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LIW
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Thu Dec 23, 2004 7:52 am Post subject:
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"Dave LaCourse" <davplac@aol.comPirate> wrote in message
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Love the RS6. Just coming up on 15K joy filled miles. It embarasses the
hell
out of most Corvettes and Porsches, but blasting STS "Dudes" is about as
much
fun as you can have in any car.
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Hmmmmmmmm........... I'll just have to settle.
Larry
02 Audi S8
04 Corvette C5 Coupe
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Dave LaCourse
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Thu Dec 23, 2004 5:08 pm Post subject:
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LIW writes:
| Quote: | Hmmmmmmmm........... I'll just have to settle.
Larry
02 Audi S8
04 Corvette C5 Coupe
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Hmmmm. That's a very nice "settle". d;o) |
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AustinMini.OsiTech.Net
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Thu Dec 23, 2004 7:58 pm Post subject:
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It befuddles me why anyone will want a stick shift luxury car. Especially
when the same model offers a tiptronic.
This is why I ended up with an Audi and not a WRX.
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"Dan Koren" <dankoren@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"KIP" <not@foruse.org> wrote in message
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KLS <xymergy@suds.com> wrote:
On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 12:05:53 -0600, KIP <not@foruse.org> wrote:
Me and my wife test drove a 2001 A6 2.7T 6M and found a couple of
glitches which I would like to share with the group. The steering
wheel does not provide a reasonable response even in turns, and
the gas pedal is so light that you do not feel any resistance at
all. As far as I know it is a 'drive-by-wire' system, not a direct
link, and it might be a cause of the problem.
Subaru is a lot cheaper than Audi, so do consider it (advice from
someone with a 1999 Legacy Outback and a 1998 Audi A4 2.8Q), but these
two features of the car you drove are not normal for an Audi. Pass on
that car and find a different Audi.
2001 A6s are coming off lease, and those with a stick shift are rare, at
least in my area. Only two of them are near by. Not too many choices
unfortunately. I'll try to look onto another one later this week.
Then ask yourself whether having a stick-shift is a
real requirement, or just a prejudice or superstition
from another time. There isn't anything a stick-shift
can do that an automatic cannot -- especially one like
Audi's Tiptronic, which you can always drive as if it
were a stick without having to worry about replacing
clutches.
dk
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Peter Smith
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Thu Dec 23, 2004 11:38 pm Post subject:
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"AustinMini.OsiTech.Net" <QuickSilver@OsiTech.Net(remove)> wrote...
<< It befuddles me why anyone will want a stick shift luxury car...This is
why I ended up with an Audi and not a WRX. >>
It befuddles me that anybody could use the words "luxury car" and "WRX" in
the same sentence, in the manner in which you have.
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Dan Koren
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Fri Dec 24, 2004 12:42 am Post subject:
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As you may have noticed, mindsets take a lot longer to
change than technology. 50 years ago, automatics were
clunkier, heavier and less fuel efficient than stick
shifts, not to mention less responsive. They were
also less reliable. Nowadays, things have reversed
completely. Even race cars use automatics nowadays.
Race drivers cannot shift as quickly as an automatic.
Some people however still cling to their prejudices.
Personally, I'd like to see stick-shifts outlawed
as they are a definite safety hazard.
dk
"AustinMini.OsiTech.Net" <QuickSilver@OsiTech.Net(remove)> wrote in message
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| Quote: | It befuddles me why anyone will want a stick shift luxury car. Especially
when the same model offers a tiptronic.
This is why I ended up with an Audi and not a WRX.
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"Dan Koren" <dankoren@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"KIP" <not@foruse.org> wrote in message
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KLS <xymergy@suds.com> wrote:
On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 12:05:53 -0600, KIP <not@foruse.org> wrote:
Me and my wife test drove a 2001 A6 2.7T 6M and found a couple of
glitches which I would like to share with the group. The steering
wheel does not provide a reasonable response even in turns, and
the gas pedal is so light that you do not feel any resistance at
all. As far as I know it is a 'drive-by-wire' system, not a direct
link, and it might be a cause of the problem.
Subaru is a lot cheaper than Audi, so do consider it (advice from
someone with a 1999 Legacy Outback and a 1998 Audi A4 2.8Q), but
these
two features of the car you drove are not normal for an Audi. Pass
on
that car and find a different Audi.
2001 A6s are coming off lease, and those with a stick shift are rare,
at
least in my area. Only two of them are near by. Not too many choices
unfortunately. I'll try to look onto another one later this week.
Then ask yourself whether having a stick-shift is a
real requirement, or just a prejudice or superstition
from another time. There isn't anything a stick-shift
can do that an automatic cannot -- especially one like
Audi's Tiptronic, which you can always drive as if it
were a stick without having to worry about replacing
clutches.
dk
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Doug Haseltine
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Fri Dec 24, 2004 1:22 am Post subject:
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On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 14:42:17 -0500, Dan Koren wrote:
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As you may have noticed, mindsets take a lot longer to
change than technology. 50 years ago, automatics were
clunkier, heavier and less fuel efficient than stick
shifts, not to mention less responsive. They were
also less reliable. Nowadays, things have reversed
completely. Even race cars use automatics nowadays.
Race drivers cannot shift as quickly as an automatic.
Some people however still cling to their prejudices.
Personally, I'd like to see stick-shifts outlawed
as they are a definite safety hazard.
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I just wish the A6 tiptronic offered something closer
to the 0.2 second tip shift in the higher end Euro
sport cars. Seems like most the time our cars are
closer to 3-5 times slower than that. Other brands
measure and brag about their tip shift times. I
haven't seen those numbers in any A6/8 brochure. But
then the typical Audi customer is probably more
concerned about the smoothness of the shift rather than
the rate. |
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AustinMini.OsiTech.Net
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Fri Dec 24, 2004 7:51 am Post subject:
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The GIAC tip chip will take care of that nicely.
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"Doug Haseltine" <doug@softwaregod.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 14:42:17 -0500, Dan Koren wrote:
As you may have noticed, mindsets take a lot longer to
change than technology. 50 years ago, automatics were
clunkier, heavier and less fuel efficient than stick
shifts, not to mention less responsive. They were
also less reliable. Nowadays, things have reversed
completely. Even race cars use automatics nowadays.
Race drivers cannot shift as quickly as an automatic.
Some people however still cling to their prejudices.
Personally, I'd like to see stick-shifts outlawed
as they are a definite safety hazard.
I just wish the A6 tiptronic offered something closer
to the 0.2 second tip shift in the higher end Euro
sport cars. Seems like most the time our cars are
closer to 3-5 times slower than that. Other brands
measure and brag about their tip shift times. I
haven't seen those numbers in any A6/8 brochure. But
then the typical Audi customer is probably more
concerned about the smoothness of the shift rather than
the rate.
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AustinMini.OsiTech.Net
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Fri Dec 24, 2004 7:51 am Post subject:
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Yes Peter you are correct.
I was searching for a WRX when I saw the A4 on the lot. Just be opening the
door and sitting on the drivers seat I was sold.
That it had tiptronic closed the deal.
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"Peter Smith" <pmsmith@evilnet.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | "AustinMini.OsiTech.Net" <QuickSilver@OsiTech.Net(remove)> wrote...
It befuddles me why anyone will want a stick shift luxury car...This is
why I ended up with an Audi and not a WRX.
It befuddles me that anybody could use the words "luxury car" and "WRX" in
the same sentence, in the manner in which you have.
Peter Smith
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Doug Haseltine
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Sat Dec 25, 2004 7:37 am Post subject:
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On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 02:59:42 +0000, AustinMini.OsiTech.Net wrote:
| Quote: | The GIAC tip chip will take care of that nicely.
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Well I have the tip chip already. Sure enough the shifting
itself got faster. But the car still thinks about whether it
should shift or not for nearly a second beforehand. I've heard
some folks report that the GIAC engine chip in addition to
the tip chip improves the response time a bit. |
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KIP
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Tue Dec 28, 2004 9:53 pm Post subject:
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Dan Koren <dankoren@yahoo.com> wrote:
| Quote: | As you may have noticed, mindsets take a lot longer to
change than technology. 50 years ago, automatics were
clunkier, heavier and less fuel efficient than stick
shifts, not to mention less responsive. They were
also less reliable. Nowadays, things have reversed
completely. Even race cars use automatics nowadays.
Race drivers cannot shift as quickly as an automatic.
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Why are you people giving me advices I did not asked for?
And why do you care what I drive? And how come you have an
opinion about the subject you have no idea about?
I do not care what you drive, just be happy with it. And
why do you think even Cadillac is offering a stick shift
in its CTS regardless of 50 years of technology? I'll tell
you why. Because there is a number of people who knows the
difference. I do not care how fast a slush box is able to shift,
it is not about the shifting speed at all. It is about control,
convenience, comfort and safety if you like, but I doubt that
you'll understand. I do not want buttons, I want a real thing,
pure and perfect.
| Quote: | Some people however still cling to their prejudices.
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Stay blindfolded if you like, I dont care.
| Quote: | Personally, I'd like to see stick-shifts outlawed
as they are a definite safety hazard.
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This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Thank you,
I've had a very good laugh.
Ironically the car is not even for me, it is for my wife. I'm
quite happy with my two-seater, and not going to replace it
in the nearest future.
But, I have a very bad news for you. I bought her a car, and it
is an A6 with 6 speed. We also considered a BMW 530, which she
liked the most, but in the area where we live having an AWD is
a good advantage, and we decided to get this one. So, I might be
insulting you guys once in a while:)
Thanks,
Vlad
| Quote: | "AustinMini.OsiTech.Net" <QuickSilver@OsiTech.Net(remove)> wrote in message
news:n2Byd.5424$h.2302@trnddc04...
It befuddles me why anyone will want a stick shift luxury car. Especially
when the same model offers a tiptronic.
This is why I ended up with an Audi and not a WRX.
--
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Looking for cheap Austin Mini, Wagon, Clubman, Mokes and other variants
for
sale in the USA.
"Dan Koren" <dankoren@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"KIP" <not@foruse.org> wrote in message
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KLS <xymergy@suds.com> wrote:
On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 12:05:53 -0600, KIP <not@foruse.org> wrote:
Me and my wife test drove a 2001 A6 2.7T 6M and found a couple of
glitches which I would like to share with the group. The steering
wheel does not provide a reasonable response even in turns, and
the gas pedal is so light that you do not feel any resistance at
all. As far as I know it is a 'drive-by-wire' system, not a direct
link, and it might be a cause of the problem.
Subaru is a lot cheaper than Audi, so do consider it (advice from
someone with a 1999 Legacy Outback and a 1998 Audi A4 2.8Q), but
these
two features of the car you drove are not normal for an Audi. Pass
on
that car and find a different Audi.
2001 A6s are coming off lease, and those with a stick shift are rare,
at
least in my area. Only two of them are near by. Not too many choices
unfortunately. I'll try to look onto another one later this week.
Then ask yourself whether having a stick-shift is a
real requirement, or just a prejudice or superstition
from another time. There isn't anything a stick-shift
can do that an automatic cannot -- especially one like
Audi's Tiptronic, which you can always drive as if it
were a stick without having to worry about replacing
clutches.
dk
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Tue Oct 18, 2005 11:19 pm Post subject:
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I had a 2001 A6 2.7T for four years and sold it to get the new A6. I
thought the 2001 was an excellent driver's car, and had no problem with
steering feedback, etc. The Tiptronic was another matter, because in 2001,
at least for the US, they shut out the ability to shift down to first gear,
or to start in first unless you mashed the accelerator. Frankly the A6 was
probably still the best sedan that year, but the second gear thing was
really annoying, and all to satisfy CAFE standards. |
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