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SgtSilicon
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Tue Jan 04, 2005 7:53 am Post subject:
Oil pan material question |
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Howdy. I was wondering, on the aluminum block LS1, is the oil pan
steel or aluminum? I would guess steel but thought I would ask
around.
Thanks in advance for your replies.
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Ray
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Tue Jan 04, 2005 7:53 am Post subject:
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SgtSilicon wrote:
| Quote: | Howdy. I was wondering, on the aluminum block LS1, is the oil pan
steel or aluminum? I would guess steel but thought I would ask
around.
Thanks in advance for your replies.
Aluminum. |
Application specific tho - Vette pans have "wings" for clearance for
example.
I believe it's considered a structural part...
I dunno about the iron block truck engines tho...
Ray |
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shiden_kai
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Wed Jan 05, 2005 4:22 am Post subject:
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SgtSilicon wrote:
| Quote: | Howdy. I was wondering, on the aluminum block LS1, is the oil pan
steel or aluminum? I would guess steel but thought I would ask
around.
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All of the new chev small blocks have aluminum pans that
are designed to provide part of the structural strength of the
whole engine/trans unit. The 4.3 v-6 is like that, the Ecotec
is like that, the all aluminum 4, 5, and inline 6 are like that.
Ian
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Paradox
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Wed Jan 05, 2005 4:39 am Post subject:
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"shiden_kai" <violet_lightening_modified@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ByFCd.710988$%k.96224@pd7tw2no...
| Quote: | SgtSilicon wrote:
Howdy. I was wondering, on the aluminum block LS1, is the oil pan
steel or aluminum? I would guess steel but thought I would ask
around.
All of the new chev small blocks have aluminum pans that
are designed to provide part of the structural strength of the
whole engine/trans unit. The 4.3 v-6 is like that, the Ecotec
is like that, the all aluminum 4, 5, and inline 6 are like that.
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Scary? |
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Dennis Smith
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Wed Jan 05, 2005 6:45 am Post subject:
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In article <sHFCd.72534$QR1.25085@fed1read04>, parallaxaz@cox.net says...
No. Its about time they started doing that.
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Dennis Smith
-1971 Trans Am - 455 H.O. - M21 4speed - Cameo white/blue stripe-
-1973 Trans Am - 455 - TH400 auto - Buccaneer red-
-1984 Trans Am - 5.0 L - TH700R4 auto - Royal blue/silver aero-
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shiden_kai
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Wed Jan 05, 2005 7:52 am Post subject:
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Paradox wrote:
| Quote: | All of the new chev small blocks have aluminium pans that
are designed to provide part of the structural strength of the
whole engine/trans unit. The 4.3 v-6 is like that, the Ecotec
is like that, the all aluminium 4, 5, and inline 6 are like that.
Scary?
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Because?
Ian |
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SgtSilicon
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Thu Jan 06, 2005 7:35 am Post subject:
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Thanks Ray. Magnetic oil pan heaters had been mentioned recently and
I got to thinking, wouldn't work on aluminum. Looks like it will be
frost plug or radiator hose style heater is I do anything at all.
On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 06:12:52 GMT, Ray <ray@nospam.com> wrote:
| Quote: | SgtSilicon wrote:
Howdy. I was wondering, on the aluminum block LS1, is the oil pan
steel or aluminum? I would guess steel but thought I would ask
around.
Thanks in advance for your replies.
Aluminum.
Application specific tho - Vette pans have "wings" for clearance for
example.
I believe it's considered a structural part...
I dunno about the iron block truck engines tho...
Ray |
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SgtSilicon
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Thu Jan 06, 2005 7:36 am Post subject:
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Thanks Ian. Can't wait until winter is over.
On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 23:22:09 GMT, "shiden_kai"
<violet_lightening_modified@hotmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | SgtSilicon wrote:
Howdy. I was wondering, on the aluminum block LS1, is the oil pan
steel or aluminum? I would guess steel but thought I would ask
around.
All of the new chev small blocks have aluminum pans that
are designed to provide part of the structural strength of the
whole engine/trans unit. The 4.3 v-6 is like that, the Ecotec
is like that, the all aluminum 4, 5, and inline 6 are like that.
Ian
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SgtSilicon
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Thu Jan 06, 2005 7:37 am Post subject:
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Scary is when I mash the pedal down to WOT.
On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 16:39:29 -0700, "Paradox" <parallaxaz@cox.net>
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"shiden_kai" <violet_lightening_modified@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ByFCd.710988$%k.96224@pd7tw2no...
SgtSilicon wrote:
Howdy. I was wondering, on the aluminum block LS1, is the oil pan
steel or aluminum? I would guess steel but thought I would ask
around.
All of the new chev small blocks have aluminum pans that
are designed to provide part of the structural strength of the
whole engine/trans unit. The 4.3 v-6 is like that, the Ecotec
is like that, the all aluminum 4, 5, and inline 6 are like that.
Scary?
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shiden_kai
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Thu Jan 06, 2005 7:52 am Post subject:
Re: Oil pan material question |
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SgtSilicon wrote:
| Quote: | Thanks Ian. Can't wait until winter is over.
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I missed the other thread when you were asking
about what type of block heater to install. My
personal opinion is that the block heater that is
installed "in the block" is by far the best. I've
tried the recirculating ones that go in the hoses and
I've never seen them really do a whole lot other then
heat that particular hose up real good.
When I was younger, I had a 71 Roadrunner with
a 383 engine. The previous owner (a tech that I
worked with) had installed a block heater in each
side of the block. "Dual" block heaters. When I
plugged that thing in during the winter, it started like
a dream, the temp gauge was already off the cold
indicator, and heat was coming out of the heater.
Very nice....
Ian |
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Ken Weitzel
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Thu Jan 06, 2005 7:52 am Post subject:
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SgtSilicon wrote:
| Quote: | Well with that final bit I think it is decided for me. If I get one
at all, it will be a in the block frost plug type. I don't REALLY
NEED one since I hardly drive my Z28 in the winter, and I use
synthetic oil too. But another part of me always likes to be
prepared. Although very rare here, extreme cold temps of -40 F are
sometimes seen. Usually -25 F is the coldest part of winter where I
am.
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Hi...
Just noticed the thread; so may be a bit behind... but
I qualify as a cold weather old guy; it's -37 degrees here
tonight :(
If it's of interest, and you only want/need it intermittently,
what I have on hand for visitors foolish enough to visit us
unprepared during the winter is an "electric dipstick"
Simply remove your oil dipstick, stick this in in it's place,
and plug 'er in. A warning though should you decide on this
route - "check the oil" with the heater dipstick first -
it *must* be well submerged in the oil, else there's a
tiny possiblity of an oil fire. Having said that, the
upside is that it can be rotated among cars - even
snowmobiles, snowblowers, etc if you can dip it into the
oil.
And if all else fails, what we did back when I was a
boy was just open the hood, sit a 100 watt trouble lite
on top of the engine, and close the hood carefully. It
worked. :)
And fwiw, I agree with the fellow that uses two block
heaters. Wonderful! In my case not for more heat, but
rather being old and retired I don't much anymore pre-plan
trips, so can't really use a timer. Instead, should someone
say let's go for coffee, I can turn it on and it's ready to go
in only an hour or so...
Ken |
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SgtSilicon
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Thu Jan 06, 2005 7:52 am Post subject:
Re: Oil pan material question |
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Well with that final bit I think it is decided for me. If I get one
at all, it will be a in the block frost plug type. I don't REALLY
NEED one since I hardly drive my Z28 in the winter, and I use
synthetic oil too. But another part of me always likes to be
prepared. Although very rare here, extreme cold temps of -40 F are
sometimes seen. Usually -25 F is the coldest part of winter where I
am.
On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 03:59:48 GMT, "shiden_kai"
<violet_lightening_modified@hotmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | SgtSilicon wrote:
Thanks Ian. Can't wait until winter is over.
I missed the other thread when you were asking
about what type of block heater to install. My
personal opinion is that the block heater that is
installed "in the block" is by far the best. I've
tried the recirculating ones that go in the hoses and
I've never seen them really do a whole lot other then
heat that particular hose up real good.
When I was younger, I had a 71 Roadrunner with
a 383 engine. The previous owner (a tech that I
worked with) had installed a block heater in each
side of the block. "Dual" block heaters. When I
plugged that thing in during the winter, it started like
a dream, the temp gauge was already off the cold
indicator, and heat was coming out of the heater.
Very nice....
Ian
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SgtSilicon
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Fri Jan 07, 2005 5:03 am Post subject:
Re: Oil pan material question |
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Thanks Ken. I've heard the oil dipstick ones are the least desirable,
but you make a point that it can be moved from vehicle to vehicle
which for some can be important.
On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 06:36:11 GMT, Ken Weitzel <kweitzel@shaw.ca>
wrote:
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SgtSilicon wrote:
Well with that final bit I think it is decided for me. If I get one
at all, it will be a in the block frost plug type. I don't REALLY
NEED one since I hardly drive my Z28 in the winter, and I use
synthetic oil too. But another part of me always likes to be
prepared. Although very rare here, extreme cold temps of -40 F are
sometimes seen. Usually -25 F is the coldest part of winter where I
am.
Hi...
Just noticed the thread; so may be a bit behind... but
I qualify as a cold weather old guy; it's -37 degrees here
tonight :(
If it's of interest, and you only want/need it intermittently,
what I have on hand for visitors foolish enough to visit us
unprepared during the winter is an "electric dipstick"
Simply remove your oil dipstick, stick this in in it's place,
and plug 'er in. A warning though should you decide on this
route - "check the oil" with the heater dipstick first -
it *must* be well submerged in the oil, else there's a
tiny possiblity of an oil fire. Having said that, the
upside is that it can be rotated among cars - even
snowmobiles, snowblowers, etc if you can dip it into the
oil.
And if all else fails, what we did back when I was a
boy was just open the hood, sit a 100 watt trouble lite
on top of the engine, and close the hood carefully. It
worked. :)
And fwiw, I agree with the fellow that uses two block
heaters. Wonderful! In my case not for more heat, but
rather being old and retired I don't much anymore pre-plan
trips, so can't really use a timer. Instead, should someone
say let's go for coffee, I can turn it on and it's ready to go
in only an hour or so...
Ken |
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451ctds
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Mon Jan 10, 2005 3:49 am Post subject:
Re: Oil pan material question |
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SgtSilicon wrote:
| Quote: | Thanks Ray. Magnetic oil pan heaters had been mentioned recently and
I got to thinking, wouldn't work on aluminum. Looks like it will be
frost plug or radiator hose style heater is I do anything at all.
On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 06:12:52 GMT, Ray <ray@nospam.com> wrote:
SgtSilicon wrote:
Howdy. I was wondering, on the aluminum block LS1, is the oil pan
steel or aluminum? I would guess steel but thought I would ask
around.
Thanks in advance for your replies.
Aluminum.
Application specific tho - Vette pans have "wings" for clearance for
example.
I believe it's considered a structural part...
I dunno about the iron block truck engines tho...
Ray
Could you glue the pan heater in place ? |
Seems to me that following a good cleaning, epoxy glue should
hold the heater, they usually end up near the crossmember, as I recall. |
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SgtSilicon
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Mon Jan 10, 2005 7:55 am Post subject:
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Epoxy is not a good conductor of heat. In fact, it's really very poor
so I don't think that would work.
On 09 Jan 2005 22:49:48 EST, 451ctds <451CTDS@concentric.net> wrote:
| Quote: | SgtSilicon wrote:
Thanks Ray. Magnetic oil pan heaters had been mentioned recently and
I got to thinking, wouldn't work on aluminum. Looks like it will be
frost plug or radiator hose style heater is I do anything at all.
On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 06:12:52 GMT, Ray <ray@nospam.com> wrote:
SgtSilicon wrote:
Howdy. I was wondering, on the aluminum block LS1, is the oil pan
steel or aluminum? I would guess steel but thought I would ask
around.
Thanks in advance for your replies.
Aluminum.
Application specific tho - Vette pans have "wings" for clearance for
example.
I believe it's considered a structural part...
I dunno about the iron block truck engines tho...
Ray
Could you glue the pan heater in place ?
Seems to me that following a good cleaning, epoxy glue should
hold the heater, they usually end up near the crossmember, as I recall. |
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