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KIP
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Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 11:05 pm    Post subject: To the owners of A6 Reply with quote

Me and my wife test drove a 2001 A6 2.7T 6M and found a couple of
glitches which I would like to share with the group. The steering
wheel does not provide a reasonable response even in turns, and
the gas pedal is so light that you do not feel any resistance at
all. As far as I know it is a 'drive-by-wire' system, not a direct
link, and it might be a cause of the problem.

Other then these two problems the car is fine. The shifter is good,
the clutch has the right feel too. My question is: are all last
generation A6s like this or this particular car is problematic? If
not all A6s like this then I either ask the dealer to fix this one
or will be looking for another one. In case if this is an original
design, then I feel sorry for you guys, you drive a piece of junk.

My wife wants a medium sized car, preferably AWD, and a manual
shifter is a must. The choices are very limited: Audi and Subaru.
They fall into different categories though, but we test drove a new
250 HP Legacy right after we tested a new 530 BMW, and to our
surprise we both found that the Lecacy's handling is very similar
to a BMW's, very precise and responsive, it is a good driver's machine.
We are not ready for a Subaru yet, but we might consider one if
an Audi is not an option.

Thanks for reading,
Vlad

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Randy S
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Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 11:54 pm    Post subject: Re: To the owners of A6 Reply with quote

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In case if this is an original design,
then I feel sorry for you guys, you drive a piece of junk.


Winning attitude there, idiot. I don't even own an Audi, and I take
offense to you stating your opinion as fact. I suppose that I could state as
fact that anyone named "Vlad" is an asshole. Give me a break, you come to an
Audi forum to ask help from mostly Audi owners and you insult them while asking
them for feedback. Smart move.

Randy
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KLS
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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 12:47 am    Post subject: Re: To the owners of A6 Reply with quote

On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 12:05:53 -0600, KIP <not@foruse.org> wrote:

Quote:
Me and my wife test drove a 2001 A6 2.7T 6M and found a couple of
glitches which I would like to share with the group. The steering
wheel does not provide a reasonable response even in turns, and
the gas pedal is so light that you do not feel any resistance at
all. As far as I know it is a 'drive-by-wire' system, not a direct
link, and it might be a cause of the problem.

Subaru is a lot cheaper than Audi, so do consider it (advice from
someone with a 1999 Legacy Outback and a 1998 Audi A4 2.8Q), but these
two features of the car you drove are not normal for an Audi. Pass on
that car and find a different Audi.

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KIP
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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 1:39 am    Post subject: Re: To the owners of A6 Reply with quote

Randy S <mikado95@aol.com> wrote:
Quote:
In case if this is an original design,
then I feel sorry for you guys, you drive a piece of junk.

You have a mental problem, I'm sorry for you, have a good life then

Quote:
Winning attitude there, idiot. I don't even own an Audi, and I take
offense to you stating your opinion as fact. I suppose that I could state as
fact that anyone named "Vlad" is an asshole. Give me a break, you come to an
Audi forum to ask help from mostly Audi owners and you insult them while asking
them for feedback. Smart move.

Randy
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Pete
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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 1:43 am    Post subject: Re: To the owners of A6 Reply with quote

"KIP"
Quote:
Me and my wife test drove a 2001 A6 2.7T 6M and found a couple of
glitches which I would like to share with the group. The steering
wheel does not provide a reasonable response even in turns,

What size tires/rims do you have?


Quote:
In case if this is an original
design, then I feel sorry for you guys, you drive a piece of junk.

Sounds like you're the one with a piece of junk. My A4 doesn't suffer
from either one of these problems. See if you can have someone (dealer
or an indy shop) look at the car. Maybe it needs an alignment. And
maybe the gas pedal stiffness can be adjusted.


Quote:
My wife wants a medium sized car, preferably AWD, and a manual
shifter is a must. The choices are very limited: Audi and Subaru.

Volvo S60R comes with a manual tranny. Not sure how good their AWD
system is though.

Cheers,

Pete
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KIP
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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 2:12 am    Post subject: Re: To the owners of A6 Reply with quote

KLS <xymergy@suds.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 12:05:53 -0600, KIP <not@foruse.org> wrote:

Me and my wife test drove a 2001 A6 2.7T 6M and found a couple of
glitches which I would like to share with the group. The steering
wheel does not provide a reasonable response even in turns, and
the gas pedal is so light that you do not feel any resistance at
all. As far as I know it is a 'drive-by-wire' system, not a direct
link, and it might be a cause of the problem.

Subaru is a lot cheaper than Audi, so do consider it (advice from
someone with a 1999 Legacy Outback and a 1998 Audi A4 2.8Q), but these
two features of the car you drove are not normal for an Audi. Pass on
that car and find a different Audi.

2001 A6s are coming off lease, and those with a stick shift are rare, at
least in my area. Only two of them are near by. Not too many choices
unfortunately. I'll try to look onto another one later this week.

Vlad
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Dave LaCourse
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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 4:18 am    Post subject: Re: To the owners of A6 Reply with quote

I've been driving A6s for many years, dating back to when they were 5000 series
(then 100/200). I have never had the troubles you speak of. I would search
for a different Audi, because that one is acting strangely. Consider the A6
with the 4.2 engine and Tiptronic xmsn. Great car.

I owned a Suby one time. Broke it within a year. Traded it in for a VW
Synchro (Audi engine/running gear).

Dave
RS6
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Ronny
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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 4:31 am    Post subject: Re: To the owners of A6 Reply with quote

"Dave LaCourse" <davplac@aol.comPirate> wrote in message
news:20041221181806.09660.00001697@mb-m20.aol.com...
Quote:
I've been driving A6s for many years, dating back to when they were 5000
series
(then 100/200). I have never had the troubles you speak of. I would
search
for a different Audi, because that one is acting strangely. Consider the
A6
with the 4.2 engine and Tiptronic xmsn. Great car.

I owned a Suby one time. Broke it within a year. Traded it in for a VW
Synchro (Audi engine/running gear).

Was that a Passat or a Bora/Jetta ? Sychro was the name given to the older

VW's 4wd system, which they now call 4-motion over here, if it was a Bora
how did you find the Haldex Vs Torsen, as you now have RS?

I've never driven a Haldex 4wd but can't imagine I would feel as secure as I
do in my A4.

Ronny
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Dave LaCourse
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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 7:51 am    Post subject: Re: To the owners of A6 Reply with quote

Ronny writes:

Quote:
Was that a Passat or a Bora/Jetta ?

It was an 86 Quantum Synchro with an Audi five cylinder and an Audi transaxle.
It was the same as an Audi 4000 except with a VW wagon body. Great car.
Joanne and I rallied in it for several years, finally giving it to my
son-in-law when we bought a 90 5 cylinder Turbo 200 wagon.

Sychro was the name given to the older
Quote:
VW's 4wd system, which they now call 4-motion over here, if it was a Bora
how did you find the Haldex Vs Torsen, as you now have RS?

I believe the Quantun had Torsen also, I may be wrong, but I believe it had
the same running gear as an Audi, and not one of VW's engine/transaxle.

Quote:

I've never driven a Haldex 4wd but can't imagine I would feel as secure as I
do in my A4.

Ronny

Love the RS6. Just coming up on 15K joy filled miles. It embarasses the hell
out of most Corvettes and Porsches, but blasting STS "Dudes" is about as much
fun as you can have in any car.
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Ronny
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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 2:06 pm    Post subject: Re: To the owners of A6 Reply with quote

"Dave LaCourse" <davplac@aol.comPirate> wrote in message
news:20041221221419.06016.00001492@mb-m21.aol.com...
Quote:
Ronny writes:

Was that a Passat or a Bora/Jetta ?

It was an 86 Quantum Synchro with an Audi five cylinder and an Audi
transaxle.
It was the same as an Audi 4000 except with a VW wagon body. Great car.
Joanne and I rallied in it for several years, finally giving it to my
son-in-law when we bought a 90 5 cylinder Turbo 200 wagon.

Sychro was the name given to the older
VW's 4wd system, which they now call 4-motion over here, if it was a Bora
how did you find the Haldex Vs Torsen, as you now have RS?

I believe the Quantun had Torsen also, I may be wrong, but I believe it
had
the same running gear as an Audi, and not one of VW's engine/transaxle.


I've never driven a Haldex 4wd but can't imagine I would feel as secure as
I
do in my A4.

Ronny

Love the RS6. Just coming up on 15K joy filled miles. It embarasses the
hell
out of most Corvettes and Porsches, but blasting STS "Dudes" is about as
much
fun as you can have in any car.



:) - one day maybe

Till then I gotta stick to a 1.8T quattro, which isn't such a bad thing
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Dave LaCourse
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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 7:21 pm    Post subject: Re: To the owners of A6 Reply with quote

Ronny writes:

Quote:
:) - one day maybe

Till then I gotta stick to a 1.8T quattro, which isn't such a bad thing

Operative word being "quattro". I've driven a friends 1.8T and it's a lot of
fun.

When you get to be an old geezer and the kids are edumacated and the house is
paid off, *then* ya can get that RS6. I never would have made it to old
geezerhood if I had an RS6 when I was 21.

d;o)
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cp
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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 9:51 pm    Post subject: Re: To the owners of A6 Reply with quote

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or will be looking for another one. In case if this is an original
design, then I feel sorry for you guys, you drive a piece of junk.

A piece of junk because of that? Perhaps you are the one with the mental
problem? A piece of junk is a Lada or a Zaporozhets, not some design
peculiarity in a car such as the A6.

Ti ruski? Nye priyezhdzhai v innuyu stranu ludyei visivat'. With a name like
'vlad' you must be Russian/Ukrainian, couldn't imagine Americans naming
their kid 'vlad'; I suggest you don't insult people in a country where you are
an immigrant.

cp
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Rune Skigelstrand
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Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 2:03 am    Post subject: Re: To the owners of A6 Reply with quote

"Pete" wrote in message

Quote:
Volvo S60R comes with a manual tranny. Not sure how good their AWD system
is though.

Check out this test performed by a german TV-channel:
http://www.supercars.de/html/related_link/related.html?link=853

Quattro obviously "rules".

Regards
Rune
-98 A6 Avant/Q 2.8 Tip
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Pete
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Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 3:01 am    Post subject: Re: To the owners of A6 Reply with quote

"Rune Skigelstrand" wrote
Quote:

Check out this test performed by a german TV-channel:
http://www.supercars.de/html/related_link/related.html?link=853

Quattro obviously "rules".

And this "test" is obviously rigged. I commented on this video a few
days ago - you might be able to find my post in this newsgroup.

Cheers,

Pete
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Dan Koren
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Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 7:52 am    Post subject: Re: To the owners of A6 Reply with quote

"KIP" <not@foruse.org> wrote in message
news:i46dnbaUYIcgDFXcRVn-sg@rcn.net...
Quote:
KLS <xymergy@suds.com> wrote:
On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 12:05:53 -0600, KIP <not@foruse.org> wrote:

Me and my wife test drove a 2001 A6 2.7T 6M and found a couple of
glitches which I would like to share with the group. The steering
wheel does not provide a reasonable response even in turns, and
the gas pedal is so light that you do not feel any resistance at
all. As far as I know it is a 'drive-by-wire' system, not a direct
link, and it might be a cause of the problem.

Subaru is a lot cheaper than Audi, so do consider it (advice from
someone with a 1999 Legacy Outback and a 1998 Audi A4 2.8Q), but these
two features of the car you drove are not normal for an Audi. Pass on
that car and find a different Audi.

2001 A6s are coming off lease, and those with a stick shift are rare, at
least in my area. Only two of them are near by. Not too many choices
unfortunately. I'll try to look onto another one later this week.



Then ask yourself whether having a stick-shift is a
real requirement, or just a prejudice or superstition
from another time. There isn't anything a stick-shift
can do that an automatic cannot -- especially one like
Audi's Tiptronic, which you can always drive as if it
were a stick without having to worry about replacing
clutches.



dk
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