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Fred Aston
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Tue Nov 16, 2004 11:25 am Post subject:
Re: 944 Turbo or 928 |
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Mike, you hit the nail on the head. The 928 was introduced to the market as
Porsche's answer to Camaros and Trans Ams at the time. I've sold Porsches
for the local dealer here in NC, so I've driven them all. I also own an '89
944. 928: V8 monster with much more weight. 944: Very quick and nimble
fun car. Easier to see out of too.
"Mike Fisher" <biosurgery@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | What is the weight difference between the 944, 944Turbo, and 928?
I imagine that the 944 is the better "track car" and the 928 the better
muscle-car (competing with Mustangs and Camaros)... with Porsche
refinement,
of course.
"Sam Hain" <samhain1313@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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E Brown <epbrown01@att.net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 21:36:49 +1000, "Andrew Sword"
andrew.sword@bigpond.com> wrote:
I'm thinking of either a 928S or a 944 Turbo. I like the look and
sound
of
the 928 but hear the cost to service and run is not cheap. I was told
to
look at a 944 Turbo as possible alternative.
What do people think of the cars? How do they compare to drive?
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Devils944S2
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Sat Nov 20, 2004 5:40 pm Post subject:
RE:Porsches are EVIL, the DEVIL created them in HELL ! ! ! |
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Thanks for the credit, but I live in Washington and our cars are clearly
built in Germany...had you said this while I lived in Arizona, you might
have an argument... |
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unhappy.customer2004
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Sun Nov 21, 2004 1:02 am Post subject:
Re: Micronet Showroom |
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Are these guys the same as those trading as LHD porsche
www.lhdporsche.com ? Offering some v.good prices on LHD porsches.
Address given on lhd porsche site is
14-18 St Marys Gate
The Lace Market
Nottingham
NG1 1PF
Address given on Micronet site is
Micronet Showrooms,
14-18 St Mary's Gate,
The Lace Market,
Nottingham.
NG1 1PF
Could be different companies trading from the same building I suppose ?
EDGE
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The office isnt big enough for two separate companies! I know, I
spent a few afternoons there being a pain to get my money back...
UnhappyCustomer2004
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unhappy.customer2004
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Sun Nov 21, 2004 1:24 am Post subject:
Re: Micronet Showroom |
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That address isnt big enough for two separate companies, trust me I
have been there a few times harrassing them into a full refund earlier
in the year!!
Anyone listening, dont part with your hard earned money to these guys
as in my experience they will screw you over. (you can read my
experiences if you trawl back to earlier on this year).
Take a step back and a deep breath if you are suckered into their web
site prices. Just think about how much money your car is worth, then
the price of a train ticket to Nottingham pails into in-significance
if you are thinking of buying. Once you visit their offices you will
be glad of my advice and richer to boot!
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CJS
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Wed Nov 24, 2004 5:41 am Post subject:
Re: Tires--this should start some discussions :-) |
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Fred Aston wrote:
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Mike wrote:
I have a 1987 924S with 195/65 15s on the car now. I want to replace the
tires with a good road/handling tire. I have heard good things about the
Michelin Sport and Bridgestone Potenza G009. Tire Rack has the Potenza
tires over Michelin by a small margin AND user comments have not been
favorable to Michelin.
I live in Colorado so I need to have a good all year tire with decent
handling as I participate in PCA events.
Thoughts??
Mike
My baby wears Michelin Pilots GTX4s (few years old). Won't put anything
else on her as long as they make them. Do they still make them?
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What a waste. Pep Boys can get you done for $19 per tire.
Cheers...Craig
craig(underscore)shields@yahoo.C O M
http://www.vabene.net
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I'm not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless
information.
- Calvin (and Hobbes)
All I want is a warm bed and a kind word and unlimited
power.
- Ashleigh Brilliant
I like long walks, especially when they are taken by people
who annoy me.
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Mud
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Tue Dec 07, 2004 4:51 am Post subject:
Re: Turbo charge a NA 944? |
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doug wrote:
| Quote: | most of us go out and buy the real thing...
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Great response, real helpful! Thanks for wasting your time in
responding to my post.
E Brown wrote:
I have been keeping my eyes out for a Turbo for some time now but a
chance of a lifetime has been presented to me and I don't think I can
pass it up?
84 NA 944
86000 Miles
Mint (AND I MEAN M.I.N.T.) condition!!!!
All service records with receipts
Not a scratch, dent, or dead bug on it. Anywhere!
Price.....$5000
So Doug, in all your infinite wisdom, what do you say? Keep searching
for a Turbo that would be such a deal?
Thanks E Brown for a more sensible response.
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doug
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Tue Dec 07, 2004 5:41 am Post subject:
Re: Turbo charge a NA 944? |
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the point of my post was, that there is a whole bunch of stuff attached
to the 951 that cannot be mounted on a "standard" 944. suspension etc.
in addition to the various bits and pieces that are necessary to replace
on the engine itself, including the turbo, external oil cooler,
manifold, maf, computer ( both the klr and the dme) cooling syste, total
exhaust, clutch, transmission (w/associated oil cooler) ... the amount
of money you would need to spend do the "conversion" exceeds the cost of
a "real" turbo....
$5,000 for a 84 , you have got to be joking !!!!! the going rate for a
85.5 or later is less than that.. regardless of the 84 being mint it is
still an 84, with all of the drawbacks of the pre 85.5
DC
Mud wrote:
| Quote: | doug wrote:
most of us go out and buy the real thing...
Great response, real helpful! Thanks for wasting your time in
responding to my post.
E Brown wrote:
The best tip is to sell your NA and buy a turbo - any other program
is a waste of money, since you can't build one the equal of the
Porsche original for less than they go for. However, you won't be the
first 944 owner this foolhardy:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6434&item=4507443000&rd=1
Emanuel
I have been keeping my eyes out for a Turbo for some time now but a
chance of a lifetime has been presented to me and I don't think I can
pass it up?
84 NA 944
86000 Miles
Mint (AND I MEAN M.I.N.T.) condition!!!!
All service records with receipts
Not a scratch, dent, or dead bug on it. Anywhere!
Price.....$5000
So Doug, in all your infinite wisdom, what do you say? Keep searching
for a Turbo that would be such a deal?
Thanks E Brown for a more sensible response.
MUD |
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E Brown
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Tue Dec 07, 2004 5:04 pm Post subject:
Re: Turbo charge a NA 944? |
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On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 17:34:44 -0800, doug <drcorley@pacbell.net> wrote:
| Quote: | the point of my post was, that there is a whole bunch of stuff attached
to the 951 that cannot be mounted on a "standard" 944. suspension etc.
in addition to the various bits and pieces that are necessary to replace
on the engine itself, including the turbo, external oil cooler,
manifold, maf, computer ( both the klr and the dme) cooling syste, total
exhaust, clutch, transmission (w/associated oil cooler) ... the amount
of money you would need to spend do the "conversion" exceeds the cost of
a "real" turbo....
$5,000 for a 84 , you have got to be joking !!!!! the going rate for a
85.5 or later is less than that.. regardless of the 84 being mint it is
still an 84, with all of the drawbacks of the pre 85.5
Mud, the truth is that you'd be better off buying a high-mile turbo |
for that much than a mint early NA. I have a book on 944s by Brian
Long and it has two pictures in it I'd love to have as posters. One is
of a completely disassembled early 944 laid out in a white room, the
other is a similar picture showing all the different parts in the 944
Turbo, compared to the NA. You won't come close to matching what the
engineers in Weissach thought up for any sensible amount of money.
There's also the fact that I'm a fan of early 944s. I don't think
five grand for a mint one is insane - hell, if it's Guards Red with a
black interior, I'd like the contact info, though of course I'd prefer
a mint '83. :) But to take a mint car and butcher it trying to make it
something it isn't is distasteful to me. Leave that car for someone
that would appreciate it, and just wait a bit longer and get a 951.
Heck, it's heading for winter now, you've got until April or May to
save up.
Emanuel
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1983 Porsche 911 Guards Red/Black
1983 Porsche 944 Guards Red/Black
1983 Porsche 928 Guards Red/Black |
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Thorsten Hüser
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Thu Dec 09, 2004 9:15 pm Post subject:
Re: Boxster '02 - help with decision |
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Hi Fred,
I bought my Boxster a half year ago here in Germany and I must say:
I have fallen in love for the second time. Once into my girlfriend,
second time in the Boxster. A dream car!
In the future I`ll never drive other cars then porsche.
My decision: BUY IT! :-)
A boxster fan
Best regards
Thorsten Hüser
"Fred Aston" <fred.aston@earthlink.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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| Quote: | Tony wrote:
I have an opportunity to buy an immaculate (7,000 miles) '02 Boxster 2.7
liter 5-speed with the factory sport package including 17" wheels. My
questions for those with long term experience with the car concerning
power
and delivery. I plan to drive it on w/e (not a commuter car and no
racing)
and was wondering if it has adequate power / flexible power band or do
you
need to wind it up to get any decent power. All indications are it was
very
well taken care of with all docs / service and still under full factory
warranty til May '06; the car was not stored but was used on average of
3K /
year. Any heads up on weak points, or things to look for. Believe I can
get
it for somewhere in the $33-35K range.
Any help is appreciated.
P.S. My previous Auto experience include BMW 5 series, SAAB 900, (Audi
A6Q
and VW Passat Wagon Current) all stick except the Audi.
The '02 Boxster got variable cam phasing. This increased low end torque
like crazy. I think you will be quite please with the cars performance. |
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Guest
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Sun Dec 19, 2004 2:17 pm Post subject:
Re: used Cayenne - a good deal??? |
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45k for a used S sounds about right, give or take. You should also
ask if all of the recall fixes have been performed on his '04, or
if they will be before you get it. To get a more accurate answer
on price, you should also post your question on the Cayenne forum
on rennlist (free to sign up):
http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=77
Randy S wrote:
| Quote: | The local dealer knows I want an "S", but can only afford a V6. I
told him
I'd rather wait for a used "S"... He called me today, to tell me
about a
customer of his who wants to trade in their 2004 silver/gray S, with
Navi, with
30,000 miles on it, for a Turbo. (The owner replaced his 911 with a
911 Turbo
last fall, and is hungry for the Cayenne Turbo now) The owner bought
the "S"
last fall, and because he is afraid of flying, has put 30K miles on
the "S"
already.
The trade is supposed to happen within the next month, so I have
yet to
see the "S" in question, but the dealer told me he's making enough
dough on the
sale of the Turbo that he'll sell me the "S" for $45,000, or $46,500
with the
extended warranty.
What do you all think? If the car is in good shape, is it a good
deal?
What things can I be expecting to need to repair/replace already?
Tires?
Brakes? Is there a 30K mile service? Help!
Randy |
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Sun Dec 19, 2004 2:17 pm Post subject:
Re: used Cayenne - a good deal??? |
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Randy S wrote:
| Quote: | The local dealer knows I want an "S", but can only afford a V6. I
told him
I'd rather wait for a used "S"... He called me today, to tell me
about a
customer of his who wants to trade in their 2004 silver/gray S, with
Navi, with
30,000 miles on it, for a Turbo. (The owner replaced his 911 with a
911 Turbo
last fall, and is hungry for the Cayenne Turbo now) The owner bought
the "S"
last fall, and because he is afraid of flying, has put 30K miles on
the "S"
already.
The trade is supposed to happen within the next month, so I have
yet to
see the "S" in question, but the dealer told me he's making enough
dough on the
sale of the Turbo that he'll sell me the "S" for $45,000, or $46,500
with the
extended warranty.
What do you all think? If the car is in good shape, is it a good
deal?
What things can I be expecting to need to repair/replace already?
Tires?
Brakes? Is there a 30K mile service? Help!
Randy |
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Sun Dec 19, 2004 3:04 pm Post subject:
Re: used Cayenne - a good deal??? |
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45k for a used S sounds about right, give or take. You should also
ask if all of the recall fixes have been performed on his '04, or
if they will be before you get it. To get a more accurate answer
on price, you should also post your question on the Cayenne forum
on rennlist (free to sign up):
http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=77
Randy S wrote:
| Quote: | The local dealer knows I want an "S", but can only afford a V6. I
told him
I'd rather wait for a used "S"... He called me today, to tell me
about a
customer of his who wants to trade in their 2004 silver/gray S, with
Navi, with
30,000 miles on it, for a Turbo. (The owner replaced his 911 with a
911 Turbo
last fall, and is hungry for the Cayenne Turbo now) The owner bought
the "S"
last fall, and because he is afraid of flying, has put 30K miles on
the "S"
already.
The trade is supposed to happen within the next month, so I have
yet to
see the "S" in question, but the dealer told me he's making enough
dough on the
sale of the Turbo that he'll sell me the "S" for $45,000, or $46,500
with the
extended warranty.
What do you all think? If the car is in good shape, is it a good
deal?
What things can I be expecting to need to repair/replace already?
Tires?
Brakes? Is there a 30K mile service? Help!
Randy |
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Sun Dec 19, 2004 3:14 pm Post subject:
Re: used Cayenne - a good deal??? |
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marvin_hecht@yahoo.com wrote:
| Quote: | 45k for a used S sounds about right, give or take. You should also
ask if all of the recall fixes have been performed on his '04, or
if they will be before you get it. To get a more accurate answer
on price, you should also post your question on the Cayenne forum
on rennlist (free to sign up):
http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=77
Randy S wrote:
The local dealer knows I want an "S", but can only afford a V6. I
told him
I'd rather wait for a used "S"... He called me today, to tell me
about a
customer of his who wants to trade in their 2004 silver/gray S, with
Navi, with
30,000 miles on it, for a Turbo. (The owner replaced his 911 with a
911 Turbo
last fall, and is hungry for the Cayenne Turbo now) The owner bought
the "S"
last fall, and because he is afraid of flying, has put 30K miles on
the "S"
already.
The trade is supposed to happen within the next month, so I have
yet to
see the "S" in question, but the dealer told me he's making enough
dough on the
sale of the Turbo that he'll sell me the "S" for $45,000, or $46,500
with the
extended warranty.
What do you all think? If the car is in good shape, is it a good
deal?
What things can I be expecting to need to repair/replace already?
Tires?
Brakes? Is there a 30K mile service? Help!
Randy
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in addition, i would check out the availability of a left over brand new
'04 touareg...there is still a pretty long list of the V-8's in dealers'
inventory and the ones that were [are] leftover were generally the most
fully loaded ones because they were the most expensive......or for an even
better value...look for a used 8...the touareg is 98% same vehicle.....with
the many bucks saved, you could upgrade the touareg with some of the
performance stuff found in "excellence" and have a real unique
vehicle....of course, there is nothing like a porsche experience. go for
which ever makes you happy!
regards |
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Sun Dec 19, 2004 3:15 pm Post subject:
Re: used Cayenne - a good deal??? |
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marvin_hecht@yahoo.com wrote:
| Quote: | 45k for a used S sounds about right, give or take. You should also
ask if all of the recall fixes have been performed on his '04, or
if they will be before you get it. To get a more accurate answer
on price, you should also post your question on the Cayenne forum
on rennlist (free to sign up):
http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=77
Randy S wrote:
The local dealer knows I want an "S", but can only afford a V6. I
told him
I'd rather wait for a used "S"... He called me today, to tell me
about a
customer of his who wants to trade in their 2004 silver/gray S, with
Navi, with
30,000 miles on it, for a Turbo. (The owner replaced his 911 with a
911 Turbo
last fall, and is hungry for the Cayenne Turbo now) The owner bought
the "S"
last fall, and because he is afraid of flying, has put 30K miles on
the "S"
already.
The trade is supposed to happen within the next month, so I have
yet to
see the "S" in question, but the dealer told me he's making enough
dough on the
sale of the Turbo that he'll sell me the "S" for $45,000, or $46,500
with the
extended warranty.
What do you all think? If the car is in good shape, is it a good
deal?
What things can I be expecting to need to repair/replace already?
Tires?
Brakes? Is there a 30K mile service? Help!
Randy
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in addition, i would check out the availability of a left over brand new
'04 touareg...there is still a pretty long list of the V-8's in dealers'
inventory and the ones that were [are] leftover were generally the most
fully loaded ones because they were the most expensive......or for an even
better value...look for a used 8...the touareg is 98% same vehicle.....with
the many bucks saved, you could upgrade the touareg with some of the
performance stuff found in "excellence" and have a real unique
vehicle....of course, there is nothing like a porsche experience. go for
which ever makes you happy!
regards |
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Guest
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Sun Dec 19, 2004 3:17 pm Post subject:
Re: used Cayenne - a good deal??? |
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marvin_hecht@yahoo.com wrote:
| Quote: | 45k for a used S sounds about right, give or take. You should also
ask if all of the recall fixes have been performed on his '04, or
if they will be before you get it. To get a more accurate answer
on price, you should also post your question on the Cayenne forum
on rennlist (free to sign up):
http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=77
Randy S wrote:
The local dealer knows I want an "S", but can only afford a V6. I
told him
I'd rather wait for a used "S"... He called me today, to tell me
about a
customer of his who wants to trade in their 2004 silver/gray S, with
Navi, with
30,000 miles on it, for a Turbo. (The owner replaced his 911 with a
911 Turbo
last fall, and is hungry for the Cayenne Turbo now) The owner bought
the "S"
last fall, and because he is afraid of flying, has put 30K miles on
the "S"
already.
The trade is supposed to happen within the next month, so I have
yet to
see the "S" in question, but the dealer told me he's making enough
dough on the
sale of the Turbo that he'll sell me the "S" for $45,000, or $46,500
with the
extended warranty.
What do you all think? If the car is in good shape, is it a good
deal?
What things can I be expecting to need to repair/replace already?
Tires?
Brakes? Is there a 30K mile service? Help!
Randy
|
in addition, i would check out the availability of a left over brand new
'04 touareg...there is still a pretty long list of the V-8's in dealers'
inventory and the ones that were [are] leftover were generally the most
fully loaded ones because they were the most expensive......or for an even
better value...look for a used 8...the touareg is 98% same vehicle.....with
the many bucks saved, you could upgrade the touareg with some of the
performance stuff found in "excellence" and have a real unique
vehicle....of course, there is nothing like a porsche experience. go for
which ever makes you happy!
regards |
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