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Thu Nov 18, 2004 5:40 am Post subject:
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If a prisoner gets his dick cut off in a sex change operation do
they need to move him to a womans prison, I wonder. ;)
mike hunt
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Yeah, but your father isn't the VP either. IMHO Cheney should get the
best possible care, he's had multiple heart attacks, and if he gets
checked out for something the rest of us might ignore then it is
better for the country. The rest of us are much more expendable,
including me. Better Cheney gets my tax dollars than the prisoners
getting free sex change operations.
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Thu Nov 18, 2004 5:40 am Post subject:
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Art wrote:
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He had a cold. My 89 year old father doesn't spend your medicare money and
secondary insurance at the hospital for a cold.
But with 4 hgeart attacks, how did he know it was a cold? Art, quit |
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Thu Nov 18, 2004 5:40 am Post subject:
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MajorDomo@mailcity.com wrote:
| Quote: | You must lead a dull life, since you appear to be such a negative
personality. You never seem to have anything positive to say
about anything. It begs the question to you, is a glass half
empty or half full?
If your father has chest pains and shortness of breath, as did
the VP, I suggest you take him for immediate medical attention at
a facility that has a heart/lung machine, not give him cough
medicine.. ;)
mike hunt
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Mike, if you think it was bad now, we have 4 more years to listen to him.
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Thu Nov 18, 2004 5:40 am Post subject:
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dizzy wrote:
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He's a scumbag.
Only to you because his party cleaned your partys clock! |
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Thu Nov 18, 2004 2:46 pm Post subject:
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In article <z8Vmd.1852$Tq6.1148@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
MDT Tech(R) <GOP_Majority@whitehouse.gov> wrote:
| Quote: | MajorDomo@mailcity.com wrote:
You must lead a dull life, since you appear to be such a negative
personality. You never seem to have anything positive to say
about anything. It begs the question to you, is a glass half
empty or half full?
If your father has chest pains and shortness of breath, as did
the VP, I suggest you take him for immediate medical attention at
a facility that has a heart/lung machine, not give him cough
medicine.. ;)
mike hunt
Mike, if you think it was bad now, we have 4 more years to listen to him.
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It's easy to correct. K-file.
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Thu Nov 18, 2004 2:52 pm Post subject:
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In article <75Vmd.1848$Tq6.1644@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
MDT Tech(R) <GOP_Majority@whitehouse.gov> wrote:
| Quote: | ToMh wrote:\
Come on Scott. Vietnam was a mistake and un-winnable.
Blaming losing that war on the Democrats is just plain silly.
It was a non-partisan screw up.
Who got us in that war, which administration was calling the shots?
Which president got us out?
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Tom has a clouded view of history.
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Thu Nov 18, 2004 5:40 pm Post subject:
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In article <leydnZx8mMIFKgHcRVn-3Q@magma.ca>,
Dan Gates <drgates@magma.ca> wrote:
| Quote: | Mark Pippin wrote:
he's had multiple heart attacks,
Hell, I thought that Cheney was unfit for office for entirely different
reasons. Looks like I was right, just mistaken!
:>)))
Dan
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Ike had a heart attack while in office. Back in those days bed rest was
the prescription. Now days they get you moving.
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Thu Nov 18, 2004 5:40 pm Post subject:
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Mark Pippin wrote:
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Hell, I thought that Cheney was unfit for office for entirely different
reasons. Looks like I was right, just mistaken!
:>)))
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Thu Nov 18, 2004 10:51 pm Post subject:
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"MDT Tech®" <GOP_Majority@whitehouse.gov> wrote in message
news:75Vmd.1848$Tq6.1644@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
| Quote: | ToMh wrote:\
Come on Scott. Vietnam was a mistake and un-winnable.
Blaming losing that war on the Democrats is just plain silly.
It was a non-partisan screw up.
Who got us in that war,
which administration was calling the shots?
Which president got us out?
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You can look this all up yourself, but here's my quick timeline
of Vietnam. I suggest you do some reading on your own.
Eisenhower proposed the "domino theory" and started sending "Advisors",
"Operatives", money and weapons to S Vietnam. The first
Americans als are killed during this time.
Kennedy pretty much continues the policy of Eisenhower.
The "Gulf of Tonkin" resolution, which was passed almost unanimously
by both the House and Senate gave the white power to wage
war with Vietnam without a declaration of war, which
Johson did. In Johnson's 2nd
term he ran on a platform of de-escalating the war in contrast to
the Republicans stance of escalating the war. Despite his
stance on de-escalating the war, troop levels reach 200,000.
Nixon Escalated the War with a policy of " Bombing them back
to the stone ages" which included covert bombing operations of Cambodia
without the knowledge of Congress and despite Cambodia as
being officially recognized as neutral.
After 2 or 3 years Nixon begins to reduce the troop count and proposes
turning the war over to the S. Vietnamese. Nixon and Kissenger
know that they can not win but do not want to be the president
that loses the war, so while reducing troops, he increases bombing.
Finally after years of unraveling support by the American public, fueled
further by the My Lai massacre and the killing of students at Kent State,
Nixon finally comes up with an exit strategy. Nixon signs a "Peace agreement"
with Le Duc Tho and claims "Peace with Honor"
Nixon then ends the draft and pulls troops out of Vietnam. Within
two year North Vietnam takes over Saigon and all of Vietnam |
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Fri Nov 19, 2004 12:49 am Post subject:
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In article <3045p2F2qu5kbU1@uni-berlin.de>, "ToMh" <tlhumm@hotmail.com>
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| Quote: | "MDT Tech®" <GOP_Majority@whitehouse.gov> wrote in message
news:75Vmd.1848$Tq6.1644@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
ToMh wrote:\
Come on Scott. Vietnam was a mistake and un-winnable.
Blaming losing that war on the Democrats is just plain silly.
It was a non-partisan screw up.
Who got us in that war,
which administration was calling the shots?
Which president got us out?
You can look this all up yourself, but here's my quick timeline
of Vietnam. I suggest you do some reading on your own.
Eisenhower proposed the "domino theory" and started sending "Advisors",
"Operatives", money and weapons to S Vietnam. The first
Americans als are killed during this time.
Kennedy pretty much continues the policy of Eisenhower.
The "Gulf of Tonkin" resolution, which was passed almost unanimously
by both the House and Senate gave the white power to wage
war with Vietnam without a declaration of war, which
Johson did. In Johnson's 2nd
term he ran on a platform of de-escalating the war in contrast to
the Republicans stance of escalating the war. Despite his
stance on de-escalating the war, troop levels reach 200,000.
Nixon Escalated the War with a policy of " Bombing them back
to the stone ages" which included covert bombing operations of Cambodia
without the knowledge of Congress and despite Cambodia as
being officially recognized as neutral.
After 2 or 3 years Nixon begins to reduce the troop count and proposes
turning the war over to the S. Vietnamese. Nixon and Kissenger
know that they can not win but do not want to be the president
that loses the war, so while reducing troops, he increases bombing.
Finally after years of unraveling support by the American public, fueled
further by the My Lai massacre and the killing of students at Kent State,
Nixon finally comes up with an exit strategy. Nixon signs a "Peace agreement"
with Le Duc Tho and claims "Peace with Honor"
Nixon then ends the draft and pulls troops out of Vietnam. Within
two year North Vietnam takes over Saigon and all of Vietnam
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Tom,
Your oversimplification of the Vietnam war is illuminating your lack of
knowledge of this subject. Go here and read up on it:
http://www.pbs.org/battlefieldvietnam/timeline/index.html
There are a number of other sites available to you. I was there and
don't really care to relive the Vietnam war again, but for your sake and
others who are interested, at least give some accuracy and depth to your
comments.
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Fri Nov 19, 2004 2:28 am Post subject:
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If Eisenhower had listened to then Secretary of State John Foster
Dulles, we would have dropped a nuke on Hanoi, as a favor to
France, and that would have been the end of that 'domino.' ;)
mike hunt
ToMh wrote:
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"MDT Tech®" <GOP_Majority@whitehouse.gov> wrote in message
news:75Vmd.1848$Tq6.1644@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
ToMh wrote:\
Come on Scott. Vietnam was a mistake and un-winnable.
Blaming losing that war on the Democrats is just plain silly.
It was a non-partisan screw up.
Who got us in that war,
which administration was calling the shots?
Which president got us out?
You can look this all up yourself, but here's my quick timeline
of Vietnam. I suggest you do some reading on your own.
Eisenhower proposed the "domino theory" and started sending "Advisors",
"Operatives", money and weapons to S Vietnam. The first
Americans als are killed during this time.
Kennedy pretty much continues the policy of Eisenhower.
The "Gulf of Tonkin" resolution, which was passed almost unanimously
by both the House and Senate gave the white power to wage
war with Vietnam without a declaration of war, which
Johson did. In Johnson's 2nd
term he ran on a platform of de-escalating the war in contrast to
the Republicans stance of escalating the war. Despite his
stance on de-escalating the war, troop levels reach 200,000.
Nixon Escalated the War with a policy of " Bombing them back
to the stone ages" which included covert bombing operations of Cambodia
without the knowledge of Congress and despite Cambodia as
being officially recognized as neutral.
After 2 or 3 years Nixon begins to reduce the troop count and proposes
turning the war over to the S. Vietnamese. Nixon and Kissenger
know that they can not win but do not want to be the president
that loses the war, so while reducing troops, he increases bombing.
Finally after years of unraveling support by the American public, fueled
further by the My Lai massacre and the killing of students at Kent State,
Nixon finally comes up with an exit strategy. Nixon signs a "Peace agreement"
with Le Duc Tho and claims "Peace with Honor"
Nixon then ends the draft and pulls troops out of Vietnam. Within
two year North Vietnam takes over Saigon and all of Vietnam |
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Fri Nov 19, 2004 2:37 am Post subject:
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<deil@mospam.com> wrote in message news:deil-290C55.13495918112004@hermes-ge0.rdc-kc.rr.com...
| Quote: | In article <3045p2F2qu5kbU1@uni-berlin.de>, "ToMh" <tlhumm@hotmail.com
wrote:
"MDT Tech®" <GOP_Majority@whitehouse.gov> wrote in message
news:75Vmd.1848$Tq6.1644@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
ToMh wrote:\
Come on Scott. Vietnam was a mistake and un-winnable.
Blaming losing that war on the Democrats is just plain silly.
It was a non-partisan screw up.
Who got us in that war,
which administration was calling the shots?
Which president got us out?
You can look this all up yourself, but here's my quick timeline
of Vietnam. I suggest you do some reading on your own.
Eisenhower proposed the "domino theory" and started sending "Advisors",
"Operatives", money and weapons to S Vietnam. The first
Americans als are killed during this time.
Kennedy pretty much continues the policy of Eisenhower.
The "Gulf of Tonkin" resolution, which was passed almost unanimously
by both the House and Senate gave the white power to wage
war with Vietnam without a declaration of war, which
Johson did. In Johnson's 2nd
term he ran on a platform of de-escalating the war in contrast to
the Republicans stance of escalating the war. Despite his
stance on de-escalating the war, troop levels reach 200,000.
Nixon Escalated the War with a policy of " Bombing them back
to the stone ages" which included covert bombing operations of Cambodia
without the knowledge of Congress and despite Cambodia as
being officially recognized as neutral.
After 2 or 3 years Nixon begins to reduce the troop count and proposes
turning the war over to the S. Vietnamese. Nixon and Kissenger
know that they can not win but do not want to be the president
that loses the war, so while reducing troops, he increases bombing.
Finally after years of unraveling support by the American public, fueled
further by the My Lai massacre and the killing of students at Kent State,
Nixon finally comes up with an exit strategy. Nixon signs a "Peace agreement"
with Le Duc Tho and claims "Peace with Honor"
Nixon then ends the draft and pulls troops out of Vietnam. Within
two year North Vietnam takes over Saigon and all of Vietnam
Tom,
Your oversimplification of the Vietnam war is illuminating your lack of
knowledge of this subject. Go here and read up on it:
http://www.pbs.org/battlefieldvietnam/timeline/index.html
There are a number of other sites available to you. I was there and
don't really care to relive the Vietnam war again, but for your sake and
others who are interested, at least give some accuracy and depth to your
comments.
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Offen Rong
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Fri Nov 19, 2004 2:45 am Post subject:
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<deil@mospam.com> wrote in message
news:deil-290C55.13495918112004@hermes-ge0.rdc-kc.rr.com...
| Quote: | In article <3045p2F2qu5kbU1@uni-berlin.de>, "ToMh" <tlhumm@hotmail.com
wrote:
"MDT Tech®" <GOP_Majority@whitehouse.gov> wrote in message
news:75Vmd.1848$Tq6.1644@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
ToMh wrote:\
Come on Scott. Vietnam was a mistake and un-winnable.
Blaming losing that war on the Democrats is just plain silly.
It was a non-partisan screw up.
Who got us in that war,
which administration was calling the shots?
Which president got us out?
You can look this all up yourself, but here's my quick timeline
of Vietnam. I suggest you do some reading on your own.
Eisenhower proposed the "domino theory" and started sending "Advisors",
"Operatives", money and weapons to S Vietnam. The first
Americans als are killed during this time.
Kennedy pretty much continues the policy of Eisenhower.
The "Gulf of Tonkin" resolution, which was passed almost unanimously
by both the House and Senate gave the white power to wage
war with Vietnam without a declaration of war, which
Johson did. In Johnson's 2nd
term he ran on a platform of de-escalating the war in contrast to
the Republicans stance of escalating the war. Despite his
stance on de-escalating the war, troop levels reach 200,000.
Nixon Escalated the War with a policy of " Bombing them back
to the stone ages" which included covert bombing operations of Cambodia
without the knowledge of Congress and despite Cambodia as
being officially recognized as neutral.
After 2 or 3 years Nixon begins to reduce the troop count and proposes
turning the war over to the S. Vietnamese. Nixon and Kissenger
know that they can not win but do not want to be the president
that loses the war, so while reducing troops, he increases bombing.
Finally after years of unraveling support by the American public, fueled
further by the My Lai massacre and the killing of students at Kent
State,
Nixon finally comes up with an exit strategy. Nixon signs a "Peace
agreement"
with Le Duc Tho and claims "Peace with Honor"
Nixon then ends the draft and pulls troops out of Vietnam. Within
two year North Vietnam takes over Saigon and all of Vietnam
Tom,
Your oversimplification of the Vietnam war is illuminating your lack of
knowledge of this subject. Go here and read up on it:
http://www.pbs.org/battlefieldvietnam/timeline/index.html
There are a number of other sites available to you. I was there and
don't really care to relive the Vietnam war again, but for your sake and
others who are interested, at least give some accuracy and depth to your
comments.
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I believe that timeline leaves out some important information. The US under
President Eisenhower furnished the French with airplanes, taught them to
fly, and I believe we dropped some supplies onto Dien Bien Phu for the
French forces. Involvement extended clear back to President Truman. See
http://www.afa.org/magazine/aug2004/0804dien.asp
And by the way, I have gone to hospitals with chest pains as VP Cheney
did, and it turned out to be a bad case of reflux. |
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Fri Nov 19, 2004 3:31 am Post subject:
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<DustyRhoades@mailcity.com> wrote in message news:419D1416.A97895B5@mailcity.com...
| Quote: | If Eisenhower had listened to then Secretary of State John Foster
Dulles, we would have dropped a nuke on Hanoi, as a favor to
France, and that would have been the end of that 'domino.' ;)
mike hunt
Everybody knows of Goldwater's statement of nuking |
Vietnam, but Nixon was also proposing this, behind closed doors,
but Kissenger talked him out of it and of course the Domino theory
never did materialize. Thank God fascist kooks like Goldwater and
Nixon were never elected or had some sane people advising them.
It's also common knowledge that Nixon was clinically insane by
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Fri Nov 19, 2004 4:03 am Post subject:
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In article <304m67F2reb9tU1@uni-berlin.de>, "ToMh" <tlhumm@hotmail.com>
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| Quote: | DustyRhoades@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:419D1416.A97895B5@mailcity.com...
If Eisenhower had listened to then Secretary of State John Foster
Dulles, we would have dropped a nuke on Hanoi, as a favor to
France, and that would have been the end of that 'domino.' ;)
mike hunt
Everybody knows of Goldwater's statement of nuking
Vietnam, but Nixon was also proposing this, behind closed doors,
but Kissenger talked him out of it and of course the Domino theory
never did materialize. Thank God fascist kooks like Goldwater and
Nixon were never elected or had some sane people advising them.
It's also common knowledge that Nixon was clinically insane by
the time he left office.
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Tom,
Are you crazy? I'm serious when I ask.
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