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[Harry Face]

For those of you traveling the Illinois Toll Roads the Tolls will double
in price, January 1, 2005

At the present they are 40 cents, going up to 80 cents.

A few booth's on I - 355 are 50 cent & will go up to $1.00

Truckers will take the biggest hit as their tolls will double and triple
in some cases, but the truck tolls will vary in price depending on the
time of day you roll through.

The increase is to force Illinois residents to buy the I - Pass
Transponder ( $ 50 ).

Its that electronic toll deduction device stuck to the inside of your
windsheild. For I - Pass users the tolls will remain 40 to 50 cents. A $
40.00 credit is established when you buy the unit. There is a $10.00
deposit for the unit. When your account gets down to $10.00 your
automatically billed $40.00 through your credit card.

Only CASH paying customers ( & out of staters ) will pay an incresed
toll.


Santa Claus brought me an I - Pass for Christmas.

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[Scott Buchanan]

Please tell me about toll roads. Being from Washington state, I have not
seen a toll road. There is one toll bridge that still collects tolls even it
was paid for many years ago. Are the toll booths on the on ramps or are you
driving along and have to stop to pay? How far apart are the booths spaced?
Are they private or government operated? I assume that the tolls are to pay
for road construction and maintenance. Out here gas tax pays for the road
and highways. With the I-pass, do you have to slow down for it to work.

I remember a story about some state that can use information from I-pass to
check your time from one booth to the next to determine if you were
speeding. Based on this info you can receive a ticket.



"Harry Face" <harryface@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:25795-41D23E53-4@storefull-3118.bay.webtv.net...

[Geoff Welsh]

That's what we need here in Hawaii, tolls for tourists.
We'd "clean up", and could finally pay for stuff we need like more cops,
schools, and road widenings.
GW



Harry Face wrote:

[Dennis Smith]

In article <25795-41D23E53-4@storefull-3118.bay.webtv.net>,
harryface@webtv.net says...

[Jonathan Grobe]

On 2004-12-29, MelvinGibson@mailcity.com <MelvinGibson@mailcity.com> wrote:

[Guest]

Citizens of Hawaii are already getting a free ride. Hawaii and
Alaska receive millions more they they pay onto the Interstates
highway trust fund, for their roads. Public transit rider are
even worse when it come to getting a free ride. Metropolitan
Public transit systems suck millions from that fund annually, yet
pay nothing into the fund

I believe toll roads are great, nobody makes the locals use a
toll road. The users, particularly out of state drivers that do
not support the state system of roads, should help pay the cost
of those better roads that speed them through a state. ;)


mike hunt



Geoff Welsh wrote:

[Hairy]

[Bret Chase]

On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 23:00:16 -0800, "Scott Buchanan"
<t120rv@pacifier.com> wrote:

[SgtSilicon]

On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 09:09:34 +0000 (UTC), ps2guru@REMOVETHISyahoo.com
(Dennis Smith) wrote:

[Geoff Welsh]

I can't possibly think of one thing I have that tourists pay for, but I
do know all they do is fill up the ffffing under developed roads, so
that it's impossible to get anyware. Locals don't drive around
aimlessly, tourists do, so it would be quite fare if they paid to use
the roads. Our vehicle registrations cost about what they did in
Illinois, but Illinois has tolls. Trust me we need tolls here.
GW


SgtSilicon wrote:

[SgtSilicon]

Maybe Wisconsin should start charging tolls only to Illinois
registered vehicles. I think that would be appropriate. Cook county
is already sending it's social problems to our communities, it would
be nice to have Illinois "give something back" to us.

On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 23:19:15 -0600, harryface@webtv.net (Harry Face)
wrote:

[SgtSilicon]

Tourists already "pay" for damn near everything you have. The rest
comes from Uncle Sam's pockets via military, and a bit of sugar and
pineapple. You want more, you should try to PRODUCE something that
others want to buy from you. Sure, you can try to tap the tourists
for even more, but you run the risk persuading them to visit
alternative locals where their money stretches farther.


On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 07:13:49 GMT, Geoff Welsh <geoffdubya@some.rr.com>
wrote:

[SgtSilicon]

You can't possibly think of anything you have that tourism paid for.
Your scope of understanding economics doesn't go beyond your own bank
account apparently. Let me clue you in. Take Milwaukee for an
instance. Harley Davidson motorcycles are made there. Do you really
think that only those directly involved with the company ever had
anything they own paid for by a biker? If a machinist at HD likes
fried chicken, and he spends some of his paycheck on fried chicken,
now the folks that work at the KFC are seeing some of that money that
came from someone buying a motorcycle. And the person who services
their HVAC system, and the person who plows out the lot there at KFC
etc. The "someones" that buy the motorcycles are flowing their money
in from all over the country and world.

Without exports, you don't get outside money flowing in. Without
outside money flowing in, you are limited to what a community can do
for each other locally, with what resources are at hand locally. In
Hawaii that would mean a lot of folks wearing grass clothing and
sucking on pineapples.

I'll say it again. If you take away the money Uncle Sam and tourists
pump into Hawaii, you have precious little left to buy cars with to
use on those roads. So think about that the next time you look at
what you own.

On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 05:57:03 GMT, Geoff Welsh <geoffdubya@some.rr.com>
wrote:

[Ken Weitzel]

SgtSilicon wrote:

[Geoff Welsh]

I understand econ, and that our "export" is tourism, in and of the fact
that people from elsewhere pay to "be" here. I stated that tourists
should pump more money into my state with a toll road system. Local
politicians have that platform. But without regard to that, I am
curious about this Uncle Sam money you say we get, because I have not
seen or heard of it. Last I checked, we were a very poor state.
GW
(HNY, BTW)


SgtSilicon wrote: