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Jake
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Tue Dec 06, 2005 1:38 am Post subject:
GM'S Istar |
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GM wants $20.00 per mth for someone to tell you how to go from one
location to another,
It's just not worth the cost. most folks know were they are going and
how to get to their destination... (like if you don't know how to
drive to work or vacation, then you got problems.)
plus if they do need assistance they can call either the AAA or CAA or
learn to read a road map.
for a lot less dollars...
the computer software in most auto navigation maps are all outdated in
a year or so, and just not worth the cost of replacement every other
year.
There is a new law coming down the road next year, no more analog
signals, every one will be switching to digital,
that will make most of todays computer navigation equipment in
to-days auto's useless. if they are installed in you car you won't be
able to use them.
buyer beware. were has all the quality gone...
cheers
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Steve Mackie
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Tue Dec 06, 2005 2:37 am Post subject:
Re: GM'S Istar |
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| Quote: | GM wants $20.00 per mth for someone to tell you how to go from one
location to another,
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<snip the nonsense>
1. It's OnStar not IStar, this shows how misinformed you are.
2. The basic package is $16.95US/mo ($199/a)and the directions package is
$34.95US/mo ($399/a).
3. OnStar has a lot more safety orientated features than AAA or CAA could
ever provide. Let's take a look:
-CAA/AAA will never know when your airbags are deployed.
-CAA/AAA has to dispatch a tow truck to unlock your doors for you.
-CAA/AAA will not even look for your car if it's stolen.
-CAA/AAA will not provide you with 911 type services at the touch of a
button.
-For $69.95US/mo OnStar will provide you with a secretary! Let's see CAA/AAA
do that.
4. Get informed and if you don't like it, don't buy it.
Personally, I'd give my left nut to have OnStar just for the Safety and
Security features.
Steve |
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John Horner
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Tue Dec 06, 2005 7:15 am Post subject:
Re: GM'S Istar |
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Jake wrote:
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that will make most of todays computer navigation equipment in
to-days auto's useless. if they are installed in you car you won't be
able to use them.
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Most Onstar equipped vehicles are at risk of loosing service when analog
cell phone shuts down. This will start happening in the US in January
2008.
Real navigation systems with an in-car LCD display do not use the cell
phone connection and will not be effected.
John
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Jake
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Tue Dec 06, 2005 8:47 am Post subject:
Re: GM'S Istar |
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The only nut you have is between your ears.
by 2008 Onstar will be useless, the computer software that GM uses in
Onstar navigating about nine years old.
On Mon, 05 Dec 2005 20:37:28 GMT, "Steve Mackie"
<stevemackie@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:
| Quote: | GM wants $20.00 per mth for someone to tell you how to go from one
location to another,
snip the nonsense
1. It's OnStar not ONstar, this shows how misinformed you are.
2. The basic package is $16.95US/mo ($199/a)and the directions package is
$34.95US/mo ($399/a).
3. OnStar has a lot more safety orientated features than AAA or CAA could
ever provide. Let's take a look:
-CAA/AAA will never know when your airbags are deployed. (THEY WILL WHEN I CALL THEM)
-CAA/AAA has to dispatch a tow truck to unlock your doors for you.
-CAA/AAA will not even look for your car if it's stolen. (IF ITS STOLEN i GOT THEFT INSURANCE.)
-CAA/AAA will not provide you with 911 type services at the touch of a (I can call them on my cell phone)
button.
-For $69.95US/mo OnStar will provide you with a secretary! Let's see CAA/AAA ( I already have a secretary)
do that.
4. Get informed and if you don't like it, don't buy it. ( don't worry about it, I won' buy it)
Personally, I'd give my left nut to have OnStar just for the Safety and
Security features.
Steve
since you just have one I suggest you save it. |
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Jake
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Tue Dec 06, 2005 8:53 am Post subject:
Re: GM'S Istar |
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I cannot see anyone pay for Onstar, its history after 2008.
I do prefer the lcd display.
cheers...
On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 01:15:01 GMT, John Horner <jthorner@yahoo.com>
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| Quote: | Jake wrote:
that will make most of todays computer navigation equipment in
to-days auto's useless. if they are installed in you car you won't be
able to use them.
Most Onstar equipped vehicles are at risk of loosing service when analog
cell phone shuts down. This will start happening in the US in January
2008.
Real navigation systems with an in-car LCD display do not use the cell
phone connection and will not be effected.
John |
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StingRay
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Tue Dec 06, 2005 8:54 am Post subject:
Re: GM'S Istar |
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"John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:pC5lf.954$EB3.142@trnddc09...
| Quote: | Jake wrote:
that will make most of todays computer navigation equipment in
to-days auto's useless. if they are installed in you car you won't be
able to use them.
Most Onstar equipped vehicles are at risk of loosing service when analog
cell phone shuts down. This will start happening in the US in January
2008.
Real navigation systems with an in-car LCD display do not use the cell
phone connection and will not be effected.
John
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John, I don't believe that is the case. It is my understanding that as with
many cell phones, OnStar uses both analog & digital signals. Actually, while
typing this comment, I visited the OnStar site and have confirmed that
OnStar now uses Analog/Digital (Dual Mode). Here's the scoop, under the
heading "OnStar Equipment" :
http://www.onstar.com/us_english/jsp/explore/onstar_basics/technology.jsp |
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Steve Mackie
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Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:03 am Post subject:
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| Quote: | John, I don't believe that is the case. It is my understanding that as
with
many cell phones, OnStar uses both analog & digital signals. Actually,
while
typing this comment, I visited the OnStar site and have confirmed that
OnStar now uses Analog/Digital (Dual Mode). Here's the scoop, under the
heading "OnStar Equipment" :
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Yes, but the older cars that were only analogue will cease to work once the
system is 100% digital.
As noted here: http://tinyurl.com/8freg
Steve |
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Steve Mackie
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Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:04 am Post subject:
Re: GM'S Istar |
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| Quote: | The only nut you have is between your ears.
by 2008 Onstar will be useless, the computer software that GM uses in
Onstar navigating about nine years old.
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What's your point. |
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StingRay
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Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:15 am Post subject:
Re: GM'S Istar |
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"Steve Mackie" <stevemackie@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:nc7lf.134903$Ph4.4122596@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
| Quote: | Yes, but the older cars that were only analogue will cease to work once
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system is 100% digital.
As noted here: http://tinyurl.com/8freg
Steve
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I was aware of that Steve and in fact, it was set out in the link I provided
John Horner to OnStar's website. My response was intended to address John's
comments, "Most Onstar equipped vehicles are at risk of loosing service
when analog cell phone shuts down. This will start happening in the US in
January 2008." , by pointing out to him that "OnStar now uses Analog/Digital
(Dual Mode)." |
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Steve Mackie
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Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:15 am Post subject:
Re: GM'S Istar |
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| Quote: | I cannot see anyone pay for Onstar, its history after 2008.
I do prefer the lcd display.
cheers...
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I prefer the LCD display as well. OnStar is not history after 2008. Read the
posts between 'stingray' and I, visit the links. You will see, older OnStar
vehicles that are analogue only will not work after 2008, but OnStar systems
are now Digital/Analogue capable so they will continue to work after the
100% digital requirement.
Steve |
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StingRay
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Wed Dec 07, 2005 9:14 am Post subject:
Re: GM'S Istar |
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"Steve Mackie" <stevemackie@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:jOtlf.135465$Ph4.4138274@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
| Quote: | Remember LaserDiscs? There was a short lived technology.
Steve
LMAO! I sure do! Thank Gawd my wife talked me out of buying one. They were |
amazing quality when they came out and I was sure they were the next video
breakthrough. Ooops! |
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Steve Mackie
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Wed Dec 07, 2005 9:15 am Post subject:
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| Quote: | As far as I can tell, GM didn't start putting in dual mode capable sets
until 2003 or 2004, it is hard to find a straight answer. I am told that
for our 2002 Olds I am SOL. Somehow buying a feature in 2002 which will
become useless only six years later seems highly unsatisfactory to me, and
GM certainly didn't warn me when I bought my car that the Onstar feature
would stop working in six years.
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Funny how that works, you know, technology, the way it keeps advancing.
Seems like only 4 years ago I bought 1.5GB of SDRAM for my computer, once I
need a new motherboard I'm going to have to buy all new RAM because my old
stuff won't work in new motherboards. Damnit computer manufacturers sticking
it to the customer.
Someone mentioned Beta, how long did that last anyways? 4-6 years? Maybe? I
remember my Aunt bought a Beta VCR for big buck in the early-mid 80s and
once VHS came out they couldn't give Beta away.
Remember LaserDiscs? There was a short lived technology.
Just deal with it, no one is sticking it to anyone, and as someone else
stated, it's the cell companies that started the switch from analogue to
digital.
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StingRay
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Wed Dec 07, 2005 9:15 am Post subject:
Re: GM'S Istar |
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"John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | As far as I can tell, GM didn't start putting in dual mode capable sets
until 2003 or 2004, it is hard to find a straight answer. I am told that
for our 2002 Olds I am SOL. Somehow buying a feature in 2002 which will
become useless only six years later seems highly unsatisfactory to me, and
GM certainly didn't warn me when I bought my car that the Onstar feature
would stop working in six years.
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And RCA didn't warn you that your betamax would become obsolete when VHS
came out. And VHS would become obsolete with the advent of DVD. That's the
way technology goes John.
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Once again, GM sticks it to it's customers IMO.
John
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John, you appear to have lost focus here. My response was to your comment:
"Most Onstar equipped vehicles are at risk of loosing service when analog
cell phone shuts down. This will start happening in the US in January
2008." That is clearly not the case . Now swallow your pride John and say
"Okay gang, I screwed up". ;-)
I've got a buck that says you don't have the cajones to swallow your pride
on this. ;-) |
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Brad Clarke
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Wed Dec 07, 2005 9:15 am Post subject:
Re: GM'S Istar |
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On Wed, 07 Dec 2005 03:36:51 GMT, John Horner <jthorner@yahoo.com>
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| Quote: | As far as I can tell, GM didn't start putting in dual mode capable sets
until 2003 or 2004, it is hard to find a straight answer. I am told
that for our 2002 Olds I am SOL. Somehow buying a feature in 2002
which will become useless only six years later seems highly
unsatisfactory to me, and GM certainly didn't warn me when I bought my
car that the Onstar feature would stop working in six years.
Once again, GM sticks it to it's customers IMO.
This one you can blame more on the cellular companies....they are the |
ones that are getting rid of analog cell coverage. |
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John Horner
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Wed Dec 07, 2005 9:15 am Post subject:
Re: GM'S Istar |
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Steve Mackie wrote:
| Quote: | I cannot see anyone pay for Onstar, its history after 2008.
I do prefer the lcd display.
cheers...
I prefer the LCD display as well. OnStar is not history after 2008. Read the
posts between 'stingray' and I, visit the links. You will see, older OnStar
vehicles that are analogue only will not work after 2008, but OnStar systems
are now Digital/Analogue capable so they will continue to work after the
100% digital requirement.
Steve
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Older is sure a relative term. We are not talking 20 year old vehicles
here, but cars which were sold as recently as two or three years ago.
John |
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