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Harry Face
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Mon Nov 08, 2004 12:18 pm Post subject:
Chicago Tribune 2005 GTO article. |
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Just a small mention in Sundays Chicago Tribune's Auto section, page 3.
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This SEMA show in Vegas,..yadda yadda yadda, Pontiac provided a peek at
the 2005 GTO coming out in December with a 6 Litre 400 HP V-8 replacing
the 5.7 Litre 350 HP V-8. While the GTO will offer optional hood scoops
for a sportier look, the SEMA car also added front & rear facia
extensions, spoiler and rocker panel extensions from GM Parts and
Service Division to show how buyers can dress it up even more.
Pontiac then showed a GTO with a new 6.4 Litre, 575 HP V-8 with Ram Air
induction, which suggests that the rumors are true that Pontiac is
developing an even higher output GTO. Its supposed to be dubbed the
Judge, a name used on the highest output GTO in the 60's & 70's.
But, insiders insist, don't expect a Judge for a couple of years until
Pontiac increases GTO sales volume. For 04, its first year on the
market, GTO sold about 9000 units, or roughly half the target. For 05,
Pontiac says the 400 HP V-8 should boost sales to 12,000 to 18,000
GTO's.
End of article.
HF
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noname
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Mon Nov 08, 2004 7:26 pm Post subject:
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I was planned and ready to purchase a GTO for the wife.
Until I went to the dealer and was expected to pay sticker price.
This was a year ago.
I ended up getting her an 04 GP instead fully loaded with all the bells and
whistles.
Now they can't sell all they have built and the price is negotiable.
"Harry Face" <harryface@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:6188-418F1DDB-130@storefull-3115.bay.webtv.net...
| Quote: | Just a small mention in Sundays Chicago Tribune's Auto section, page 3.
(snip )
This SEMA show in Vegas,..yadda yadda yadda, Pontiac provided a peek at
the 2005 GTO coming out in December with a 6 Litre 400 HP V-8 replacing
the 5.7 Litre 350 HP V-8. While the GTO will offer optional hood scoops
for a sportier look, the SEMA car also added front & rear facia
extensions, spoiler and rocker panel extensions from GM Parts and
Service Division to show how buyers can dress it up even more.
Pontiac then showed a GTO with a new 6.4 Litre, 575 HP V-8 with Ram Air
induction, which suggests that the rumors are true that Pontiac is
developing an even higher output GTO. Its supposed to be dubbed the
Judge, a name used on the highest output GTO in the 60's & 70's.
But, insiders insist, don't expect a Judge for a couple of years until
Pontiac increases GTO sales volume. For 04, its first year on the
market, GTO sold about 9000 units, or roughly half the target. For 05,
Pontiac says the 400 HP V-8 should boost sales to 12,000 to 18,000
GTO's.
End of article.
HF
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Ray
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Tue Nov 09, 2004 4:39 am Post subject:
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Harry Face wrote:
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But, insiders insist, don't expect a Judge for a couple of years until
Pontiac increases GTO sales volume. For 04, its first year on the
market, GTO sold about 9000 units, or roughly half the target. For 05,
Pontiac says the 400 HP V-8 should boost sales to 12,000 to 18,000
GTO's.
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well, they woulda sold 9001 if they would allow Canadians to own them.
but no.... stupid GM. Stupid Transport Canada. ;)
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GRL
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Tue Nov 09, 2004 5:28 am Post subject:
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It doesn't need more power. It does not need (tasteless) fake hood scoops.
It needs some styling, a dead pedal, and a trunk.
George Litwinski
"Harry Face" <harryface@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:6188-418F1DDB-130@storefull-3115.bay.webtv.net...
| Quote: | Just a small mention in Sundays Chicago Tribune's Auto section, page 3.
(snip )
This SEMA show in Vegas,..yadda yadda yadda, Pontiac provided a peek at
the 2005 GTO coming out in December with a 6 Litre 400 HP V-8 replacing
the 5.7 Litre 350 HP V-8. While the GTO will offer optional hood scoops
for a sportier look, the SEMA car also added front & rear facia
extensions, spoiler and rocker panel extensions from GM Parts and
Service Division to show how buyers can dress it up even more.
Pontiac then showed a GTO with a new 6.4 Litre, 575 HP V-8 with Ram Air
induction, which suggests that the rumors are true that Pontiac is
developing an even higher output GTO. Its supposed to be dubbed the
Judge, a name used on the highest output GTO in the 60's & 70's.
But, insiders insist, don't expect a Judge for a couple of years until
Pontiac increases GTO sales volume. For 04, its first year on the
market, GTO sold about 9000 units, or roughly half the target. For 05,
Pontiac says the 400 HP V-8 should boost sales to 12,000 to 18,000
GTO's.
End of article.
HF
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James C. Reeves
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Tue Nov 09, 2004 6:19 am Post subject:
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"GRL" <GLitwinski@CHARTERMI.NET> wrote in message
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| It doesn't need more power.
Probably true...but can't hurt. ;-) But I agree that power is an area that
really doesn't need any more attention at the moment. Power isn't the problem.
| It does not need (tasteless) fake hood scoops.
I strongly disagree...the scoop *IS* signature GTO. It *must* have the scoop
just like the Mustang has the grille emblem and the inset "C" styling along the
side panels. It simply isn't a GTO without the scoop.
| It needs some styling,
Yes, "legacy" styling...design styling elements that says "I am a GTO" before
even seeing the badge. Look at the Mustang...you *know* it's a Mustang at
first glance. What do you see with the GTO? All you know is that it is a
Pontiac. Not nearly good enough!
| a dead pedal,
???
| and a trunk.
Nope..GTO owners won't care about a trunk...they will want quick quarter times.
Nix that one...just forget it. It isn't a car that will be used very often for
vacation trips.
You missed some BIG ones. GM needs to get the price down in line with the
Mustang...which means shave off about $8K...or they aren't going to sell very
well no matter what they do. And, my pet peeve...get rid of the stupid-shit
useless annoying DRLs!!! The Mustang doesn't have them...the GTO shouldn't
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« Paul »
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Tue Nov 09, 2004 7:14 am Post subject:
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GRL wrote:
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It doesn't need more power. It does not need (tasteless) fake hood scoops.
It needs some styling, a dead pedal, and a trunk.
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GM likes to add lots of plastic parts: side panels, scoops, wheel
well tops. It will end up looking exactly like a Grand Am. |
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GMdude
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Sat Nov 13, 2004 5:42 am Post subject:
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Folks,
I think the GTO name has been done some wrong. The car that Pontiac
calls GTO, is a repackaged Monaro.
This reminds me of the days that you would put a V-8 in a Chevy Vega.
Sure it's fast, but it is not a GTO. Many manufactures are bringing back the
retro-look. It's for a good reason,... the older bodies had more
style/curves. They were not aerodynamic, but they went fast in a straight
line, and looked pretty cool parked at a joint.
The GTO was a muscle-car. Something that signified American freedom, and
the love of a cool, fast car. A re-packaged Monaro, in no way, could come
close to being it's replacement.
For Pete's sake, the thing looks like a rice-grinder, or Euro-car. No
GTO here!
Today's youths have no concept of the GTO. Perhaps that's why they are
difficult to purchase? I don't want one,.. it's not a GTO. But,.. they are
going like hot-cakes.
A fool and his money, are soon parted.
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James C. Reeves
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Sat Nov 13, 2004 9:37 am Post subject:
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"GMdude" <me@there.com> wrote in message
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| A fool and his money, are soon parted.
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They must have picked up the GTO sales recently then. When I checked a few
months back the Aztek (of all things) was selling at twice the rate the GTO
was...and that is not saying much! |
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