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"C. E. White" <cewhite3@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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[Art]

"Eric Dreher" <ericd@cox.nét> wrote in message
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[Art]

I thought it was a pretty pathetic article too. If Ford gets its normal
reliability issues put to bed the 500 should be a winner. Looks like a lot
of car for the money.



"C. E. White" <cewhite3@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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[ma_twain]

Highway miles are easy on a vehicle. Could it be the Fords in fleet
service put alot of highway miles? Could it also be that the drivers of
the fleet vehicles are taught good driving habits that prolong the life
of their vehicle? I suspect a fleet driver that abuses his vehicle
will be having discussions with the manager/foreman. Don't these fleet
vehicle also have "data recorders" so you can see what the driver is
doing to the engine/transmission? This would further encourage good
driving habits.

MajorDomo@mailcity.com wrote:

[Eric Dreher]

On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 09:52:35 -0500, "C. E. White"
<cewhite3@mindspring.com> wrote:

[Guest]

Toyota makes good vehicles just like every manufacture. Toyota,
just like every other manufacture makes some that are not up to
snuff and Toyota, just like every other manufacture, sells to
people that do not properly maintain their vehicles. I have to
agree on the too expensive part. After three cars I stopped
buying Lexus' in 1999 because, for one the dealers take you for
granted, and secondly the cars simply became way too much money
compared to the competition. I have now owned three luxury cars
of another brand that proved to be just and good and just as
reliable. The difference is the new brand costs so much less I
was able to buy a second car from the same manufacture when i
switched brands


mike hunt




"C. E. White" wrote:

[Guest]

Some fleet cars never see highway speeds. Some like courier cars
never get shut off except to be serviced. The folks that drive
corporate and government fleet vehicles are a cross section of
all drivers, same as in private use vehicles. Corporate fleet
cars, that must be kept in service for five years because of
federal tax depreciation laws, generally get much better
preventive maintenance then does the average private vehicle
however. As to the drivers actions, do you drive a rental car
like it was your car? ;)


mike hunt



ma_twain wrote:

[Guest]

That is true, but not until the fall when the 2006 Milan and
Zephyr are introduced. THEN it will be an option on the SES and
standard on the Premium but not before then as he is suggesting.
The 500 with the six speed automatic and the CVT actually
outperforms several other V6 cars in its class like the Avalon
and the Chrysler 300 3.5 V6, and gets better fuel mileage in the
process.


mike hunt



Art wrote:

[Guest]

The re-motering, as you call it, actually took place BEFORE the
500 even came to market. Auto manufactures make plans like that
years before the car is even committed to production. The new
3.5 V6 will be introduced in several new 2006 models and made
available as an option on the 500.

(I guess when I hit send, my automatic spell checker prefers
Dresser)


mike hunt



Eric Dresser wrote:

[ma_twain]

BenDover@mailcity.com wrote:

[C. E. White]

Eric Dreher wrote:

[dizzy]

On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 21:26:45 -0500, some stupid top-posting,
nym-shifting troll, currently calling himself BenDover wrote:

[Guest]

In article <lagqp01jle2ebpo7j1hnp0g3ej0lghqmu1@4ax.com>,
dizzy <dizzy@nospam.invalid> wrote:

[Guest]

My spell checker is more modern than that, it works automatically
when I hit send. It apparently choose Dresser because that it is
company we deal with. If you have a problem with that don't read
my posts, WBMA You may spend your life in the NG's, but I don't
spend enough time in the NG's to worry about the minor stuff.
How come you signed your name at the start of your post this
time? Is that because might forget top sign?


mike hunt




dizzy wrote:

[Art]

I was reading the new Consumer Reports Buying guy and happened to find a
clear example of editorial prejudice. In the quick review of the Cadillac
CTS they state that it has a relatively poor reliability record for its
class. But the reliability is average. And most BMW's have much worse
records yet CR does not make a similar comment under those cars. OBvious
prejudice, it seems to me.


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