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Scott in Florida
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Mon Nov 15, 2004 4:55 am Post subject:
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On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 16:37:06 GMT, bb <blackies@work.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 04:55:53 GMT, HachiRoku <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote:
Do what I do: talk to servicemen, either in person or on-line. They will
gladly tell you how much over 70% of the Iraqi people love what they're
doing. Soory, can't post a link for that; you'll just have to find some
for yourself. Talking to people is really great, you know. You get all
kinds of insight that sitting in front of a terminal just doesn't give you.
Unfortunately, when you talk to people, there just aren't any links. But
hey, there are planty of servicepeople out there who will *gladly* share
their experiences with you, unless you call them liars or say they make
false claims. I don't *need* to lie, 'cause I know what I know right from
the horse's mouth.
I suggest you have the discussion of False Claims with the original poster
who saw fit to interject his little commentary in the original post. So
much SPIN, I'm dizzy...
The original poster made a claim that can't be supported. It's easy
to claim thing you want to believe, but a little harder to provide
some objective proof of said claim.
I can appreciate you taking the time to talk to soldiers who have
been, or are there. But, getting the opinion of a soldier is in no
way unbiased, or scientific. If the origianal poster had said he's
talked to soldiers that were there and they claim the majority are
happy with what's happening, fine.
bb
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Well I talked to my son who was in Baghdad for three months with the
Air Force and he relayed the same thing. The Iraqis he had contact
with were very happy America came and kicked Saddam out...
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Scott in Florida
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Scott in Florida
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Mon Nov 15, 2004 4:56 am Post subject:
Re: US soldier shoots bengal tiger in baghdad zoo. |
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On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 11:49:57 -0500, ma_twain <ma_twain@yahoo.com>
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| Quote: | Hey joe - have you been keeping up with the news for the last 2 years?
"KP" duty has been outsourced to a contractor. I suspect any "KP" duty
performed by active duty military would be contract administration -
yeah - that would really be a punishment - a desk job where no one is
shooting at you.
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Hey there are 'desk' jobs in the war zone. It ain't always safe to
run a typewriter...
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joe~V~3838 wrote:
well, that soldier should have his gun taken away and put
on permanent kp duty until he can get out of army..
what a shame, as those tigers are almost extinct...
he should have know better.....
"Ken Hammer" <papagorilla@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:yheld.207655$nl.30156@pd7tw3no...
US soldier shoots Bengal tiger in Baghdad zoo
11/11/2004 10:36
Drunken party leads to slaughter of rare animal
After the acts of torture, of rape, of abuse of power, of war crimes, of
mass murder, the fact that a rare tiger is shot in its cage in Baghdad
zoo comes as no surprise.
Yet another horrific incident in the nightmare called George Bush's
personal war against anything that moves, or is a civilian
infra-structure, in Iraq. This time it is not a hospital, nor a school,
nor a cluster bomb dropped near a residential area, nor an artillery
shell lobbed into the middle of a happy family gathering, nor a Mosque.
It is Baghdad zoo.
The "insurgent" in this case was a defenseless Bengal Tiger, locked up
in its cage, shot dead by a drunken American soldier. What fun. What a
brave soldier.
In an event similar to that made famous by the great American heroine,
Lynndie England, a group of drunken American soldiers entered Baghdad
zoo last Thursday night, according to a report released by AFP.
Adel Salman Musa told this agency that one of the group entered the
tiger's cage and started teasing it, whereby the animal attacked him,
injuring his hand and arm. One of the other soldiers opened fire on the
animal, killing it.
The Bengal Tiger is an endangered species, numbering between 3.000 and
4.500 in the wild. How it is possible that the US Armed Forces continue
to run riot in such shocking acts of cruelty, after what happened at Abu
Ghraib and elsewhere, defies logic.
Under international law, Washington is liable, accountable and
responsible for the actions of this rabble and those in command have to
pay reparations for any illegal acts committed. The slaughtering of a
tiger, when compared to the long list of war crimes already perpetrated,
is just one more incident to add to the epitaph of the Bush regime.
After six-year-old children have their limbs blasted off them for being
"insurgents", now a defenseless animal in a cage is shot. For being a
terrorist?
Freedom and democracy, winning hearts and minds by slaughtering children
and civilians, raping women, torturing prisoners and now, massacring an
animal of a species in danger of extinction locked up in a cage without
any hope to protect itself.
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Mon Nov 15, 2004 5:36 am Post subject:
Re: US soldier shoots bengal tiger in baghdad zoo. |
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In article <turfp0tuhcnqbdnftf5d4omri5nq02hlqo@4ax.com>,
Scott in Florida <NotInTheNextLifetime@nope.ucan't> wrote:
| Quote: | On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 16:37:06 GMT, bb <blackies@work.com> wrote:
On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 04:55:53 GMT, HachiRoku <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote:
Do what I do: talk to servicemen, either in person or on-line. They will
gladly tell you how much over 70% of the Iraqi people love what they're
doing. Soory, can't post a link for that; you'll just have to find some
for yourself. Talking to people is really great, you know. You get all
kinds of insight that sitting in front of a terminal just doesn't give you.
Unfortunately, when you talk to people, there just aren't any links. But
hey, there are planty of servicepeople out there who will *gladly* share
their experiences with you, unless you call them liars or say they make
false claims. I don't *need* to lie, 'cause I know what I know right from
the horse's mouth.
I suggest you have the discussion of False Claims with the original poster
who saw fit to interject his little commentary in the original post. So
much SPIN, I'm dizzy...
The original poster made a claim that can't be supported. It's easy
to claim thing you want to believe, but a little harder to provide
some objective proof of said claim.
I can appreciate you taking the time to talk to soldiers who have
been, or are there. But, getting the opinion of a soldier is in no
way unbiased, or scientific. If the origianal poster had said he's
talked to soldiers that were there and they claim the majority are
happy with what's happening, fine.
bb
Well I talked to my son who was in Baghdad for three months with the
Air Force and he relayed the same thing. The Iraqis he had contact
with were very happy America came and kicked Saddam out...
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Scott in Florida
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Looks like the Marines, Army and A.F. have kicked ass again.
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bb
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Mon Nov 15, 2004 5:40 am Post subject:
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On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 23:55:07 GMT, Scott in Florida
<NotInTheNextLifetime@nope.ucan't> wrote:
| Quote: | Well I talked to my son who was in Baghdad for three months with the
Air Force and he relayed the same thing.
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Three months? Sounds like Kerry's second tour in Viet Nam.
| Quote: | The Iraqis he had contact
with were very happy America came and kicked Saddam out...
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Bully for them. But, on a scientific level, meaningless.
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bb
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Mon Nov 15, 2004 5:40 am Post subject:
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On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 18:36:53 -0600, <diei@nospam.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Looks like the Marines, Army and A.F. have kicked ass again.
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Yeah, just like Viet Nam. It's not that the military can't do their
jobs, it's the dipsticks back in Washington that don't do theirs.
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Scott in Florida
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Mon Nov 15, 2004 5:41 am Post subject:
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On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 01:58:30 GMT, bb <blackies@home.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 23:55:07 GMT, Scott in Florida
NotInTheNextLifetime@nope.ucan't> wrote:
Well I talked to my son who was in Baghdad for three months with the
Air Force and he relayed the same thing.
Three months? Sounds like Kerry's second tour in Viet Nam.
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Yes...that is how the Air Force does it...
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The Iraqis he had contact
with were very happy America came and kicked Saddam out...
Bully for them. But, on a scientific level, meaningless.
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On a REAL level...it is very meaningful.
If you are really interested...go down and join the Armed Forces and
go do a scientific study...
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Scott in Florida
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Mon Nov 15, 2004 5:41 am Post subject:
Re: US soldier shoots bengal tiger in baghdad zoo. |
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On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 19:54:02 -0500, ma_twain <ma_twain@yahoo.com>
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| Quote: | Scott in Florida wrote:
On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 11:49:57 -0500, ma_twain <ma_twain@yahoo.com
wrote:
Hey joe - have you been keeping up with the news for the last 2 years?
"KP" duty has been outsourced to a contractor. I suspect any "KP" duty
performed by active duty military would be contract administration -
yeah - that would really be a punishment - a desk job where no one is
shooting at you.
Hey there are 'desk' jobs in the war zone. It ain't always safe to
run a typewriter...
Snip
Scott in Florida
Scott - You are dating yourself. When was the last time your saw a
typewriter being used? I have a manual Olympia and an electric model
somewhere in the basement. I am not sure if you can get ribbons any
more. I should take one to work and set it up on someone's desk as a
joke, along with a rotary dial phone :-)
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Well I am an old fart...LOL
Even the service's use computers now...
You are correct...
Radar from MASH would be out of place (but still funny) in today's
armed forces...
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ma_twain
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Mon Nov 15, 2004 5:41 am Post subject:
Re: US soldier shoots bengal tiger in baghdad zoo. |
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Scott in Florida wrote:
| Quote: | On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 11:49:57 -0500, ma_twain <ma_twain@yahoo.com
wrote:
Hey joe - have you been keeping up with the news for the last 2 years?
"KP" duty has been outsourced to a contractor. I suspect any "KP" duty
performed by active duty military would be contract administration -
yeah - that would really be a punishment - a desk job where no one is
shooting at you.
Hey there are 'desk' jobs in the war zone. It ain't always safe to
run a typewriter...
Snip
Scott in Florida
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Scott - You are dating yourself. When was the last time your saw a
typewriter being used? I have a manual Olympia and an electric model
somewhere in the basement. I am not sure if you can get ribbons any
more. I should take one to work and set it up on someone's desk as a
joke, along with a rotary dial phone :-) |
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joe~V~3838
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Mon Nov 15, 2004 5:40 pm Post subject:
Re: US soldier shoots bengal tiger in baghdad zoo. |
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ha ha, hey Ma_twain, yeah, sadly but true about the outsourcing
of many jobs, including military..Still they should take his rifle
from him.....
"ma_twain" <ma_twain@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:41978CB5.1030901@yahoo.com...
| Quote: | Hey joe - have you been keeping up with the news for the last 2 years?
"KP" duty has been outsourced to a contractor. I suspect any "KP" duty
performed by active duty military would be contract administration -
yeah - that would really be a punishment - a desk job where no one is
shooting at you.
joe~V~3838 wrote:
well, that soldier should have his gun taken away and put
on permanent kp duty until he can get out of army..
what a shame, as those tigers are almost extinct...
he should have know better.....
"Ken Hammer" <papagorilla@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:yheld.207655$nl.30156@pd7tw3no...
US soldier shoots Bengal tiger in Baghdad zoo
11/11/2004 10:36
Drunken party leads to slaughter of rare animal
After the acts of torture, of rape, of abuse of power, of war crimes, of
mass murder, the fact that a rare tiger is shot in its cage in Baghdad
zoo comes as no surprise.
Yet another horrific incident in the nightmare called George Bush's
personal war against anything that moves, or is a civilian
infra-structure, in Iraq. This time it is not a hospital, nor a school,
nor a cluster bomb dropped near a residential area, nor an artillery
shell lobbed into the middle of a happy family gathering, nor a Mosque.
It is Baghdad zoo.
The "insurgent" in this case was a defenseless Bengal Tiger, locked up
in its cage, shot dead by a drunken American soldier. What fun. What a
brave soldier.
In an event similar to that made famous by the great American heroine,
Lynndie England, a group of drunken American soldiers entered Baghdad
zoo last Thursday night, according to a report released by AFP.
Adel Salman Musa told this agency that one of the group entered the
tiger's cage and started teasing it, whereby the animal attacked him,
injuring his hand and arm. One of the other soldiers opened fire on the
animal, killing it.
The Bengal Tiger is an endangered species, numbering between 3.000 and
4.500 in the wild. How it is possible that the US Armed Forces continue
to run riot in such shocking acts of cruelty, after what happened at Abu
Ghraib and elsewhere, defies logic.
Under international law, Washington is liable, accountable and
responsible for the actions of this rabble and those in command have to
pay reparations for any illegal acts committed. The slaughtering of a
tiger, when compared to the long list of war crimes already perpetrated,
is just one more incident to add to the epitaph of the Bush regime.
After six-year-old children have their limbs blasted off them for being
"insurgents", now a defenseless animal in a cage is shot. For being a
terrorist?
Freedom and democracy, winning hearts and minds by slaughtering children
and civilians, raping women, torturing prisoners and now, massacring an
animal of a species in danger of extinction locked up in a cage without
any hope to protect itself.
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HachiRoku
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Tue Nov 16, 2004 5:40 am Post subject:
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On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 01:56:47 +0000, bb wrote:
| Quote: | On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 18:36:53 -0600, <diei@nospam.com> wrote:
Looks like the Marines, Army and A.F. have kicked ass again.
Yeah, just like Viet Nam. It's not that the military can't do their
jobs, it's the dipsticks back in Washington that don't do theirs.
bb
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Well, bb, I think I can agre with you on this one, at least partially (it
may not show (yeah, right) but I'm a conservative...) |
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