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Spiderman
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Sat Dec 18, 2004 1:13 am Post subject:
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I think the shop slightly overfilled my oil crankcase at the last oil change
on my 1989 Chevy S10 Blazer 4.3L 4x4....the dipstick is reading "off the
charts" and when I'm parked I get a small drip of very watery brown fluid (I
assume it's overfrothed oil) under the engine compartment. The fluid is not
warm and is very watery so I don't believe this fluid has been thru the
engine. Can a slightly overfilled crankcase cause any permanent damage? I
assume the excess will just drip out?
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Willy Wanka
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Sat Dec 18, 2004 1:26 am Post subject:
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<chop>
| Quote: | engine. Can a slightly overfilled crankcase cause any permanent damage? I
assume the excess will just drip out?
A little bit won't hurt but,,,, if it is way over full your crankshaft will |
have to fight it's way through the oil so your mileage and power will
suffer. I lost a fuelpump diaphram on a 327 once and filled the crankcase
with gas. Had one hell of a leak, out the dipstick, oil filler cap, blew pcv
out. Sure smoked a lot too.
Willy |
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\"Doc\"
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Sat Dec 18, 2004 1:46 am Post subject:
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"Spiderman" <spiderman@spiderman.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I think the shop slightly overfilled my oil crankcase at the last oil
change on my 1989 Chevy S10 Blazer 4.3L 4x4....the dipstick is reading "off
the charts" and when I'm parked I get a small drip of very watery brown
fluid (I assume it's overfrothed oil) under the engine compartment. The
fluid is not warm and is very watery so I don't believe this fluid has been
thru the engine. Can a slightly overfilled crankcase cause any permanent
damage? I assume the excess will just drip out?
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How far (in inches) over the full mark is it?
Doc
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Spiderman
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Sat Dec 18, 2004 1:48 am Post subject:
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"Willy Wanka" <willywanka@redram.com> wrote in message
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engine. Can a slightly overfilled crankcase cause any permanent damage? I
assume the excess will just drip out?
A little bit won't hurt but,,,, if it is way over full your crankshaft
will have to fight it's way through the oil so your mileage and power will
suffer. I lost a fuelpump diaphram on a 327 once and filled the crankcase
with gas. Had one hell of a leak, out the dipstick, oil filler cap, blew
pcv out. Sure smoked a lot too.
Willy
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Thanks for the quick reply. The engine sounds/runs normal (i.e. great) and
the tailpipe emissions are normal (clear). I love the 4.3 Vortec...just
wanted to make sure nothing damages my "baby". haha |
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Spiderman
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Sat Dec 18, 2004 1:51 am Post subject:
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""Doc"" <noway@nope.com> wrote in message
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"Spiderman" <spiderman@spiderman.com> wrote in message
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I think the shop slightly overfilled my oil crankcase at the last oil
change on my 1989 Chevy S10 Blazer 4.3L 4x4....the dipstick is reading
"off the charts" and when I'm parked I get a small drip of very watery
brown fluid (I assume it's overfrothed oil) under the engine compartment.
The fluid is not warm and is very watery so I don't believe this fluid has
been thru the engine. Can a slightly overfilled crankcase cause any
permanent damage? I assume the excess will just drip out?
How far (in inches) over the full mark is it?
Doc
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I didn't measure it but its past the FULL mark...but not so far as to ride
up the stem of the dipstick. |
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\"Doc\"
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Sat Dec 18, 2004 1:57 am Post subject:
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"Spiderman" <spiderman@spiderman.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | How far (in inches) over the full mark is it?
Doc
I didn't measure it but its past the FULL mark...but not so far as to ride
up the stem of the dipstick.
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Ok, there is about 2 FEET of dipstick above the full mark. GUESTIMATE how
far over the full mark the oil level is. 1/2" is a lot different than 2".
Doc |
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Sat Dec 18, 2004 2:20 am Post subject:
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So what's the problem? If it is over filled, either do it
yourself, take you vehicle to a shop, remove the oil, refill with
the proper amount of oil, end of problem.
mike hunt
Spiderman wrote:
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I think the shop slightly overfilled my oil crankcase at the last oil change
on my 1989 Chevy S10 Blazer 4.3L 4x4....the dipstick is reading "off the
charts" and when I'm parked I get a small drip of very watery brown fluid (I
assume it's overfrothed oil) under the engine compartment. The fluid is not
warm and is very watery so I don't believe this fluid has been thru the
engine. Can a slightly overfilled crankcase cause any permanent damage? I
assume the excess will just drip out? |
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Woody
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Sat Dec 18, 2004 3:26 am Post subject:
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All the above said if the oil is too high it will be turned to foam by the
crankshaft and the bearings will be starved of oil and burn up. If it is
more than 1/2 inch above full drain it and fill correctly...
"Spiderman" <spiderman@spiderman.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I think the shop slightly overfilled my oil crankcase at the last oil
change on my 1989 Chevy S10 Blazer 4.3L 4x4....the dipstick is reading "off
the charts" and when I'm parked I get a small drip of very watery brown
fluid (I assume it's overfrothed oil) under the engine compartment. The
fluid is not warm and is very watery so I don't believe this fluid has been
thru the engine. Can a slightly overfilled crankcase cause any permanent
damage? I assume the excess will just drip out?
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Spiderman
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Sat Dec 18, 2004 5:16 am Post subject:
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""Doc"" <noway@nope.com> wrote in message
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"Spiderman" <spiderman@spiderman.com> wrote in message
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How far (in inches) over the full mark is it?
Doc
I didn't measure it but its past the FULL mark...but not so far as to
ride up the stem of the dipstick.
Ok, there is about 2 FEET of dipstick above the full mark. GUESTIMATE how
far over the full mark the oil level is. 1/2" is a lot different than 2".
Doc
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Sorry hehe....it's about 1/2" over the full mark. What's the diagnosis, Doc? |
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\"Doc\"
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Sat Dec 18, 2004 5:25 am Post subject:
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"Spiderman" <spiderman@spiderman.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I didn't measure it but its past the FULL mark...but not so far as to
ride up the stem of the dipstick.
Ok, there is about 2 FEET of dipstick above the full mark. GUESTIMATE
how far over the full mark the oil level is. 1/2" is a lot different
than 2".
Doc
Sorry hehe....it's about 1/2" over the full mark. What's the diagnosis,
Doc?
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It's fine. Your truck takes about 4.75 qts and they likely just added 5
qts. 1/2" over "full" ain't going to hurt anything.
Doc
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Lawrence Glickman
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Sat Dec 18, 2004 5:28 am Post subject:
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On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 19:16:35 -0500, "Spiderman"
<spiderman@spiderman.com> wrote:
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""Doc"" <noway@nope.com> wrote in message
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"Spiderman" <spiderman@spiderman.com> wrote in message
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How far (in inches) over the full mark is it?
Doc
I didn't measure it but its past the FULL mark...but not so far as to
ride up the stem of the dipstick.
Ok, there is about 2 FEET of dipstick above the full mark. GUESTIMATE how
far over the full mark the oil level is. 1/2" is a lot different than 2".
Doc
Sorry hehe....it's about 1/2" over the full mark. What's the diagnosis, Doc?
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The diagnosis is "Nitwitcity"
IOW, you paid Mr Goodwrench to screw up your vehicle. The crankshaft
can churn the oil causing it to become entrained with air bubbles, and
this is not a good thing for your main bearings.
Dump the extra, do it now. And don't go back to the jerk you paid to
screw up your ride.
Lg |
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SgtSilicon
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Sat Dec 18, 2004 5:50 am Post subject:
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Slight overfill... probably not. More than slight... maybe. I've
read that over filling can lead to rear or front bearing seal failure.
Failed seals can lead to well, let the experts in here tell you.
On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 15:13:58 -0500, "Spiderman"
<spiderman@spiderman.com> wrote:
| Quote: | I think the shop slightly overfilled my oil crankcase at the last oil change
on my 1989 Chevy S10 Blazer 4.3L 4x4....the dipstick is reading "off the
charts" and when I'm parked I get a small drip of very watery brown fluid (I
assume it's overfrothed oil) under the engine compartment. The fluid is not
warm and is very watery so I don't believe this fluid has been thru the
engine. Can a slightly overfilled crankcase cause any permanent damage? I
assume the excess will just drip out?
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SgtSilicon
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Sat Dec 18, 2004 5:50 am Post subject:
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Best advice right here. Can't hurt to to have the correct amount of
oil, and it's not too tough to let a bit out.
On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 02:13:15 GMT, Ken Weitzel <kweitzel@shaw.ca>
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johanb wrote:
"Spiderman" <spiderman@spiderman.com> wrote in message
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Hmmm....I wonder who's right? The Doc (leave it alone) or Lg (dump the
oil)?
I hope for you it is "doc"
Or you can just take it out / have it taken out and spend a $ 19.95 on a oil
change
Or a couple of thousand on a motor
You do the math..............
Johan
Hi...
Maybe I'm over-simplifying... but the oil's new; why replace it?
Why not just loosen the plug and let a bit out? Heck,
clean the drain pan thoroughly first and save what you remove
for a top-up.
Course I am from the waste not want not generation :)
Ken
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el Diablo
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Sat Dec 18, 2004 5:50 am Post subject:
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"Spiderman" <spiderman@spiderman.com> wrote in message
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"Lawrence Glickman" <Lawrence_Glickman@comcast.net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 19:16:35 -0500, "Spiderman"
spiderman@spiderman.com> wrote:
""Doc"" <noway@nope.com> wrote in message
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"Spiderman" <spiderman@spiderman.com> wrote in message
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How far (in inches) over the full mark is it?
Doc
I didn't measure it but its past the FULL mark...but not so far as to
ride up the stem of the dipstick.
Ok, there is about 2 FEET of dipstick above the full mark. GUESTIMATE
how
far over the full mark the oil level is. 1/2" is a lot different than
2".
Doc
Sorry hehe....it's about 1/2" over the full mark. What's the diagnosis,
Doc?
The diagnosis is "Nitwitcity"
IOW, you paid Mr Goodwrench to screw up your vehicle. The crankshaft
can churn the oil causing it to become entrained with air bubbles, and
this is not a good thing for your main bearings.
Dump the extra, do it now. And don't go back to the jerk you paid to
screw up your ride.
Lg
Hmmm....I wonder who's right? The Doc (leave it alone) or Lg (dump the
oil)?
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Doc's right, as long as it's no more than 1/2" over full your OK. My 1994
Z34 has the 3.4 liter motor that takes a small oil filter and the manual
states 5-1/2 qts. with a filter change. I've put 6 qts. in it ever time I've
changed the oil. The motor has 126,000 fairly hard miles on it and runs like
new still.
Brian |
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Spiderman
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Sat Dec 18, 2004 5:50 am Post subject:
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Wouldn't the oil smell like gas then? It still smells like oil. Also, the
fuel gauge hasn't moved down abnormally.
I am going to side with Doc on this, 1/2" over the full mark wont hurt a
thing, like he said they put 5 qts instead of 4.5 qts in.(based on the 90
some odd oil changes my 91 has had in its 202,000 mile life time) 1/2 qt
aint going to hurt a 4.3, the oil level still wont be close to the crank
so
no frothing at the dip stick to worry about..
I got a kick out of how these threads get all bent out of shape, Spider
don't worry about a fuel pump diaphragm because your truck doesn't have
one,
its fuel injected and has an electric fuel pump mounted in the tank.
And where did he say anywhere in his posts that he took it of Mr.
Goodwrench?
Given you have a 4X4, removing the oil filter usually results in some
spilt
oil on the frame and skid plate, the drips in the drive way are probably
from that. Good shop would have cleaned it up.
Whitelightning
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I originally asked the question because I did not want to waste fresh oil
for no good reason....and in my case, it looks like there isn't one. I
looked under the hood and DID notice some oil dripping down the skid
plate....like you said, it must have gotten spilt when they changed the
filter. I wiped up the excess and hopefully that will be the end of the
little oil drips! Thanks....very good and sensible post (just what I was
looking for)! |
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