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Art
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Tue Nov 16, 2004 5:40 pm Post subject:
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Often people have posted that we will beat the Iraqi insurgents just like we
cleaned up Germany after WWII.
Some differences:
1. The German army was beaten badly. In Iraq we dispersed the army into
the civilian population. A major error admitted by some members of the Bush
administration.
2. The German's were fighting on behalf of a leadership that was conquered
and/or dead. Many of the insurgents are fighting for religious extremism.
3. Weapons are better now on both sides. Could we have ever cleaned up
Germany if insurgents were as well equipped as Iraqi insurgents?
4. The US was only occupying a small part of Germany. I don't know the
relative troop numbers, land mass or population comparisons with Iraq. But
it is something to consider.
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Tue Nov 16, 2004 5:40 pm Post subject:
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Better do some research before you post. The Wolverines were
trained by Hitler to fight on and kill local government officials
that cooperated if Germany was overrun. They fought tooth and
nail until 1948 when the German people began to inform on who
they were to the Allies. It was the German peoples desire for
freedom, and safety to go to work in the new manufacturing plants
being build there, under the Marshal plan, that ended the
fighting and murders of civilians. It was only in the American
and English Zones of Germany and Berlin that had problems for
that long. To end it the Russians simply bombed any town into
oblivion that harbored terrorist. The French did not bomb the
town, they simply shot all the males between 18 and 45. Should
we do what the Russian and the French did?
mike hunt
Art wrote:
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Often people have posted that we will beat the Iraqi insurgents just like we
cleaned up Germany after WWII.
Some differences:
1. The German army was beaten badly. In Iraq we dispersed the army into
the civilian population. A major error admitted by some members of the Bush
administration.
2. The German's were fighting on behalf of a leadership that was conquered
and/or dead. Many of the insurgents are fighting for religious extremism.
3. Weapons are better now on both sides. Could we have ever cleaned up
Germany if insurgents were as well equipped as Iraqi insurgents?
4. The US was only occupying a small part of Germany. I don't know the
relative troop numbers, land mass or population comparisons with Iraq. But
it is something to consider. |
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Scott in Florida
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Tue Nov 16, 2004 5:40 pm Post subject:
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On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 14:48:03 GMT, "Art"
<begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Often people have posted that we will beat the Iraqi insurgents just like we
cleaned up Germany after WWII.
Some differences:
1. The German army was beaten badly. In Iraq we dispersed the army into
the civilian population. A major error admitted by some members of the Bush
administration.
2. The German's were fighting on behalf of a leadership that was conquered
and/or dead. Many of the insurgents are fighting for religious extremism.
3. Weapons are better now on both sides. Could we have ever cleaned up
Germany if insurgents were as well equipped as Iraqi insurgents?
4. The US was only occupying a small part of Germany. I don't know the
relative troop numbers, land mass or population comparisons with Iraq. But
it is something to consider.
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America will/did win both...that is all I need to know...
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Scott in Florida
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DragonRider
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Wed Nov 17, 2004 5:27 am Post subject:
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On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 11:37:17 -0500, MajorDomo@mailcity.com wrote:
| Quote: | Better do some research before you post. The Wolverines were
trained by Hitler to fight on and kill local government officials
that cooperated if Germany was overrun. They fought tooth and
nail until 1948 when the German people began to inform on who
they were to the Allies. It was the German peoples desire for
freedom, and safety to go to work in the new manufacturing plants
being build there, under the Marshal plan, that ended the
fighting and murders of civilians. It was only in the American
and English Zones of Germany and Berlin that had problems for
that long. To end it the Russians simply bombed any town into
oblivion that harbored terrorist. The French did not bomb the
town, they simply shot all the males between 18 and 45. Should
we do what the Russian and the French did?
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Why not? Heck, if there was an attorney in the room they could say we
had precident. <grin> I sitll think we need to turn about 6,000 hogs
loose in the occupied area's and see what happens.. <muahahhahaha> |
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Tacoma Dude
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Wed Nov 17, 2004 5:40 am Post subject:
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Art wrote:
| Quote: | Often people have posted that we will beat the Iraqi insurgents just like we
cleaned up Germany after WWII.
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Germany never attacked us nor did they have any WMD. Hey Art, by
chance, you a lawyer? |
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Hans
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Wed Nov 17, 2004 5:40 pm Post subject:
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| Quote: | Germany never attacked us nor did they have any WMD. Hey Art, by
chance, you a lawyer?
Hmm. Wonder what they would have called those V1 and V2 rockets and
why they had such a thriving nuclear weapons program in place. Then
again there were those chemical weapons that they used in WWI and
WWII... but nah, they didn't have any WMD's... <rofl> Then again there
were those submarines that were happily sinking ships including a few
US flagged which drew us into the fray...
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And then US were more than happy to let German military scientists work for
them developing these weapons further. |
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DragonRider
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Wed Nov 17, 2004 5:40 pm Post subject:
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On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 04:37:16 GMT, Tacoma Dude
<redstate@BushVictory.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Art wrote:
Often people have posted that we will beat the Iraqi insurgents just like we
cleaned up Germany after WWII.
Germany never attacked us nor did they have any WMD. Hey Art, by
chance, you a lawyer?
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Hmm. Wonder what they would have called those V1 and V2 rockets and
why they had such a thriving nuclear weapons program in place. Then
again there were those chemical weapons that they used in WWI and
WWII... but nah, they didn't have any WMD's... <rofl> Then again there
were those submarines that were happily sinking ships including a few
US flagged which drew us into the fray... |
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ToMh
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Wed Nov 17, 2004 10:50 pm Post subject:
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"Hans" <hans@nowhere.nowhere> wrote in message
news:QEKmd.22272$6q2.17401@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...
| Quote: | Germany never attacked us nor did they have any WMD. Hey Art, by
chance, you a lawyer?
Hmm. Wonder what they would have called those V1 and V2 rockets and
why they had such a thriving nuclear weapons program in place. Then
again there were those chemical weapons that they used in WWI and
WWII... but nah, they didn't have any WMD's... <rofl> Then again there
were those submarines that were happily sinking ships including a few
US flagged which drew us into the fray...
And then US were more than happy to let German military scientists work for
them developing these weapons further.
Would you rather they have gone to Russia? |
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Art
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Wed Nov 17, 2004 11:35 pm Post subject:
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"ToMh" <tlhumm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:301hbeF2prng2U1@uni-berlin.de...
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"Hans" <hans@nowhere.nowhere> wrote in message
news:QEKmd.22272$6q2.17401@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...
Germany never attacked us nor did they have any WMD. Hey Art, by
chance, you a lawyer?
Hmm. Wonder what they would have called those V1 and V2 rockets and
why they had such a thriving nuclear weapons program in place. Then
again there were those chemical weapons that they used in WWI and
WWII... but nah, they didn't have any WMD's... <rofl> Then again there
were those submarines that were happily sinking ships including a few
US flagged which drew us into the fray...
And then US were more than happy to let German military scientists work
for
them developing these weapons further.
Would you rather they have gone to Russia?
By the way, Bush's buddy in Russia has just announced a brand new nuclear |
weapon that will be ready in a few years. Unlike any other nuclear weapon.
Can't wait to see it. |
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Scott in Florida
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Thu Nov 18, 2004 12:27 am Post subject:
Re: OT - Comparing Iraq to WWII |
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On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 18:35:39 GMT, "Art"
<begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote:
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"ToMh" <tlhumm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:301hbeF2prng2U1@uni-berlin.de...
"Hans" <hans@nowhere.nowhere> wrote in message
news:QEKmd.22272$6q2.17401@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...
Germany never attacked us nor did they have any WMD. Hey Art, by
chance, you a lawyer?
Hmm. Wonder what they would have called those V1 and V2 rockets and
why they had such a thriving nuclear weapons program in place. Then
again there were those chemical weapons that they used in WWI and
WWII... but nah, they didn't have any WMD's... <rofl> Then again there
were those submarines that were happily sinking ships including a few
US flagged which drew us into the fray...
And then US were more than happy to let German military scientists work
for
them developing these weapons further.
Would you rather they have gone to Russia?
By the way, Bush's buddy in Russia has just announced a brand new nuclear
weapon that will be ready in a few years. Unlike any other nuclear weapon.
Can't wait to see it.
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Hell the Democrats under Clinton probably gave it to them.....
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Scott in Florida |
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Hans
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Thu Nov 18, 2004 1:15 am Post subject:
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| Quote: | By the way, Bush's buddy in Russia has just announced a brand new nuclear
weapon that will be ready in a few years. Unlike any other nuclear
weapon.
Can't wait to see it.
Hell the Democrats under Clinton probably gave it to them.....
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Most likely that Sadam did it just before the war ;-) |
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Thu Nov 18, 2004 1:25 am Post subject:
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In article <%RMmd.2087$Qh3.1278@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote:
| Quote: | "ToMh" <tlhumm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:301hbeF2prng2U1@uni-berlin.de...
"Hans" <hans@nowhere.nowhere> wrote in message
news:QEKmd.22272$6q2.17401@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...
Germany never attacked us nor did they have any WMD. Hey Art, by
chance, you a lawyer?
Hmm. Wonder what they would have called those V1 and V2 rockets and
why they had such a thriving nuclear weapons program in place. Then
again there were those chemical weapons that they used in WWI and
WWII... but nah, they didn't have any WMD's... <rofl> Then again there
were those submarines that were happily sinking ships including a few
US flagged which drew us into the fray...
And then US were more than happy to let German military scientists work
for
them developing these weapons further.
Would you rather they have gone to Russia?
By the way, Bush's buddy in Russia has just announced a brand new nuclear
weapon that will be ready in a few years. Unlike any other nuclear weapon.
Can't wait to see it.
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Yeah, stolen technology under the clintoon command. Perhaps the first
one will be targeted on you.
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Art
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Thu Nov 18, 2004 1:50 am Post subject:
Re: OT - Comparing Iraq to WWII |
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"Scott in Florida" <NotInTheNextLifetime@nope.ucan't> wrote in message
news:if9np0dmonfmri76ni22a1jgoaafgjsmln@4ax.com...
| Quote: | On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 18:35:39 GMT, "Art"
begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote:
"ToMh" <tlhumm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:301hbeF2prng2U1@uni-berlin.de...
"Hans" <hans@nowhere.nowhere> wrote in message
news:QEKmd.22272$6q2.17401@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...
Germany never attacked us nor did they have any WMD. Hey Art, by
chance, you a lawyer?
Hmm. Wonder what they would have called those V1 and V2 rockets and
why they had such a thriving nuclear weapons program in place. Then
again there were those chemical weapons that they used in WWI and
WWII... but nah, they didn't have any WMD's... <rofl> Then again
there
were those submarines that were happily sinking ships including a few
US flagged which drew us into the fray...
And then US were more than happy to let German military scientists work
for
them developing these weapons further.
Would you rather they have gone to Russia?
By the way, Bush's buddy in Russia has just announced a brand new nuclear
weapon that will be ready in a few years. Unlike any other nuclear
weapon.
Can't wait to see it.
Hell the Democrats under Clinton probably gave it to them.....
--
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As a reminder, starting with Bush's second term, he won't be able to blame
Clinton any more for his own screw ups. |
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ToMh
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Thu Nov 18, 2004 2:18 am Post subject:
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"Scott in Florida" <NotInTheNextLifetime@nope.ucan't> wrote in message
news:if9np0dmonfmri76ni22a1jgoaafgjsmln@4ax.com...
| Quote: | On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 18:35:39 GMT, "Art"
begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote:
"ToMh" <tlhumm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:301hbeF2prng2U1@uni-berlin.de...
"Hans" <hans@nowhere.nowhere> wrote in message
news:QEKmd.22272$6q2.17401@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...
Germany never attacked us nor did they have any WMD. Hey Art, by
chance, you a lawyer?
Hmm. Wonder what they would have called those V1 and V2 rockets and
why they had such a thriving nuclear weapons program in place. Then
again there were those chemical weapons that they used in WWI and
WWII... but nah, they didn't have any WMD's... <rofl> Then again there
were those submarines that were happily sinking ships including a few
US flagged which drew us into the fray...
And then US were more than happy to let German military scientists work
for
them developing these weapons further.
Would you rather they have gone to Russia?
By the way, Bush's buddy in Russia has just announced a brand new nuclear
weapon that will be ready in a few years. Unlike any other nuclear weapon.
Can't wait to see it.
Hell the Democrats under Clinton probably gave it to them.....
--
Scott in Florida
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Maybe you're thinking of the security breaches and nuclear secrets stolen
from Lawrence Livermore and Los Alamos by the Chinese during the Nixon, Carter, Reagan and Bush
years and uncovered during the Clinton administration. |
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Thu Nov 18, 2004 2:28 am Post subject:
Re: OT - Comparing Iraq to WWII |
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In article <rQOmd.2202$Qh3.980@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote:
| Quote: | "Scott in Florida" <NotInTheNextLifetime@nope.ucan't> wrote in message
news:if9np0dmonfmri76ni22a1jgoaafgjsmln@4ax.com...
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 18:35:39 GMT, "Art"
begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote:
"ToMh" <tlhumm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:301hbeF2prng2U1@uni-berlin.de...
"Hans" <hans@nowhere.nowhere> wrote in message
news:QEKmd.22272$6q2.17401@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...
Germany never attacked us nor did they have any WMD. Hey Art, by
chance, you a lawyer?
Hmm. Wonder what they would have called those V1 and V2 rockets and
why they had such a thriving nuclear weapons program in place. Then
again there were those chemical weapons that they used in WWI and
WWII... but nah, they didn't have any WMD's... <rofl> Then again
there
were those submarines that were happily sinking ships including a few
US flagged which drew us into the fray...
And then US were more than happy to let German military scientists work
for
them developing these weapons further.
Would you rather they have gone to Russia?
By the way, Bush's buddy in Russia has just announced a brand new nuclear
weapon that will be ready in a few years. Unlike any other nuclear
weapon.
Can't wait to see it.
Hell the Democrats under Clinton probably gave it to them.....
--
As a reminder, starting with Bush's second term, he won't be able to blame
Clinton any more for his own screw ups.
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Who said Bush screwed up? Clinton screwed.
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