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atarileaf
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 6:14 pm    Post subject: Clear coating question - help please Reply with quote

Couldn't get an answer at the hyundai newsgroup so I'll try here. Help
please:

I bought a used black 2000 Sonata just a couple weeks ago and noticed on
certain spots on the car that it looks like the clear coating is starting to
break up. Like a spider web kind of effect here and there on the car, some
small like a pinhead, some larger like the size of a quarter but its not
salt or dirt as it won't come off.

I took it to the dealer I bought it from and he said (1) its nothing to
worry about, it'll be fine. Bird poop or something he thought it was (2) its
not under warranty (which I knew) so they couldn't do anything about it.

Will this keep getting worse until the entire paint job starts to crack and
peel? Is there a way to repair the clearcoating via waxing or buffing it?
What can I do about it aside from a new paint job, which is way out of
my budget right now.

Thanks

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Peter D. Hipson
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 8:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Clear coating question - help please Reply with quote

Normal? No.
Will it get worse? Yes
Bird poop? No, but good try on their part!

Cause? Poor care, poor paint, acid rain, (and the list goes on.) If it
is not too bad, you may (*MAY*) be able to use polishing compound on
it, then rewax the entire car. A good wax (not spray on, wash on, in
the soap on, easy on, but good rub it on, rub it off) job, every three
months (or more often if possible) will help make sure this doesn't
happen.

What to do? You should have done something *before* you bought the
car! Didn't you look at it? Was the damage hidden? Best fix would be
if it was hidden (intentionally, which is unlikely) get the dealer to
repaint the car. However, I suspect you just didn't look hard enough,
and it is your problem. The car is four or five years old now, was not
expensive when new, and probably not worth repainting (a good paint
job would be several thousand dollars, a cheap paint job would look
worse than what you have now... <g>) Buff it lightly, good wax
(Mothers, for example) and realize it is not new..

On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 08:14:30 -0500, "atarileaf"
<hickorysticks@cogeco.ca> wrote:

Quote:
Couldn't get an answer at the hyundai newsgroup so I'll try here. Help
please:

I bought a used black 2000 Sonata just a couple weeks ago and noticed on
certain spots on the car that it looks like the clear coating is starting to
break up. Like a spider web kind of effect here and there on the car, some
small like a pinhead, some larger like the size of a quarter but its not
salt or dirt as it won't come off.

I took it to the dealer I bought it from and he said (1) its nothing to
worry about, it'll be fine. Bird poop or something he thought it was (2) its
not under warranty (which I knew) so they couldn't do anything about it.

Will this keep getting worse until the entire paint job starts to crack and
peel? Is there a way to repair the clearcoating via waxing or buffing it?
What can I do about it aside from a new paint job, which is way out of
my budget right now.

Thanks



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atarileaf
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 8:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Clear coating question - help please Reply with quote

I DID look at the car very carefully before and after I bought it. I noticed
this after a snowstorm and subsequent deep freeze.
I realize the car is 5 years old but I don't want peeling paint when I just
bought the car. Could sub-zero temperatures cause this?


Peter D. Hipson <phipson@deletethisword.darkstar.mv.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
Normal? No.
Will it get worse? Yes
Bird poop? No, but good try on their part!

Cause? Poor care, poor paint, acid rain, (and the list goes on.) If it
is not too bad, you may (*MAY*) be able to use polishing compound on
it, then rewax the entire car. A good wax (not spray on, wash on, in
the soap on, easy on, but good rub it on, rub it off) job, every three
months (or more often if possible) will help make sure this doesn't
happen.

What to do? You should have done something *before* you bought the
car! Didn't you look at it? Was the damage hidden? Best fix would be
if it was hidden (intentionally, which is unlikely) get the dealer to
repaint the car. However, I suspect you just didn't look hard enough,
and it is your problem. The car is four or five years old now, was not
expensive when new, and probably not worth repainting (a good paint
job would be several thousand dollars, a cheap paint job would look
worse than what you have now... <g>) Buff it lightly, good wax
(Mothers, for example) and realize it is not new..

On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 08:14:30 -0500, "atarileaf"
hickorysticks@cogeco.ca> wrote:

Couldn't get an answer at the hyundai newsgroup so I'll try here. Help
please:

I bought a used black 2000 Sonata just a couple weeks ago and noticed on
certain spots on the car that it looks like the clear coating is starting
to
break up. Like a spider web kind of effect here and there on the car,
some
small like a pinhead, some larger like the size of a quarter but its not
salt or dirt as it won't come off.

I took it to the dealer I bought it from and he said (1) its nothing to
worry about, it'll be fine. Bird poop or something he thought it was (2)
its
not under warranty (which I knew) so they couldn't do anything about it.

Will this keep getting worse until the entire paint job starts to crack
and
peel? Is there a way to repair the clearcoating via waxing or buffing it?
What can I do about it aside from a new paint job, which is way out of
my budget right now.

Thanks






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MisterSkippy
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 12:22 am    Post subject: Re: Clear coating question - help please Reply with quote

On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 10:15:28 -0500, "atarileaf"
<hickorysticks@cogeco.ca> wrote:

Quote:
I DID look at the car very carefully before and after I bought it. I noticed
this after a snowstorm and subsequent deep freeze.
I realize the car is 5 years old but I don't want peeling paint when I just
bought the car. Could sub-zero temperatures cause this?

I've seen a few Hyundais with paint problems such as yours. I doubt

you'll get much satisfaction from the dealer on a five year old used
car. Try washing the affected areas, then removing all wax with some
alcohol, then very lightly sand with a fine grit auto body sandpaper,
about 400 or 600 grit should do it. Respray the area with a couple of
thin coats of clear coat. You can buy it in spray cans. I got some
online to fix a few dings on my daughter's Mitsu. Worked great. IIRC,
I also saw it at Walmart.
Look at http://www.paintscratch.com/ for some info. They are a bit
pricey but the product was excellent and the service fast.
FWIW
YMMV
DFB




"When a legislature undertakes to proscribe the exercise of a citizen's
constitutional rights it acts lawlessly and the citizen can take matters into
his own hands and proceed on the basis that such a law is no law at all."
- Justice William O. Douglas
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atarileaf
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 12:47 am    Post subject: Re: Clear coating question - help please Reply with quote

Thank you. I'll try this.

MisterSkippy <MisterSkippy@optonline.net> wrote in message
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Quote:
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 10:15:28 -0500, "atarileaf"
hickorysticks@cogeco.ca> wrote:

I DID look at the car very carefully before and after I bought it. I
noticed
this after a snowstorm and subsequent deep freeze.
I realize the car is 5 years old but I don't want peeling paint when I
just
bought the car. Could sub-zero temperatures cause this?

I've seen a few Hyundais with paint problems such as yours. I doubt
you'll get much satisfaction from the dealer on a five year old used
car. Try washing the affected areas, then removing all wax with some
alcohol, then very lightly sand with a fine grit auto body sandpaper,
about 400 or 600 grit should do it. Respray the area with a couple of
thin coats of clear coat. You can buy it in spray cans. I got some
online to fix a few dings on my daughter's Mitsu. Worked great. IIRC,
I also saw it at Walmart.
Look at http://www.paintscratch.com/ for some info. They are a bit
pricey but the product was excellent and the service fast.
FWIW
YMMV
DFB




"When a legislature undertakes to proscribe the exercise of a citizen's
constitutional rights it acts lawlessly and the citizen can take matters
into
his own hands and proceed on the basis that such a law is no law at all."
- Justice William O. Douglas
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Peter D. Hipson
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 4:58 am    Post subject: Re: Clear coating question - help please Reply with quote

No temperature did not cause this. Typically this is sun related
damage, compounded by not enough wax. (gosh, so many people don't do a
proper wax job on their cars!)

It won't peel (at least that is my experience) but it doesn't look as
good as one would like. One possible alternative miight be to re-clear
coat the affected panels. That might be much cheaper than a full paint
job.

On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 10:15:28 -0500, "atarileaf"
<hickorysticks@cogeco.ca> wrote:

Quote:
I DID look at the car very carefully before and after I bought it. I noticed
this after a snowstorm and subsequent deep freeze.
I realize the car is 5 years old but I don't want peeling paint when I just
bought the car. Could sub-zero temperatures cause this?
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