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Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 6:25 am    Post subject: 911SC shifter issue Reply with quote

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Hey all;

I took my '78 SC out for a drive over the weekend. First and second
gear worked fine, but when I shifted to third, I - for lack of a better
term - couldn't find it. Eventually, it went in, but when I tried to
downshift to second, I couldn't find that.

Pulling over, I played with the gearbox a bit. I can shift "vertically"
fine (i.e., 1st to 2nd, 3rd to 4th, etc.). But when I try to shift
"horizontally" (i.e. 2nd to 3rd, 3rd to 1st) it seems like something
isn't catching. I can eventually make the shift if I wiggle it enough,
but it's not right. Additionally, the shifter seems to have way too
much horizontal play, even when in gear.

I haven't had a chance to pull the shifter housing yet to see if I can
see anything, but I thought I'd ask if anyone has any ideas.

Thanks!

Cheers...Craig
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Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 3:07 am    Post subject: Re: 911SC shifter issue Reply with quote

Check the shifter bushings, remove small panel top of the center hump just
in front of rear seat. Bushings are likely shot.
Pelican parts is a good source.
Below is from online catalog.
Shifter Bushing Kit, 912E, 911 (1974-86), 911 Turbo (1976-88)
PEL-BUSHKIT1 $26.95


"CJS" <BIG@MEANIE.COM> wrote in message news:416B40A2.DCF4A028@MEANIE.COM...
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Hey all;

I took my '78 SC out for a drive over the weekend. First and second
gear worked fine, but when I shifted to third, I - for lack of a better
term - couldn't find it. Eventually, it went in, but when I tried to
downshift to second, I couldn't find that.

Pulling over, I played with the gearbox a bit. I can shift "vertically"
fine (i.e., 1st to 2nd, 3rd to 4th, etc.). But when I try to shift
"horizontally" (i.e. 2nd to 3rd, 3rd to 1st) it seems like something
isn't catching. I can eventually make the shift if I wiggle it enough,
but it's not right. Additionally, the shifter seems to have way too
much horizontal play, even when in gear.

I haven't had a chance to pull the shifter housing yet to see if I can
see anything, but I thought I'd ask if anyone has any ideas.

Thanks!

Cheers...Craig
craig(underscore)shields@yahoo.C O M
http://www.vabene.net
---
I'm not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless
information.
- Calvin (and Hobbes)

All I want is a warm bed and a kind word and unlimited
power.
- Ashleigh Brilliant

I like long walks, especially when they are taken by people
who annoy me.
- Fred Allen
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CJS
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Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 3:25 am    Post subject: Re: 911SC shifter issue Reply with quote

Vern wrote:
Quote:

Check the shifter bushings, remove small panel top of the center hump just
in front of rear seat. Bushings are likely shot.
Pelican parts is a good source.
Below is from online catalog.
Shifter Bushing Kit, 912E, 911 (1974-86), 911 Turbo (1976-88)
PEL-BUSHKIT1 $26.95

"CJS" <BIG@MEANIE.COM> wrote in message news:416B40A2.DCF4A028@MEANIE.COM...
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Hey all;

I took my '78 SC out for a drive over the weekend. First and second
gear worked fine, but when I shifted to third, I - for lack of a better
term - couldn't find it. Eventually, it went in, but when I tried to
downshift to second, I couldn't find that.

Pulling over, I played with the gearbox a bit. I can shift "vertically"
fine (i.e., 1st to 2nd, 3rd to 4th, etc.). But when I try to shift
"horizontally" (i.e. 2nd to 3rd, 3rd to 1st) it seems like something
isn't catching. I can eventually make the shift if I wiggle it enough,
but it's not right. Additionally, the shifter seems to have way too
much horizontal play, even when in gear.

I haven't had a chance to pull the shifter housing yet to see if I can
see anything, but I thought I'd ask if anyone has any ideas.

Many thanks, Vern. I'll check it out tomorrow.

Cheers...Craig
craig(underscore)shields@yahoo.C O M
http://www.vabene.net
---
I'm not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless
information.
- Calvin (and Hobbes)

All I want is a warm bed and a kind word and unlimited
power.
- Ashleigh Brilliant

I like long walks, especially when they are taken by people
who annoy me.
- Fred Allen

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CJS
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Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 3:04 am    Post subject: Re: 911SC shifter issue Reply with quote

CJS wrote:
Quote:

Vern wrote:

Check the shifter bushings, remove small panel top of the center hump just
in front of rear seat. Bushings are likely shot.
Pelican parts is a good source.
Below is from online catalog.
Shifter Bushing Kit, 912E, 911 (1974-86), 911 Turbo (1976-88)
PEL-BUSHKIT1 $26.95

"CJS" <BIG@MEANIE.COM> wrote in message news:416B40A2.DCF4A028@MEANIE.COM...
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Hey all;

I took my '78 SC out for a drive over the weekend. First and second
gear worked fine, but when I shifted to third, I - for lack of a better
term - couldn't find it. Eventually, it went in, but when I tried to
downshift to second, I couldn't find that.

Pulling over, I played with the gearbox a bit. I can shift "vertically"
fine (i.e., 1st to 2nd, 3rd to 4th, etc.). But when I try to shift
"horizontally" (i.e. 2nd to 3rd, 3rd to 1st) it seems like something
isn't catching. I can eventually make the shift if I wiggle it enough,
but it's not right. Additionally, the shifter seems to have way too
much horizontal play, even when in gear.

I haven't had a chance to pull the shifter housing yet to see if I can
see anything, but I thought I'd ask if anyone has any ideas.

Many thanks, Vern. I'll check it out tomorrow.

Vern-

I've pulled the shifter mechanism and the rear plate. The only bushing
I can find is right behind the shifter (#24 in the link below). I think
I've found the problem, though. It looks like my guide plate (#7) is
out of position. I can see some witness marks in the grease that make
it look like it moved, and it's definitely not allowing the shifter free
movement.

I'll change the front bushing since I'm in there, but I want to make
sure I'm not overlooking something.

Cheers...Craig
craig(underscore)shields@yahoo.C O M
http://www.vabene.net
---
I'm not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless
information.
- Calvin (and Hobbes)

All I want is a warm bed and a kind word and unlimited
power.
- Ashleigh Brilliant

I like long walks, especially when they are taken by people
who annoy me.
- Fred Allen
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Vern
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Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 2:52 am    Post subject: Re: 911SC shifter issue Reply with quote

http://www.pelicanparts.com/catalog/images/pedals/diag/bushing2.jpg

In the lower left of the picture in this link is a joint that sort of looks
like a U-Joint a sort of Tee arrangement. On the tee both side have a
semi-hard plastic bushing. It is pretty common to have your symptoms when
these bushings start to wear out. Also it is pretty common for one or both
to completely fall out when they get badly worn, and things get very
interesting at that point. Just think of the front of the transmission has a
rod that goes into the interior, this joint is what mates shifting tube to
the transmission.

"CJS" <BIG@MEANIE.COM> wrote in message news:416DB468.6F93431@MEANIE.COM...
Quote:


CJS wrote:

Vern wrote:

Check the shifter bushings, remove small panel top of the center hump
just
in front of rear seat. Bushings are likely shot.
Pelican parts is a good source.
Below is from online catalog.
Shifter Bushing Kit, 912E, 911 (1974-86), 911 Turbo (1976-88)
PEL-BUSHKIT1 $26.95

"CJS" <BIG@MEANIE.COM> wrote in message
news:416B40A2.DCF4A028@MEANIE.COM...
X-No-Archive: Yes

Hey all;

I took my '78 SC out for a drive over the weekend. First and second
gear worked fine, but when I shifted to third, I - for lack of a
better
term - couldn't find it. Eventually, it went in, but when I tried to
downshift to second, I couldn't find that.

Pulling over, I played with the gearbox a bit. I can shift
"vertically"
fine (i.e., 1st to 2nd, 3rd to 4th, etc.). But when I try to shift
"horizontally" (i.e. 2nd to 3rd, 3rd to 1st) it seems like something
isn't catching. I can eventually make the shift if I wiggle it
enough,
but it's not right. Additionally, the shifter seems to have way too
much horizontal play, even when in gear.

I haven't had a chance to pull the shifter housing yet to see if I
can
see anything, but I thought I'd ask if anyone has any ideas.

Many thanks, Vern. I'll check it out tomorrow.

Vern-

I've pulled the shifter mechanism and the rear plate. The only bushing
I can find is right behind the shifter (#24 in the link below). I think
I've found the problem, though. It looks like my guide plate (#7) is
out of position. I can see some witness marks in the grease that make
it look like it moved, and it's definitely not allowing the shifter free
movement.

I'll change the front bushing since I'm in there, but I want to make
sure I'm not overlooking something.

Cheers...Craig
craig(underscore)shields@yahoo.C O M
http://www.vabene.net
---
I'm not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless
information.
- Calvin (and Hobbes)

All I want is a warm bed and a kind word and unlimited
power.
- Ashleigh Brilliant

I like long walks, especially when they are taken by people
who annoy me.
- Fred Allen
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CJS
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Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 5:23 am    Post subject: Re: 911SC shifter issue Reply with quote

Vern wrote:
Quote:

http://www.pelicanparts.com/catalog/images/pedals/diag/bushing2.jpg

In the lower left of the picture in this link is a joint that sort of looks
like a U-Joint a sort of Tee arrangement. On the tee both side have a
semi-hard plastic bushing. It is pretty common to have your symptoms when
these bushings start to wear out. Also it is pretty common for one or both
to completely fall out when they get badly worn, and things get very
interesting at that point. Just think of the front of the transmission has a
rod that goes into the interior, this joint is what mates shifting tube to
the transmission.

'Kay. That's what I thought you meant. I'm changing that out along
with a change to a short-shift kit (parts on the way). That bushing on
mine is up front, which is why I was a bit confused. I didn't know if I
should be looking for a bushing in the back access port, too.

Thanks for all the help!

Cheers...Craig
craig(underscore)shields@yahoo.C O M
http://www.vabene.net
---
I'm not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless
information.
- Calvin (and Hobbes)

All I want is a warm bed and a kind word and unlimited
power.
- Ashleigh Brilliant

I like long walks, especially when they are taken by people
who annoy me.
- Fred Allen
Back to top
 
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