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Pete
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 7:49 pm    Post subject: How does the car communicate with the dealer? Reply with quote

In the newer BMWs, in the US at least, the car sends out info to the dealer
that it is due for service or some malfunction requires it to be serviced.
Does anyone know what technology is used to transmit this info? Is it an
SMS sent out through a cell phone built in the car?

Thanks,

Pete

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Dodgy
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 12:12 am    Post subject: Re: How does the car communicate with the dealer? Reply with quote

On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 08:49:55 -0500, "Pete" <escape2music@hotmail.com>
waffled on about something:

Quote:
In the newer BMWs, in the US at least, the car sends out info to the dealer
that it is due for service or some malfunction requires it to be serviced.
Does anyone know what technology is used to transmit this info? Is it an
SMS sent out through a cell phone built in the car?

Thanks,

Pete

I would say that's a safe guess... Although I would think they would
be more likely to use a GPRS/EDGE data stream from the cellular system
than an SMS which is restricted in message size.

Dodgy.
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Jeff Strickland
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Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 12:37 am    Post subject: Re: How does the car communicate with the dealer? Reply with quote

It requires the bluetooth option, then it uses your cell phone to send a
text message.




"Pete" <escape2music@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
In the newer BMWs, in the US at least, the car sends out info to the
dealer that it is due for service or some malfunction requires it to be
serviced. Does anyone know what technology is used to transmit this info?
Is it an SMS sent out through a cell phone built in the car?

Thanks,

Pete




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Pete
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Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 12:50 am    Post subject: Re: How does the car communicate with the dealer? Reply with quote

"Jeff Strickland" wrote
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It requires the bluetooth option, then it uses your cell phone to send
a text message.

So if you don't have a cell phone, the deal is off? :)

Pete
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Jeff Strickland
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Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 2:34 am    Post subject: Re: How does the car communicate with the dealer? Reply with quote

If you don't have bluetooth and a bluetooth cell phone, the option won't
work.

Without bluetooth, the car would need it's own phone to make the occasional
call to report service needs, and this would suck up all of the phone
numbers available in very short order. But, if you had the bluetooth option
and a suitable cell phone, then there's no reason the car couldn't talk to
your phone while you weren't using it, and report its status to the
dealership for you. If you don't have the bluetooth option, then the car
can't talk to the phone, and the feature -- calling for service -- won't be
available.




"Pete" <escape2music@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Jeff Strickland" wrote
It requires the bluetooth option, then it uses your cell phone to send a
text message.

So if you don't have a cell phone, the deal is off? :)

Pete
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Blake Dodson
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Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 5:04 am    Post subject: Re: How does the car communicate with the dealer? Reply with quote

It communicates by opening your wallet and extracting the proper amount
for this months Cash Dialysis Infusion.

;-)
B.D.
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Malt_Hound
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 10:05 pm    Post subject: Re: How does the car communicate with the dealer? Reply with quote

Pete wrote:
Quote:

"Jeff Strickland" wrote

It requires the bluetooth option, then it uses your cell phone to send
a text message.


So if you don't have a cell phone, the deal is off? :)

Pete


I wonder, how many people buying brand new BMWs don't have cell phones?


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I have neither (intentionally).
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Pete
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 10:55 pm    Post subject: Re: How does the car communicate with the dealer? Reply with quote

"Malt_Hound" wrote
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I wonder, how many people buying brand new BMWs don't have cell phones?

Well, I was thinking more along the lines... who would want their car to be
using their cell phone? Who knows what kind of information that system
actually transfers to BMW? I see it as an infringment on my privacy, but
then again, it's an optional feature from what I understand, so it only
communicates if you agree to it.

Cheers,

Pete
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Malt_Hound
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 11:33 pm    Post subject: Re: How does the car communicate with the dealer? Reply with quote

Pete wrote:
Quote:
"Malt_Hound" wrote

I wonder, how many people buying brand new BMWs don't have cell phones?


Well, I was thinking more along the lines... who would want their car to be
using their cell phone? Who knows what kind of information that system
actually transfers to BMW? I see it as an infringment on my privacy, but
then again, it's an optional feature from what I understand, so it only
communicates if you agree to it.

Agreed. In fact, BMW USA even makes light of this in a recent
advertisement. The guy is driving along listening to some children's
music and his cell phone rings. It is the BMW service advisor (female)
asking if he'd like to make an appointment to have his oil changed.
When asked how she knew it needed that, she says the car told her. He
asks in a panic what else the car told her (fearing she would know he
listens to kiddie music) and she says, "that's all".

But I'll bet it would "phone home" if he misses a shift and over-revs
it...

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Pete
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 11:56 pm    Post subject: Re: How does the car communicate with the dealer? Reply with quote

"Malt_Hound" wrote
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Agreed. In fact, BMW USA even makes light of this in a recent
advertisement.

Yeah, I did see that commercial. :)


Quote:
But I'll bet it would "phone home" if he misses a shift and over-revs
it...

Yup. The thing is, it's really just about how quickly this info reaches
your dealer: immediately (via cell phone), or later, during your next
service visit (when they hook up a car to the computer and read all fault
codes stored in the ECU memory). But if you have your own communication
tool, you could possibly erase unwanted data before going in for service.
Anyway, that's a whole other story... :)

Cheers,

Pete
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Jeff Strickland
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Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 5:22 am    Post subject: Re: How does the car communicate with the dealer? Reply with quote

"Pete" <escape2music@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Malt_Hound" wrote

I wonder, how many people buying brand new BMWs don't have cell phones?

Well, I was thinking more along the lines... who would want their car to
be using their cell phone? Who knows what kind of information that system
actually transfers to BMW? I see it as an infringment on my privacy, but
then again, it's an optional feature from what I understand, so it only
communicates if you agree to it.


Then don't get the option.

Most people like the idea that the car will send a text message that it
needs attention. Big brother is watching you, so you better look over your
shoulder ...
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