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Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 3:43 pm    Post subject: Another year of losing market share - where to now? Reply with quote

2004 was supposed to be a good year, with record # of new vehicle
introductions, GM brass was reported to be wearing pins saying '29' on
their shirts for the amount of market share they would be up to by the
end of 2004.

Yet now its clear that once again GM lost market share, even with the
biggest incentives on the planet. Another percentage point of market
share was again lost to the big Japanese companies.

By next year, GM will no longer even be the biggest automobile company
in the world, Toyota will be. When asked about this, the CEO of GM had
only this to say, "It wouldn't surprise me". Great fighting words,
already conceding that Toyota will overtake you within a year to be the
worlds largest auto company.

I guess people do care more about quality. Listen up UAW memebers,
you've killed yourselves and your next generations jobs by being so
lazy and pathetic with your demands.

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Al Bundy
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Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 6:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Another year of losing market share - where to now? Reply with quote

mark575757@mailcity.com wrote:
Quote:
2004 was supposed to be a good year, with record # of new vehicle
introductions, GM brass was reported to be wearing pins saying '29'
on
their shirts for the amount of market share they would be up to by
the
end of 2004.

Yet now its clear that once again GM lost market share, even with the
biggest incentives on the planet. Another percentage point of market
share was again lost to the big Japanese companies.

By next year, GM will no longer even be the biggest automobile
company
in the world, Toyota will be. When asked about this, the CEO of GM
had
only this to say, "It wouldn't surprise me". Great fighting words,
already conceding that Toyota will overtake you within a year to be
the
worlds largest auto company.

I guess people do care more about quality. Listen up UAW memebers,
you've killed yourselves and your next generations jobs by being so
lazy and pathetic with your demands.

I drive by the local Chevy dealer every day. They had those SSR's lined
up along the side road. The exact same ones are there today as were
there at the beginning of the year. I don't see the market for them.
There's no functionality and low gas mileage. But I understand that's a
nitch market and not the GM core as they say. When my friend wanted a
Blazer almost no dealer around had 4dr models. They just were not
producing enough I guess. GM kept blasting out those 2drs and putting
on incentives. And now my friend wants to buy a new Chevy and the
salesman won't even return a call. Maybe he's too busy cleaning the
snow off the SSR's.
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Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 9:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Another year of losing market share - where to now? Reply with quote

<mark575757@mailcity.com> wrote in message
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2004 was supposed to be a good year, with record # of new vehicle
introductions, GM brass was reported to be wearing pins saying '29' on
their shirts for the amount of market share they would be up to by the
end of 2004.

Yet now its clear that once again GM lost market share, even with the
biggest incentives on the planet. Another percentage point of market
share was again lost to the big Japanese companies.

By next year, GM will no longer even be the biggest automobile company
in the world, Toyota will be. When asked about this, the CEO of GM had
only this to say, "It wouldn't surprise me". Great fighting words,
already conceding that Toyota will overtake you within a year to be the
worlds largest auto company.

I guess people do care more about quality. Listen up UAW memebers,
you've killed yourselves and your next generations jobs by being so
lazy and pathetic with your demands.

Sad but true. Many US made vehicles have problems that are designed in,
but there are also many quality issues that are due to poor assembly too.
The fit of the doors on my 2000 Astro van is marginal. I can't even adjust
them as the damn hinges are welded on.
All built by some guy making about $30 an hour. Then you have the poor guys
in dealerships trying to fix these things the factory puts out and they make
about
half that.
I have worked in dealer body shops for Ford and Chevy, and known mechanics
working on the other side of the shop, and it is just sad to see some of the
crap the
factories send out for sale. There are guys working in them that should
quit.

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Hairy
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Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 11:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Another year of losing market share - where to now? Reply with quote

"Scott" <homealone.com> wrote in message
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mark575757@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:1105267424.093770.74170@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
2004 was supposed to be a good year, with record # of new vehicle
introductions, GM brass was reported to be wearing pins saying '29' on
their shirts for the amount of market share they would be up to by the
end of 2004.

Yet now its clear that once again GM lost market share, even with the
biggest incentives on the planet. Another percentage point of market
share was again lost to the big Japanese companies.

By next year, GM will no longer even be the biggest automobile company
in the world, Toyota will be. When asked about this, the CEO of GM had
only this to say, "It wouldn't surprise me". Great fighting words,
already conceding that Toyota will overtake you within a year to be the
worlds largest auto company.

I guess people do care more about quality. Listen up UAW memebers,
you've killed yourselves and your next generations jobs by being so
lazy and pathetic with your demands.

Sad but true. Many US made vehicles have problems that are designed in,
but there are also many quality issues that are due to poor assembly too.
The fit of the doors on my 2000 Astro van is marginal. I can't even
adjust
them as the damn hinges are welded on.

And that's the assembler's fault?? Seems like another design issue, to me.

Quote:
All built by some guy making about $30 an hour. Then you have the poor
guys
in dealerships trying to fix these things the factory puts out and they
make
about
half that.
I have worked in dealer body shops for Ford and Chevy, and known mechanics
working on the other side of the shop, and it is just sad to see some of
the
crap the
factories send out for sale. There are guys working in them that should
quit.


It's true that there are always a few that need to be weeded out, but the
vast majority do a great job with the parts they are given and the time
limits imposed on them. The UAW gets a lot of blame that belongs elsewhere.
H
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Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 3:43 am    Post subject: Re: Another year of losing market share - where to now? Reply with quote

On 9 Jan 2005 02:43:44 -0800, mark575757@mailcity.com wrote:


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I guess people do care more about quality. Listen up UAW memebers,
you've killed yourselves and your next generations jobs by being so
lazy and pathetic with your demands.

You're right. Management, engineers, and designers had nothing to do
with it. It's all the fault of the folks on the line.


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