to do to planes in a no fly zone?
We were enforcing the no fly zone...part of the cease fire that
Saddam agreed to.
The original war was never really over...
How the hell do we know for sure that those planes being shot at
weren't covered up Blue on blue incidents?
Because we said those planes were being shot at...
That would be good enough if we didn't employ a commander-in-chief
who's favorite - and frequently only - fix for the weather is to
shoot the weatherman.
If that were true....
EVERY weatherman (and woman) that worked this summer during hurricane
season would be dead....
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Yawn... it was an analogy. Except for the occasional, self-serving photoop,
these issues don't even register on his radar. |
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