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Gord Beaman
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Fri Dec 09, 2005 1:08 am Post subject:
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"Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote:
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"Gord Beaman" <gord@islandtelecom.com> wrote in message
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"Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote:
"Gord Beaman" <gord@islandtelecom.com> wrote in message
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"Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote:
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If there's 'nothing faulty about the separator' then why is the
company changing it?
...because it is easier to change it than clean it...
Well hell, it's likely easier to change 'the oil filter' than to
clean it also but you seldom see the company change it with no
charge do you now?...
-Gord.
A highly faulty analogy.
It is indeed not...Christ, where's your reading comprehension?
Who do you suppose paid/subsidized the cost of
repairing those few "gelled" engines? There is no such thing as "free"
except in the mind of a socialist. There is only cost shifting.
Obfuscation, pure and simple...this has nothing to do with the
subject at hand...please pay attention...
Don't go trying to change the subject here...you stated that
there was 'nothing faulty about the separator' and I maintain
that there is...simple, deal with it...
-Gord.
You have your opinion rooted in ignorance. I have a couple of Toyota TSBs
on the subject and practical experience which you lack. Deal with it.
You're making a horse's arse of yourself by refusing to admit a
simple error...smarten up for chrissake...pretty bad character
flaw you have there mister...does not look good on you at all.
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-Gord.
There is no error. There is only poor ol Gord living in denial.
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*I'm* in denial?!?...An absolutely *amazing* assessment!...
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-Gord.
(use gordon in email)
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Gord Beaman
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Fri Dec 09, 2005 1:24 am Post subject:
Re: 2000 Avalon - SLUDGE Story |
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"Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote:
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"Gord Beaman" <gord@islandtelecom.com> wrote in message
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"Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote:
I've have addressed and accurately shown your propensity to infer what is
not stated is quite intact. You owe me an apology ... a payment I have no
expectation of receiving. :^P
In a pig's arse philip, in a pig's arse...you really don't care
what people think of you do you?...poor under endowed little
guy...
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-Gord.
"People"? How many people are still resident inside your head?
Since this is at least the 2nd personal barb you've hurled, I've won on the
facts.
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Personal barbs?...I'm a holy terror aren't I?...mothers cover
their kiddies ears while in my presence...
Facts?...judging by your recent use of them you wouldn't
recognize a fact if one reared up and bit you on the arse...
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-Gord.
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larry moe 'n curly
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Fri Dec 09, 2005 2:10 am Post subject:
Re: 2000 Avalon - SLUDGE Story |
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FanJet wrote:
| Quote: | larry moe 'n curly wrote:
I asked Ford and Chrysler how they rated their dealers and which were
the highest-rated ones in my area, but both refused to provide any
information, but I know that one 5-star Chrysler dealer, Bill Luke, is
pretty bad at diagnosing problems, even if they replace every part in
the vehicle. Also ABC Nissan has bribed customers for perfect scores
by giving them free oil changes.
And, of course, there are many who could name several Toyota dealerships
with the same flaws. Point?
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Their cars are less likely to break down, and it seems that the company
isn't as stingy about reimbursing its dealers for warranty work, at
least compared to Ford.
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Philip
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Fri Dec 09, 2005 2:59 am Post subject:
Re: 2000 Avalon - SLUDGE Story |
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"Gord Beaman" <gord@islandtelecom.com> wrote in message
news:sgcep1p1ibghgii4lof1ri6mle2kd0d90a@4ax.com...
| Quote: | "Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote:
"Gord Beaman" <gord@islandtelecom.com> wrote in message
news:1rpcp15dp9bmad92u6ggfo0dchch1bk1hm@4ax.com...
"Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote:
"Gord Beaman" <gord@islandtelecom.com> wrote in message
news:f46ap1lfnjpipaqljtg98ea5gein9m88ld@4ax.com...
"Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote:
snip
If there's 'nothing faulty about the separator' then why is the
company changing it?
...because it is easier to change it than clean it...
Well hell, it's likely easier to change 'the oil filter' than to
clean it also but you seldom see the company change it with no
charge do you now?...
-Gord.
A highly faulty analogy.
It is indeed not...Christ, where's your reading comprehension?
Who do you suppose paid/subsidized the cost of
repairing those few "gelled" engines? There is no such thing as
"free"
except in the mind of a socialist. There is only cost shifting.
Obfuscation, pure and simple...this has nothing to do with the
subject at hand...please pay attention...
Don't go trying to change the subject here...you stated that
there was 'nothing faulty about the separator' and I maintain
that there is...simple, deal with it...
-Gord.
You have your opinion rooted in ignorance. I have a couple of Toyota
TSBs
on the subject and practical experience which you lack. Deal with it.
You're making a horse's arse of yourself by refusing to admit a
simple error...smarten up for chrissake...pretty bad character
flaw you have there mister...does not look good on you at all.
--
-Gord.
There is no error. There is only poor ol Gord living in denial.
*I'm* in denial?!?...An absolutely *amazing* assessment!...
--
-Gord.
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Echoing is a form of admitting defeat.
I'll let you have the last word.
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Philip
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Fri Dec 09, 2005 2:59 am Post subject:
Re: 2000 Avalon - SLUDGE Story |
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"Gord Beaman" <gord@islandtelecom.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | "Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote:
"Gord Beaman" <gord@islandtelecom.com> wrote in message
news:s2rcp1pcl8io6rnbm5so4q6c9uh204tvp2@4ax.com...
"Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote:
I've have addressed and accurately shown your propensity to infer what
is
not stated is quite intact. You owe me an apology ... a payment I have
no
expectation of receiving. :^P
In a pig's arse philip, in a pig's arse...you really don't care
what people think of you do you?...poor under endowed little
guy...
--
-Gord.
"People"? How many people are still resident inside your head?
Since this is at least the 2nd personal barb you've hurled, I've won on
the
facts.
Personal barbs?...I'm a holy terror aren't I?...mothers cover
their kiddies ears while in my presence...
Facts?...judging by your recent use of them you wouldn't
recognize a fact if one reared up and bit you on the arse...
--
-Gord.
(use gordon in email)
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Facts Gord ... something you are in no position to judge.
I'll let you have the last word.
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FanJet
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Fri Dec 09, 2005 9:19 am Post subject:
Re: 2000 Avalon - SLUDGE Story |
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larry moe 'n curly wrote:
| Quote: | FanJet wrote:
larry moe 'n curly wrote:
I asked Ford and Chrysler how they rated their dealers and which
were the highest-rated ones in my area, but both refused to provide
any information, but I know that one 5-star Chrysler dealer, Bill
Luke, is pretty bad at diagnosing problems, even if they replace
every part in the vehicle. Also ABC Nissan has bribed customers
for perfect scores by giving them free oil changes.
And, of course, there are many who could name several Toyota
dealerships with the same flaws. Point?
Their cars are less likely to break down, and it seems that the
company isn't as stingy about reimbursing its dealers for warranty
work, at least compared to Ford.
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The people who've had good experiences with Ford and crappy experiences at
Toyota dealerships wouldn't agree. |
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Brent Secombe
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Sat Dec 10, 2005 3:07 am Post subject:
Re: 2000 Avalon - SLUDGE Story |
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In article <34502$4399b39a$44a4a10d$14962@msgid.meganewsservers.com>,
Ray O <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOT.com> wrote:
| Quote: | "larry moe 'n curly" <larrymoencurly@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:1134123760.899787.146410@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
FanJet wrote:
larry moe 'n curly wrote:
And, of course, there are many who could name several Toyota
dealerships with the same flaws. Point?
Their cars are less likely to break down, and it seems that the
company isn't as stingy about reimbursing its dealers for warranty
work, at least compared to Ford.
The people who've had good experiences with Ford and crappy experiences
at
Toyota dealerships wouldn't agree.
I'm sure there are some people whose Yugos have been perfect and their
Hondas have been lemons, but the odds favor the Honda owners.
According to the Yugo dealers I visited, there was no such thing as a
perfect Yugo - 100% came back for warranty repairs. Anyone out there have a
perfect Yugo?
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NPR's Car Guys (Click & Clack, the Tappet Brothers, a.k.a. Tom & Ray
Magliozzi) were asked, "What is the most reliable automobile
transportation I can get for $30,000?" Their answer: "A sixpack of
Yugos"
I doubt this advances the discussion of sludge in an Avalon, but it was
a great moment in radio. :-)
Brent |
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larry moe 'n curly
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Sat Dec 10, 2005 3:59 am Post subject:
Re: 2000 Avalon - SLUDGE Story |
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FanJet wrote:
| Quote: | larry moe 'n curly wrote:
Scott in Florida wrote:
why wasn't the speedo one of the first things they checked?
Cause it was a Ford ? ;-)
What made you think that your response was worth posting? Was it the
same thought process that makes you post all those off-topic messages?
;)
It's the 'RUSH' way of doing things and is slowly and naturally being taken
care of by natural selection.
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Are you saying that he's a fat drug addict who's pretending not to be
gay? ;) |
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Mike Hunter
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Sat Dec 10, 2005 5:35 am Post subject:
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Click & Clack, they are the automotive experts that wrote a whole article
advising some lady that the front end noise on her two wheel drive Ford
Aerostar was most assuredly was caused by a failing CV joint. Click said it
might be a strut, but upon reflection with brother Clack, he agreed that
with 159K on the clock it was more likely the CV joint. They advised her to
stop driving the vehicle until she had it repaired, lest she kill her
family. They never did print a retraction. LOL
mike hunt
"Brent Secombe" <bsecombover@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:091220051607511705%bsecombover@yahoo.co.uk...
| Quote: | In article <34502$4399b39a$44a4a10d$14962@msgid.meganewsservers.com>,
Ray O <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOT.com> wrote:
"larry moe 'n curly" <larrymoencurly@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:1134123760.899787.146410@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
FanJet wrote:
larry moe 'n curly wrote:
And, of course, there are many who could name several Toyota
dealerships with the same flaws. Point?
Their cars are less likely to break down, and it seems that the
company isn't as stingy about reimbursing its dealers for warranty
work, at least compared to Ford.
The people who've had good experiences with Ford and crappy
experiences
at
Toyota dealerships wouldn't agree.
I'm sure there are some people whose Yugos have been perfect and their
Hondas have been lemons, but the odds favor the Honda owners.
According to the Yugo dealers I visited, there was no such thing as a
perfect Yugo - 100% came back for warranty repairs. Anyone out there
have a
perfect Yugo?
NPR's Car Guys (Click & Clack, the Tappet Brothers, a.k.a. Tom & Ray
Magliozzi) were asked, "What is the most reliable automobile
transportation I can get for $30,000?" Their answer: "A sixpack of
Yugos"
I doubt this advances the discussion of sludge in an Avalon, but it was
a great moment in radio. :-)
Brent |
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FanJet
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Sat Dec 10, 2005 11:37 am Post subject:
Re: 2000 Avalon - SLUDGE Story |
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Scott in Florida wrote:
| Quote: | On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 23:37:59 -0500, "FanJet" <FanJet27@hotmail.com
wrote:
larry moe 'n curly wrote:
FanJet wrote:
larry moe 'n curly wrote:
I asked Ford and Chrysler how they rated their dealers and which
were the highest-rated ones in my area, but both refused to
provide any information, but I know that one 5-star Chrysler
dealer, Bill Luke, is pretty bad at diagnosing problems, even if
they replace every part in the vehicle. Also ABC Nissan has
bribed customers for perfect scores by giving them free oil
changes.
And, of course, there are many who could name several Toyota
dealerships with the same flaws. Point?
Their cars are less likely to break down, and it seems that the
company isn't as stingy about reimbursing its dealers for warranty
work, at least compared to Ford.
The people who've had good experiences with Ford and crappy
experiences at Toyota dealerships wouldn't agree.
I would venture that there are a hell of a lot more people that have
had crappy experiences with Ford than Toyota....
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Of course you would but what does that mean?? |
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