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Mike Hunter
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Mon Nov 21, 2005 6:27 am Post subject:
Second toughts amoung some Pruis owners? |
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What is this, the king has no clothes???
| Quote: | The Fuel savings from owning a Prius are soon overshadowed by the
costs involved in maintenance: alignments up to twice or more a year,
replacing "special" tires that cost $150 each up to every 7,000 miles,
power and fuel economy "mystery" drops, software crashes that leave
you dead on the 65mph freeway. Toyota needs a big boot up
their rear for this lemon. Let us all sue the bastards for allowing
this known defect to continue to roll.
http://www.tire.com/survey/SurveyCommentsMMY.jsp
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/automotive/firestone_prius.html
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/automotive/toyota_prius_tires.html
Janet of Sarasota FL (11/24/04):
After less than two years and 16,000 miles my front tires are falling
apart on my 2002 Toyota Prius and back tires practically threadbare.
Neither the car dealer nor the Bridgestone dealer is willing to give
any compensation for tire replacement. I have photos of the tires and
had my husband not looked at them recently I could have had a major
accident on I-75 from a blowout. The manufacturer and Toyota both knew
about this problem and they now use different tires on the 2004 Prius.
It is costing me over $400 to replace the tires and have car aligned
so the savings in the gasoline was moot. They should have had a recall
on them before someone is maimed or killed.
Howard of Inver Grove Heights MN (11/12/04):
I have a 2002 Toyota Prius. It came with Bridgestone 175/65-14
Protenza tires. At about 24,000 miles the right front blew out at
highway speed. I was able to pull to the side of the road without
incident and change the tire. Upon examination I discovered that the
sidewall at its junction with the tread had separated with about a 4"
tear. The tire was evenly worn. I purchased a replacement tire from
Bridgestone but they would give only a $10 discount on a new tire.
Several weeks later I noticed that a tire appeared to be
underinflated. Upon examination I discovered that this tire had the
same defect as the one stated above but the tear was only about 1
inch. I replaced this tire also. The Prius went in for scheduled
maintenance about a week later and they found yet another tire with
the same defect. (I cannot totally fault the manufacture here as this
tire did show a wear pattern indicative of underinflation) I have
replaced all tires with another brand. I will neither buy new tires
nor purchase a new vehicle with Bridgestone/Firestone tires on it.
Andrea of Plano TX (7/8/03):
My complaints are numerous (2001 Toyota Prius):
1. Front end alignment -- cause unknown. Several alignments, still
doesn't track well.
2. Gas tank problems -- went from 45.0mg to 29.5 mpg - took several
trips to get the problem "solved" -- not sure that it is totally
solved. Consumption screen is screwy and so is the gas gauge. Also
told car loses gas mileage as they get older -- car was only a year or
so old and a Prius doesn't use gas when stopped.
3. Rack and pinion steering -- several trips to service before they
agreed there's a problem and fixed it.
4. 3rd set of tires -- 18,000, 36,000 and about 45,000 miles
5. Accelerator assembly quit in rush hour traffic -- fixed, took two
trips. There's still a noticeable drop in power, almost daily.
Most problems "fixed" but I don't trust this car nor do I trust Toyota
The second trip for the accelerator I was told there was nothing wrong
with the car, but the "sticky" place disappeared after second trip. They
didn't want to admit they were wrong.
mike |
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Brent Secombe
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Mon Nov 21, 2005 9:18 am Post subject:
Re: Second toughts amoung some Pruis owners? |
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In article <P36dna4EUa0ZiRzeUSdV9g@ptd.net>, Mike Hunter
<mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
| Quote: | What is this, the king has no clothes???
The Fuel savings from owning a Prius are soon overshadowed by the
costs involved in maintenance: alignments up to twice or more a year,
replacing "special" tires that cost $150 each up to every 7,000 miles,
power and fuel economy "mystery" drops, software crashes that leave
you dead on the 65mph freeway. Toyota needs a big boot up
their rear for this lemon. Let us all sue the bastards for allowing
this known defect to continue to roll.
http://www.tire.com/survey/SurveyCommentsMMY.jsp
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/automotive/firestone_prius.html
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/automotive/toyota_prius_tires.html
Janet of Sarasota FL (11/24/04):
After less than two years and 16,000 miles my front tires are falling
apart on my 2002 Toyota Prius and back tires practically threadbare.
Neither the car dealer nor the Bridgestone dealer is willing to give
any compensation for tire replacement. I have photos of the tires and
had my husband not looked at them recently I could have had a major
accident on I-75 from a blowout. The manufacturer and Toyota both knew
about this problem and they now use different tires on the 2004 Prius.
It is costing me over $400 to replace the tires and have car aligned
so the savings in the gasoline was moot. They should have had a recall
on them before someone is maimed or killed.
Howard of Inver Grove Heights MN (11/12/04):
I have a 2002 Toyota Prius. It came with Bridgestone 175/65-14
Protenza tires. At about 24,000 miles the right front blew out at
highway speed. I was able to pull to the side of the road without
incident and change the tire. Upon examination I discovered that the
sidewall at its junction with the tread had separated with about a 4"
tear. The tire was evenly worn. I purchased a replacement tire from
Bridgestone but they would give only a $10 discount on a new tire.
Several weeks later I noticed that a tire appeared to be
underinflated. Upon examination I discovered that this tire had the
same defect as the one stated above but the tear was only about 1
inch. I replaced this tire also. The Prius went in for scheduled
maintenance about a week later and they found yet another tire with
the same defect. (I cannot totally fault the manufacture here as this
tire did show a wear pattern indicative of underinflation) I have
replaced all tires with another brand. I will neither buy new tires
nor purchase a new vehicle with Bridgestone/Firestone tires on it.
Andrea of Plano TX (7/8/03):
My complaints are numerous (2001 Toyota Prius):
1. Front end alignment -- cause unknown. Several alignments, still
doesn't track well.
2. Gas tank problems -- went from 45.0mg to 29.5 mpg - took several
trips to get the problem "solved" -- not sure that it is totally
solved. Consumption screen is screwy and so is the gas gauge. Also
told car loses gas mileage as they get older -- car was only a year or
so old and a Prius doesn't use gas when stopped.
3. Rack and pinion steering -- several trips to service before they
agreed there's a problem and fixed it.
4. 3rd set of tires -- 18,000, 36,000 and about 45,000 miles
5. Accelerator assembly quit in rush hour traffic -- fixed, took two
trips. There's still a noticeable drop in power, almost daily.
Most problems "fixed" but I don't trust this car nor do I trust Toyota
The second trip for the accelerator I was told there was nothing wrong
with the car, but the "sticky" place disappeared after second trip. They
didn't want to admit they were wrong.
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I'm not eligible to comment about what lies ahead for my '05 Prius and
me. I can only report total satisfaction in my first 3500 miles.
I'm sincerely sorry to learn of problems with anyone's vehicle. I've
had my own successes and failures. My '59 & '62 Volvos were excellent,
my '59 Mercedes was a lemon, my first-year Civic was a disaster, my '84
Olds was solid, my Chevy Greenbriar, El Camino, Chevette and van were
troublesome, my '94 Continental betrayed me, my VW Squareback was a
joy, my '98 Avalon is great; and I have fond memories of my '38
Chrylser, my '58 TR3 and my '89 Scorpio. As I say, ups and downs -- and
probably none of them wholly reflective of others' experiences.
I remain calm in the face of concerns over the behavior of the pre-2004
Prius. There was quite a change for the 2nd generation.
My Prius came equipped with Goodyear tires, so the failure of
Bridgestones leaves my palms dry.
We're an all-Toyota family now, and our experiences will determine
whether we remain such -- just as should be true of every individual.
I hope you'll understand why your posting doesn't disturb me.
Brent |
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B. Peg
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Mon Nov 21, 2005 9:18 am Post subject:
Re: Second toughts amoung some Pruis owners? |
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| Quote: | "Brent Secombe" wrote:
I remain calm in the face of concerns over the behavior of the pre-2004
Prius. There was quite a change for the 2nd generation.
My Prius came equipped with Goodyear tires, so the failure of
Bridgestones leaves my palms dry.
We're an all-Toyota family now, and our experiences will determine
whether we remain such -- just as should be true of every individual.
I hope you'll understand why your posting doesn't disturb me.
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Same here. As long as it's reasonably high in mpg, then I'm a happy camper.
I bought it for the tech goodies it has, the mpg boost was a nice sideline
as well as the warranty and tax savings and HOV lane usage and hatchback and
built-in Bluetooth and GPS and Smart Key and not looking at the gas guage
when passing a station and ample headroom and shiftless transmission
and.....
Personally, I wish my Goodyear tires would wear out at 10,000 miles so I
could get a quieter road tire on the the already quiet car. Since my
motorcycles tires cost far more than a car tire and they only last 3000
miles, it doesn't bother me at all if they die at 10,000 miles. New soft
fresh tires are so much better and quieter than some year-old hardened
rubber tire.
Oh, I had a Mercury once. Want to hear the horror stories behind that one?
While a pile that vehicle was, and Ford silently did away with "You pay for
it once to be fixed, and then never again" warranty that appeared in the
front of their owner's manual.
Nice troll though.....
B~
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